Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3

[SixthStreet]

I’d rather give Korkmaz a reintegration chance than sign Oubre.

[76ciology]

My flavor of the week is Lavine. I think a Lavine-Maxey backcourt is very potent for Nurse system. And defensively, it will work if you have Reed or Bamba playing with Biid. You also won’t be in so much bid war with Lavine than Dame. Lavine is also just 28 years old. He played 77 games last season and averaged 60TS% in the last two seasons.

[Kova]

So Harden apparently now expected to stay with the Sixers.. Surprise, surprise! All along, Morey was working on - nothing.
We're running it back and saving cap space for the next summer. While trying to increase the value of the new kids. Can't say I dislike it considering the lack of assets this year.

[76ciology]

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Bamba playing with another big, interior passing

[youngcrev]

Spoiler:

That worked so well for the Sixers in the playoffs...then the Celtics stopped guarding Tucker (and Tucker shot nearly 40% from 3 last year). You can't play 5 on 4 on offense.

That’s the point. Tucker doesn’t space the floor anyway so might as well put in a guy who is more athletic, a better rebounder, and better shot blocker instead.

Just what I was going to say. The Sixers played 4 on 5 on offense all season long with Tucker. I hated most of those minutes. Tucker wouldn't take shots unless he was wide open, and even then sometimes. Reed makes scoring moves, both with his back to the basket and facing up. There's just no comparison.

I don't see the Millsap comparison whatsoever. Different builds, different skill sets. You're talking a multi-time all star with legit ball skills. BBall is a rim runner/offensive rebounder. BBall also has over 2 inches on him.

I watched Millsap a lot as a youngster. You really don't see any similarities with rookie Millsap and the limited-minutes Reed that we've seen? Remember, Millsap didn't start shooting 3s with any regularity until well into his playing days. And the fact that Reed's taller (with them both being guys sometimes cast as undersized 5s) only bodes well for Bball Paul.

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Looks a lot more explosive than BBall in those clips. But nah, didn't watch a ton of him back then. That was on those Okur/Boozer squads, right? Either way, good look for reminding of the Warrior remix! Used to love that song and completely forgot about it. Now I've gotta go listen to Welcome to D Block.

[Ben]

Spoiler:

That’s the point. Tucker doesn’t space the floor anyway so might as well put in a guy who is more athletic, a better rebounder, and better shot blocker instead.

Just what I was going to say. The Sixers played 4 on 5 on offense all season long with Tucker. I hated most of those minutes. Tucker wouldn't take shots unless he was wide open, and even then sometimes. Reed makes scoring moves, both with his back to the basket and facing up. There's just no comparison.

I don't see the Millsap comparison whatsoever. Different builds, different skill sets. You're talking a multi-time all star with legit ball skills. BBall is a rim runner/offensive rebounder. BBall also has over 2 inches on him.

I watched Millsap a lot as a youngster. You really don't see any similarities with rookie Millsap and the limited-minutes Reed that we've seen? Remember, Millsap didn't start shooting 3s with any regularity until well into his playing days. And the fact that Reed's taller (with them both being guys sometimes cast as undersized 5s) only bodes well for Bball Paul.

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Looks a lot more explosive than BBall in those clips. But nah, didn't watch a ton of him back then. That was on those Okur/Boozer squads, right? Either way, good look for reminding of the Warrior remix! Used to love that song and completely forgot about it. Now I've gotta go listen to Welcome to D Block.

Yup, that was the team. And a very young Deron Williams and AK47. Looking at the talent they had, it's kind of amazing they didn't go further, although I guess D-Will hadn't yet rounded into all-star form. Anyway, good call on Welcome to D Block. I'll revisit that one, too.

[Snotbubbles]

That worked so well for the Sixers in the playoffs...then the Celtics stopped guarding Tucker (and Tucker shot nearly 40% from 3 last year). You can't play 5 on 4 on offense.

That’s the point. Tucker doesn’t space the floor anyway so might as well put in a guy who is more athletic, a better rebounder, and better shot blocker instead.

Just what I was going to say. The Sixers played 4 on 5 on offense all season long with Tucker. I hated most of those minutes. Tucker wouldn't take shots unless he was wide open, and even then sometimes. Reed makes scoring moves, both with his back to the basket and facing up. There's just no comparison.

What you're proposing is the definition of insanity. It doesn't work. It didn't work with Ben Simmons. It didn't work with Tucker. It won't work with Reed.

[Mik317]

I like Siakam. Hell.. im even finding trades to get him. But I dont think we’ go after him this season.

I think Nurse is gonna let Embiid play that Siakam role. He has Siakam operating at the elbow alot too.

Then like Siakam, who’s paired at the frontcourt with OG or Boucher or Thad or Achiuwa. I think we will see more variations with the pairing with Reed or Bamba or Tucker. Then maybe even something weird like Tobias at the 3 with Biid and Bamba.

Nurse (and Bud) seem to like to structure their rotations where they run line-ups that can put their star player (milsap or giannis or siakam) into weird positions that creates a lot of mismatches.

Im assuming in Nurse interview when he was asked why Sixers struggled against the Celts, his answer was because we only know how to play Biid one way. Which is a 4 and a half out offense. Its effective but play it in a 7 game series, eventually teams get used to it.

P.S. Nurse was witnessed a lot of Biid playing 4 and defending Siakam in 2019

Yeah I think thats a start

I think we often allowed the Celtics to dictate matchups and allowed them to always make sure Al was tormenting Biid.

Biid still can't be a hoe tho

[Stanford]

What you're proposing is the definition of insanity. It doesn't work. It didn't work with Ben Simmons. It didn't work with Tucker. It won't work with Reed.

I believe Reed would shoot if Nurse told him too. The evidence is there in the GLeague

[Snotbubbles]

What you're proposing is the definition of insanity. It doesn't work. It didn't work with Ben Simmons. It didn't work with Tucker. It won't work with Reed.

I believe Reed would shoot if Nurse told him too. The evidence is there in the GLeague

Tucker shot 2 3s a game in the regular season and made 39.3% of them.

In the playoffs he shot 3.6 3s a game and made 35% of them.

That wasn't good enough.

What is your expectation for Reed? You think he's going to shot 4 or 5 3s a game at a 40%+ clip? I find it hard to believe that he could match his G-League numbers in the NBA. The NBA level game is much harder. It's a different level of intensity, better defenders, more pressure...

If you're the opposing coach, Paul Reed jacking up 3s is what you want. It's just putting lipstick on a pig.

[Arsenal]

What you're proposing is the definition of insanity. It doesn't work. It didn't work with Ben Simmons. It didn't work with Tucker. It won't work with Reed.

I believe Reed would shoot if Nurse told him too. The evidence is there in the GLeague

Tucker shot 2 3s a game in the regular season and made 39.3% of them.

In the playoffs he shot 3.6 3s a game and made 35% of them.

That wasn't good enough.

What is your expectation for Reed? You think he's going to shot 4 or 5 3s a game at a 40%+ clip? I find it hard to believe that he could match his G-League numbers in the NBA. The NBA level game is much harder. It's a different level of intensity, better defenders, more pressure...

If you're the opposing coach, Paul Reed jacking up 3s is what you want. It's just putting lipstick on a pig.

Considering Tucker gives no-shot blocking, not much on the boards, and is useless in the dunker spot, why not try something different?

Besides playoffs are all about adjustments to different situations. It's not like the Celtics run double-big all the time. But it needs to be a tool in the toolbox.

[Jailblazers7]

Non-shooters become a bigger issue when your offense is just a stagnant PnR with no off ball movement. A creative coach will find ways to use Reed as a screener in double big lineups so that’s he not just awkwardly standing in the corner all game like we used PJ.

[the_process]

I think the bench thing is being a bit overblown. Melton, Tucker or Reed, and Bamba is league average or better. We need another top-9 rotation player for sure though.

No it's not. And they need wings, for the love of God.

[Jailblazers7]

My flavor of the week is Lavine. I think a Lavine-Maxey backcourt is very potent for Nurse system. And defensively, it will work if you have Reed or Bamba playing with Biid. You also won’t be in so much bid war with Lavine than Dame. Lavine is also just 28 years old. He played 77 games last season and averaged 60TS% in the last two seasons.

I’ve definitely come around on Lavine as a fit with Maxey/Embiid. My only real concern with him at this point is his injury history & longevity left in his knees. I’m hoping that by end of summer we figure out a 3 team trade with LAC & CHI to net Lavine for Harden. Would love if we could ship out PJ too in exchange for a league avg level wing.

[Arsenal]

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[sixers hoops]

If nothing else, if the Sixers run it back with the same starting lineup, if they don't get any farther in the playoffs, the narrative from a segment of the fan base that Doc Rivers was to blame for all their problems will be dead.

I don’t think Doc was very good, but I don’t think they can win with Harden. In his prime, he wasn’t able to put together good playoff runs. He is now getting worse, and he is probably going to quit on us once the games get difficult. He will face tough defenses in the playoffs, and I don’t know that any coach will be able to win with Harden. If he were a small forward, I would feel more comfortable; however, having the ball in Harden’s hands at the end of close playoff games is a recipe for a loss.

With our roster, so far, arguably worse than last year, we will need to rely on Harden as much as last year. It’s a tough challenge for Nurse.

[Arsenal]

No longer a "demand," now he just "wants to be" traded. Easing the way for a return, one step at a time...

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[Ferry Avenue]

If nothing else, if the Sixers run it back with the same starting lineup, if they don't get any farther in the playoffs, the narrative from a segment of the fan base that Doc Rivers was to blame for all their problems will be dead.

I don’t think Doc was very good, but I don’t think they can win with Harden. In his prime, he wasn’t able to put together good playoff runs. He is now getting worse, and he is probably going to quit on us once the games get difficult. He will face tough defenses in the playoffs, and I don’t know that any coach will be able to win with Harden. If he were a small forward, I would feel more comfortable; however, having the ball in Harden’s hands at the end of close playoff games is a recipe for a loss.

With our roster, so far, arguably worse than last year, we will need to rely on Harden as much as last year. It’s a tough challenge for Nurse.

You can win with Harden, but once again he has to be relegated to a complementary role in which he isn't part of the spearhead of the team. Chris Paul will now be in that role with Golden State -- that's where James Harden needs to be, for physical reasons and emotional ones (i.e., leadership, drive).

Unfortunately it doesn't look like the Sixers can acquire with their current assets the player(s) needed to relegate Harden to that role, and so he should be traded.

[ProcessDoctor]

Randomly came across the short list of MVPs who never won a chip and it gives me hope...

Retired: Barkley, Iverson, Malone, Nash

Active: Embiid, Harden, Rose, Westbrook

Let's get the chip this year boys.

[FireMorey]

I'm incredibly vindictive, if I were GM I'd never trade a player who asked to be traded out of principle. It sets an awful precedent to give that kinda power. We've seen what it's done to the league.