Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #1821 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:06 am

I don't think we're going to make a big blockbuster trade this offseason. I like the idea of Oladipo, but he's going to Boston or some other team that I hate. I don't think Houston is going to trade Harden, the Spurs will try and move Aldridge and Derozan if he opts in. Neither one of those guys fit our current needs. Any trade we do will have to be us trying to convince a team to take Al Horford or Tobias Harris and that is going to be an almost insurmountable task all things considered. Maybe a small trade?

I can honestly see us striking out big time this offseason and it may actually be for the better. Standing pat for a while isn't exactly a bad idea. Brand has gotten us into some hot water with Harris and Horford and it may be time to sit and wait things out. Maybe pump their value a little bit. Look at Chris Paul for no bigger or perfect example. You could have traded a bag of expiring players for Chris Paul before the season started. Now....OKC Is going to get something nice in return for him. The same logic should be applied with Al Horford/ Especially for this coming season. The trade deadline is going to arrive and God forbid, if Al Horford is playing at a high level next season, (draining open threes and playing lock down stifling low post defense on the other end), there will be a few suitors for him that will come calling. Same can be said for Tobias Harris to a lesser extent.
I'm just saying that if all else fails, we can still fall back on the pump and dump idea. It works like a charm, especially with desperate teams. You always get that one team, that goes all in at the deadline only the finish as a 6th seed in the playoffs. Not like us...Definitely not how we roll. Anyway, since this team is clearly built for the playoffs, we can just sit Embiid for like....two months with some fake injury. He'll probably miss another month injuring a toe when he returns...The treadmill will break down at the facility and he wont be able to rehab it. So Horford may possibly get 3/4 of a season to really pump his value. Then we can trade him for something in return....Like Lauri Markkanen or some stud stretch 4 that can nail an open range three pointer off a fastbreak led by a steamrolling Ben Simmons and a crisp lazerbeam pass right out of an open layup.

ankle420breaker · Post #1822 » by **ankle420breaker** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:25 am

I doubt LAC would rush into trading PG considering what they gave up to get him, but I wonder if they'd entertain parting with PG, Green, and McGruder for Horford, J-Rich, OKC pick.

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youngcrev · Post #1823 » by **youngcrev** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:25 pm

Horford to LAC
LouWill to PHI
Montrez S&T to a 3rd team

ProcessDoctor · Post #1824 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:30 pm

IND out: Oladipo, McDermott
IND in: Hield, Bjelica, #21

PHI out: Horford, Richardson, #21, 2021 NYK 2nd
PHI in: Oladipo, McDermott

SAC out: Hield, Bjelica
SAC in: Horford, Richardson, 2021 NYK 2nd

Simmons(34)/Milton(14)
Oladipo(32)/Milton(10)/Korkmaz(6)
McDermott(10)/Thybulle(28)/Korkmaz(10)
Harris(34)/McDermott(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)

Simmons/Milton/#36
Oladipo/Korkmaz/Smith
McDermott/Thybulle/#49
Harris/Scott/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

Post #1825 » by **sixers hoops** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 3:07 am

sixerswillrule wrote:Purely hypothetical - would a team like this have a shot?

Devonte' Graham
Bradley Beal
Matisse Thybulle
Ben Simmons
Myles Turner

I’m thinking no, but I’m not good at projecting these things. And I don’t know much about Devonte Graham.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1826 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 1:26 pm

Seems like both Rivers and MDA want Simmons at PG and Harris at PF. We need our SG or SF to be a half-court playmaker, and the other to be a solid 3-point shooter. I think Chicago would be the best trading partner to accomplish this with LaVine + either Thad or Porter.

Horford/Richardson/Smith/#21/#36/2021 NYK 2nd for LaVine/Young

Simmons(34)/Milton(14)
LaVine(32)/)/Milton(10)/Korkmaz(6)
Thybulle(28)/Harris(10)/Korkmaz(10)
Harris(24)/Young(24)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)

Simmons/Milton
LaVine/Korkmaz/#49
Thybulle/Scott/Shayok
Harris/Young/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

youngcrev · Post #1827 » by **youngcrev** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 1:41 pm

Kings: Horford/Richardson
Magic: Joseph/#21
Sixers: Hield/Fournier

Kings get 2 quality starters that can defend and space.

Magic take a step towards getting off the treadmill.

Sixers get a couple of guys that can both pull up from deep and hit shots off screens.

youngcrev · Post #1828 » by **youngcrev** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 3:25 pm

My interest level in Zach LaVine goes up a bit if we hire Doc (and if he's available for something reasonable). He's had success with those types of players (JCrossover, Lou Will), and LaVine might have more natural talent than either. I think Doc gets a enough respect to get through to him.

I also think Doc makes getting a player that can be your team leader like Paul slightly less of a priority (though I'd still have interest in him regardless)

ProcessDoctor · Post #1829 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 6:15 pm

Would it be ridiculous to bring in both CP3 and Redick after hiring Doc?

Trade #1: Horford/Scott/Smith/#21 for Paul

Trade #2: Richardson/Korkmaz for Redick/Hart

Paul(30)/Milton(18)
Redick(24)/Hart(24)
Harris(20)/Thybulle(28)
Simmons(34)/Harris(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)

Paul/Milton/#49
Redick/Hart/#36
Harris/Thybulle/Shayok
Simmons/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

phillynative · Post #1830 » by **phillynative** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 6:57 pm

youngcrev wrote:Kings: Horford/Richardson
Magic: Joseph/#21
Sixers: Hield/Fournier

Kings get 2 quality starters that can defend and space.

Magic take a step towards getting off the treadmill.

Sixers get a couple of guys that can both pull up from deep and hit shots off screens.

We get better offensively but why do we have to give up #21? Was hoping we could get a saadiq bey or josh green

youngcrev · Post #1831 » by **youngcrev** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 7:31 pm

phillynative wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Kings: Horford/Richardson
Magic: Joseph/#21
Sixers: Hield/Fournier

Kings get 2 quality starters that can defend and space.

Magic take a step towards getting off the treadmill.

Sixers get a couple of guys that can both pull up from deep and hit shots off screens.

We get better offensively but why do we have to give up #21? Was hoping we could get a saadiq bey or josh green

To get Fournier

Kobblehead · Post #1832 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 7:45 pm

youngcrev wrote:Sixers get a couple of guys that can both pull up from deep and hit shots off screens.

Neither of which can play defense or score off the dribble against real defenders, though.

Also, Fournier has really struggled in the postseason.

youngcrev · Post #1833 » by **youngcrev** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 7:54 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Sixers get a couple of guys that can both pull up from deep and hit shots off screens.

Neither of which can play defense or score off the dribble against real defenders, though.

Also, Fournier has really struggled in the postseason.

Other than CP3, it would tough to get a guy that's a high end off the dribble scorer that has performed at a high level in the playoffs with the pieces we have to trade.

Kobblehead · Post #1834 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 8:02 pm

I'd rather just be stuck with Horford and still have our pick than to be saddled with two bad playoff skillsets that "fit" better, tbh.

phillynative · Post #1835 » by **phillynative** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 8:06 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Sixers get a couple of guys that can both pull up from deep and hit shots off screens.

Neither of which can play defense or score off the dribble against real defenders, though.

Also, Fournier has really struggled in the postseason.

I noticed and it makes me even less hopeful for a player like furkan who is like a poor man version of him

Monix · Post #1836 » by **Monix** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 9:11 pm

phillynative wrote:I noticed and it makes me even less hopeful for a player like furkan who is like a poor man version of him

If you use bbref player comparison tool, they are pretty much the same player in the ages 20-22 seasons

Post #1837 » by **sixers hoops** » Fri Oct 2, 2020 1:53 am

Kobblehead wrote:I'd rather just be stuck with Horford and still have our pick than to be saddled with two bad playoff skillsets that "fit" better, tbh.

I really don’t want to move Shake, Thybulle, or our pick. I would rather look for some undervalued players that we can get for Josh, Horford, and Scott. Obviously the return for Horford could very likely be a bad contract, but that’s fine if the player is a better fit.

Throwing away our first, Thybulle, and Shake to fix Brand’s mistakes won’t be worth it. In addition, Brand has made some bad trades, I’d rather not see what he can get for those guys.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1838 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Fri Oct 2, 2020 2:20 am

The *absolute* best we can probably get for Horford/Richardson without giving up #21/Thybulle is Hield/Barnes. That does nothing for our playoff chances though. We’d be the pre-Butler team all over again.

51X3RF4N · Post #1839 » by **51X3RF4N** » Fri Oct 2, 2020 4:39 am

So some dude tweeted Doc is going to try to trade Ben for #1 to take Ball...

It got me thinking...

A reasonable deal for Ben to Minny that works...and is meant for the sole purpose of replenishing the cupboards of draft stock to build from within, Doc and EB working together to make their own thing work...

Ben

For

Naz Reid
Omari Spellman
#1
#17
2022 unprotected 1st
2024 unprotected 1st

Why for Minnesota? All in move. Pair Ben with KAT and DLo. Massive big 3 to compete in the West. Resign Beasley, with Culver, Okogie, and Layman off the bench.

Why for Philly? You get LaMelo under Doc, to build around him with Embiid. You get a young backup PF and a young backup C.

Then other moves...

Eric Gordon to Miami for nothing - they can eat his salary to add a vet shooting guard.

Horford to Houston- new coach will want a Center and to build a real roster.

Covington and Austin Rivers to Philly- bring Austin off the bench behind JRich, Covington returns!

Trade picks and Shake to move up and select Tyrell Terry and Saddiq Bey.

Embiid/Reid/Pelle
Harris/Scott/Spellman
Covington/Bey/Korkmaz
Richardson/Thybulle/Zhaire
Ball/Rivers/Terry

With extra picks in 2022 and 2024.

Ball is the only starter who isn't a vet. Rivers backing him up next to a mix of youth and vets. Then, even more youth with 3 of the bottom 5 roster spots.

Realistically, I can see Doc working to get Cov and Austin for Horford done.

Aussiepiston1 · Post #1840 » by **Aussiepiston1** » Fri Oct 2, 2020 1:05 pm

51X3RF4N wrote:So some dude tweeted Doc is going to try to trade Ben for #1 to take Ball...

It got me thinking...

A reasonable deal for Ben to Minny that works...and is meant for the sole purpose of replenishing the cupboards of draft stock to build from within, Doc and EB working together to make their own thing work...

Ben

For

Naz Reid
Omari Spellman
#1
#17
2022 unprotected 1st
2024 unprotected 1st

Why for Minnesota? All in move. Pair Ben with KAT and DLo. Massive big 3 to compete in the West. Resign Beasley, with Culver, Okogie, and Layman off the bench.

Why for Philly? You get LaMelo under Doc, to build around him with Embiid. You get a young backup PF and a young backup C.

Then other moves...

Eric Gordon to Miami for nothing - they can eat his salary to add a vet shooting guard.

Horford to Houston- new coach will want a Center and to build a real roster.

Covington and Austin Rivers to Philly- bring Austin off the bench behind JRich, Covington returns!

Trade picks and Shake to move up and select Tyrell Terry and Saddiq Bey.

Embiid/Reid/Pelle
Harris/Scott/Spellman
Covington/Bey/Korkmaz
Richardson/Thybulle/Zhaire
Ball/Rivers/Terry

With extra picks in 2022 and 2024.

Ball is the only starter who isn't a vet. Rivers backing him up next to a mix of youth and vets. Then, even more youth with 3 of the bottom 5 roster spots.

Realistically, I can see Doc working to get Cov and Austin for Horford done.

If Doc thinks Edwards or Ball could be all stars I would seriously consider it but I’d make a 3 team trade with OKC
Sending Jrich and Scott along with James Johnson for CP3
I’d also want Culver instead of the 2024 pick.
CP3 /Milton /17
Edwards / Smith/21
Culver / thybulle
Harris / Korkmaz
Embiid/ Horford