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2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

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What should we do at #3?

Ace Bailey
18
21%
Tre Johnson
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16%
V.J. Edgecombe
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37%
Other
3
3%
Trade
20
23%
 
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Post#1801 » by Iverson Armband » Today 12:26 am

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Iverson Armband wrote:Jovic, Nembhard, Christie or Watson would all look REALLY good on the Sixers right now.


These are decent role players.

Yep, plus cost controlled and taller than 6’2.
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Post#1802 » by Lovetron Joe » Today 12:27 am

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MVP1992 wrote:
Stanford wrote:
We're probably near the bottom of the top half.


In volume or quality?


Quality is near the bottom


Who is at the top?
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Post#1803 » by GutUNC » Today 12:32 am

Arsenal wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Bailey says he's added 15 pounds? Of muscle? Since the combine in May. I'm sorry, but NO FKIN WAY! Not a chance in hell he's done that.


Ace Bailey at a ROCKED UP 220 lbs. is a problem for any opposing D!


Unless they're standing near the rim.
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Post#1804 » by zaz102 » Today 12:33 am

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zaz102 wrote:
the_process wrote:
Seth and Melton were both bad trades IMO. The alternative in both scenarios was preferable.

Let's just hope Morey has a good trade coming tomorrow.
The alternative of David Roddy, Tyler Bey, and Josh Richardson over Melton and Curry? Or the alternative of the Mystery Box?

I can't rate a trade as bad when they got the best players out of everything traded in both deals.

The Curry trade was fine. Melton was not, he was decent here. Trading a FRP for a “decent” role player is not a good idea. Jovic, Nembhard, Christie or Watson would all look REALLY good on the Sixers right now. Hell, atleast 3 of them could probably start for us right now.
How do you know that was the alternative? It could have easily been Roddy, Beauchamp, Blake Wesley, Wendell Moore Jr (the guys picked from 23 - 26 which is right where the Sixers were picking).

I think if you rate a trade for a team that traded a FRP involved and take into account everybody left on the board for that pick, that team loses thr trade a vast majority of the time. That doesn't like the right way to rate trades in my opinion.
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Post#1805 » by Negrodamus » Today 12:34 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:I think the Sixers take Ace #3 and a team (Wizards, Pelicans, Nets) draft who the Sixers want. Basically exactly like the pre-draft trade between the Mavs and Hawks involving Luka and Trae. This way Ace still gets paid and gets to go to his team of choice and the Sixers save a little money, still get a guy they want and more depending on the trade.


This is what I actually think will happen.
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Post#1806 » by eyeatoma » Today 12:35 am

Negrodamus wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:I think the Sixers take Ace #3 and a team (Wizards, Pelicans, Nets) draft who the Sixers want. Basically exactly like the pre-draft trade between the Mavs and Hawks involving Luka and Trae. This way Ace still gets paid and gets to go to his team of choice and the Sixers save a little money, still get a guy they want and more depending on the trade.


This is what I actually think will happen.
Hope this happens.

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Post#1807 » by youngcrev » Today 12:38 am

Negrodamus wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:I think the Sixers take Ace #3 and a team (Wizards, Pelicans, Nets) draft who the Sixers want. Basically exactly like the pre-draft trade between the Mavs and Hawks involving Luka and Trae. This way Ace still gets paid and gets to go to his team of choice and the Sixers save a little money, still get a guy they want and more depending on the trade.


This is what I actually think will happen.


I think they squeeze the Hornets for a pick for VJ and then do this at 4.
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Post#1808 » by MVP1992 » Today 12:40 am

Lovetron Joe wrote:
Who is at the top?


On volume, go to RealGM basketball home page.
Scroll down to team boards.
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Post#1809 » by Black Mage » Today 12:42 am

Mik317 wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Nets just traded for #22 overall in the KP deal. Now they have 8, 19, 22, 26, 27, and 36. Maybe ammo for them to trade up to #3 to get Ace?

This draft falls off hard after like 15 so those picks aren't even that good


I dunno about that, a lot of big boards have guys I'd be thrilled to land for depth and upside going out to 20-25.
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Post#1810 » by Iverson Armband » Today 12:47 am

zaz102 wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:
zaz102 wrote:The alternative of David Roddy, Tyler Bey, and Josh Richardson over Melton and Curry? Or the alternative of the Mystery Box?

I can't rate a trade as bad when they got the best players out of everything traded in both deals.

The Curry trade was fine. Melton was not, he was decent here. Trading a FRP for a “decent” role player is not a good idea. Jovic, Nembhard, Christie or Watson would all look REALLY good on the Sixers right now. Hell, atleast 3 of them could probably start for us right now.
How do you know that was the alternative? It could have easily been Roddy, Beauchamp, Blake Wesley, Wendell Moore Jr (the guys picked from 23 - 26 which is right where the Sixers were picking).

I think if you rate a trade for a team that traded a FRP involved and take into account everybody left on the board for that pick, that team loses thr trade a vast majority of the time. That doesn't like the right way to rate trades in my opinion.

Morey’s track record drafting here is phenomenal. I have no doubt he would have drafted one of those guys mentioned. None.
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Post#1811 » by Black Mage » Today 12:48 am

Iscull wrote:
Stanford wrote:
Iverson Armband wrote:Na, who knows who the Sixers would have drafted


Missed out on TyTy Washington.


Let them move up. We'll take all their picks!


Cautionary tale would be the Celtics where they had like 3 1st round picks in same draft and they blew almost every pick.
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Post#1812 » by Black Mage » Today 12:50 am

davesilver wrote:If the Nets give up a slew of picks to move up to #3, I'd move #8 to OKC for 15 and the '26 FRP.


Cannot do that, I recall early on that the 2026 pick cannot be traded back to us because of other trades made around it.
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Post#1813 » by Stanford » Today 12:50 am

Lovetron Joe wrote:
Stanford wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:
In volume or quality?


Quality is near the bottom


Who is at the top?


Basically all the ones that don't come here to gloat about a Maxey for Kyle Lowry trade that never happened.
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Post#1814 » by Black Mage » Today 12:53 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Bailey says he's added 15 pounds? Of muscle? Since the combine in May. I'm sorry, but NO FKIN WAY! Not a chance in hell he's done that.


H-igh G-rade H-ooping builds muscle, didn't ya know?
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Post#1815 » by Black Mage » Today 12:57 am

Arsenal wrote:Unlike Ace who has been hard at work improving his body... this guy continues to pound the Big Macs!

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Modern era Shawn Kemp? Potentially amazing talent undone by uncontrolled weight.
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Post#1816 » by Negrodamus » Today 12:58 am

Black Mage wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Bailey says he's added 15 pounds? Of muscle? Since the combine in May. I'm sorry, but NO FKIN WAY! Not a chance in hell he's done that.


H-igh G-rade H-ooping builds muscle, didn't ya know?


His agent does know how to procure crack, so hgh is a walk in the park.
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Post#1817 » by Black Mage » Today 12:59 am

MVP1992 wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Bailey says he's added 15 pounds? Of muscle? Since the combine in May. I'm sorry, but NO FKIN WAY! Not a chance in hell he's done that.


Ace Bailey at a ROCKED UP 220 lbs. is a problem for any opposing D!


If you squint, you can see hulking stretch marks.

Read on Twitter


Definitely a goof, but seems like Harper likes him. If we do go Ace and keep him, I think him and McCain are going to be a riot together.
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Post#1818 » by MVP1992 » Today 1:00 am

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davesilver wrote:If the Nets give up a slew of picks to move up to #3, I'd move #8 to OKC for 15 and the '26 FRP.


Cannot do that, I recall early on that the 2026 pick cannot be traded back to us because of other trades made around it.


Are you thinking of the Wizzards 2026 pick, that i wanted to try a dodgy workaround to get back that can't be done?

"OKC can trade the 2026 Philadelphia 76ers’ first-round pick back to the Sixers without violating the Stepien Rule, as they have first-round picks in 2025 (Miami, Clippers) and are projected to have at least one in 2026 (own or Houston/Clippers, possibly Utah) and 2027 (own or Denver swap, possibly Utah). No specific trade restrictions or CBA violations prevent this trade, based on available information."
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Post#1819 » by Da Doctor » Today 1:01 am

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Post#1820 » by Arsenal » Today 1:03 am

MVP1992 wrote:
Black Mage wrote:
davesilver wrote:If the Nets give up a slew of picks to move up to #3, I'd move #8 to OKC for 15 and the '26 FRP.


Cannot do that, I recall early on that the 2026 pick cannot be traded back to us because of other trades made around it.


Are you thinking of the Wizzards 2026 pick, that i wanted to try a dodgy workaround to get back that can't be done?

"OKC can trade the 2026 Philadelphia 76ers’ first-round pick back to the Sixers without violating the Stepien Rule, as they have first-round picks in 2025 (Miami, Clippers) and are projected to have at least one in 2026 (own or Houston/Clippers, possibly Utah) and 2027 (own or Denver swap, possibly Utah or Philadelphia). No specific trade restrictions or CBA violations prevent this trade, based on available information."


I think the problem is that we owe BKN a pick 2 years after we convey a pick to OKC. Not sure how that works if we trade for our pick in 2026 back. I assume we'd still owe our 2028 (1-8 protected) to BKN in that case, assuming it's allowed to get our 2026 1st back.

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