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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1841 » by Monix » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:46 am

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zimpy27 wrote:Okafor is a big disappointment. Just imagine having Porzee instead..

Evan Turner is a big disappointment. Just imagine having Cousins/Hayward/George instead. Imagine having Kawhi or Jimmy Butler or Draymond or Giannis or Gobert instead. Imagine.


Reportedly Hinkie wanted Porzingis and management overruled him.

he could have resigned then, he didn't

he made the pick
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1842 » by spikeslovechild » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:11 am

If we selected Porzingis we probably don't get simmons.

So there's that at least but yeah it's time to move on. I'll freely admit I thought Porzingis wouldn't rebound or play defense at the NBA level and I sort of miscalculated two things. The speed of which the game has changed away from PF who bully their way and score inside. Honestly, Porzingis can't guard those guys but there just aren't enough of them to change the narrative of his overall play.

His rebounding I was most off though. His euro numbers were awful. However, something clicked when he came over.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1843 » by Ericb5 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:31 am

spikeslovechild wrote:If we selected Porzingis we probably don't get simmons.

So there's that at least but yeah it's time to move on. I'll freely admit I thought Porzingis wouldn't rebound or play defense at the NBA level and I sort of miscalculated two things. The speed of which the game has changed away from PF who bully their way and score inside. Honestly, Porzingis can't guard those guys but there just aren't enough of them to change the narrative of his overall play.

His rebounding I was most off though. His euro numbers were awful. However, something clicked when he came over.


He still isn't a good rebounder. He is a tough nosed competitor though, and he is a great shooter.

I don't think that Porzingis succeeding has anything to do with the modern NBA. He just is a good player, and the modern NBA takes fuller advantage of his skills. He is skilled regardless.


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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1844 » by Unbreakable99 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:43 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:If we selected Porzingis we probably don't get simmons.

So there's that at least but yeah it's time to move on. I'll freely admit I thought Porzingis wouldn't rebound or play defense at the NBA level and I sort of miscalculated two things. The speed of which the game has changed away from PF who bully their way and score inside. Honestly, Porzingis can't guard those guys but there just aren't enough of them to change the narrative of his overall play.

His rebounding I was most off though. His euro numbers were awful. However, something clicked when he came over.


If we draft Porzingis yes we still would have gotten Simmons. We had the worst record by like 8 games. Our team was awful. Porzingis was not going to win us 7 more games. We could have had Porzingis Simmons and Embiid.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1845 » by Mrcrockpots » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:45 pm

Who is Jahlil Okafor?
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1846 » by TTP » Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:48 pm

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spikeslovechild wrote:If we selected Porzingis we probably don't get simmons.

So there's that at least but yeah it's time to move on. I'll freely admit I thought Porzingis wouldn't rebound or play defense at the NBA level and I sort of miscalculated two things. The speed of which the game has changed away from PF who bully their way and score inside. Honestly, Porzingis can't guard those guys but there just aren't enough of them to change the narrative of his overall play.

His rebounding I was most off though. His euro numbers were awful. However, something clicked when he came over.


If we draft Porzingis yes we still would have gotten Simmons. We had the worst record by like 8 games. Our team was awful. Porzingis was not going to win us 7 more games. We could have had Porzingis Simmons and Embiid.


I'm not so sure. It's not just how many wins Porzingis adds. You also have to consider that Okafor was worth negative wins that year.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1847 » by LloydFree » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:09 pm

TTP wrote:
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spikeslovechild wrote:If we selected Porzingis we probably don't get simmons.

So there's that at least but yeah it's time to move on. I'll freely admit I thought Porzingis wouldn't rebound or play defense at the NBA level and I sort of miscalculated two things. The speed of which the game has changed away from PF who bully their way and score inside. Honestly, Porzingis can't guard those guys but there just aren't enough of them to change the narrative of his overall play.

His rebounding I was most off though. His euro numbers were awful. However, something clicked when he came over.


If we draft Porzingis yes we still would have gotten Simmons. We had the worst record by like 8 games. Our team was awful. Porzingis was not going to win us 7 more games. We could have had Porzingis Simmons and Embiid.


I'm not so sure. It's not just how many wins Porzingis adds. You also have to consider that Okafor was worth negative wins that year.

In a vacuum Porzingis doesn't make up 9 games. He isn't good enough. But the team would have easily been 9 games better in 2016, because he would have allowed Brown to use Noel properly. Considering the team was a top 12 defense the previous season, there is no reason to believe it would have been any different with the addition of Porzingis. I'm not a Porzingis fan by any means, but you have to be some kind of special to think Porzingis wouldn't fit better with Noel than Okafor did.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1848 » by Unbreakable99 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:16 pm

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If we draft Porzingis yes we still would have gotten Simmons. We had the worst record by like 8 games. Our team was awful. Porzingis was not going to win us 7 more games. We could have had Porzingis Simmons and Embiid.


I'm not so sure. It's not just how many wins Porzingis adds. You also have to consider that Okafor was worth negative wins that year.

In a vacuum Porzingis doesn't make up 9 games. He isn't good enough. But the team would have easily been 9 games better in 2016, because he would have allowed Brown to use Noel properly. Considering the team was a top 12 defense the previous season, there is no reason to believe it would have been any different with the addition of Porzingis. I'm not a Porzingis fan by any means, but you have to be some kind of special to think Porzingis wouldn't fit better with Noel than Okafor did.


We would have been better and more cohesive but 8 games better just to tie the second worst team? I think that's a stretch. I think the second worst team won 18 games. We won 10. 8 games is a lot just to force a tie for worst record. I still say we have the worst record and get Simmons.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1849 » by LloydFree » Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:34 pm

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I'm not so sure. It's not just how many wins Porzingis adds. You also have to consider that Okafor was worth negative wins that year.

In a vacuum Porzingis doesn't make up 9 games. He isn't good enough. But the team would have easily been 9 games better in 2016, because he would have allowed Brown to use Noel properly. Considering the team was a top 12 defense the previous season, there is no reason to believe it would have been any different with the addition of Porzingis. I'm not a Porzingis fan by any means, but you have to be some kind of special to think Porzingis wouldn't fit better with Noel than Okafor did.


We would have been better and more cohesive but 8 games better just to tie the second worst team? I think that's a stretch. I think the second worst team won 18 games. We won 10. 8 games is a lot just to force a tie for worst record. I still say we have the worst record and get Simmons.

The 76ers won 18 games the year before. The team would have been no worse than that. No team with a top 12 defense becomes a 10 win team. If anything, Porzingis would have improved the defense, because he would have been replacing Henry Sims' minutes.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1850 » by Ericb5 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:55 pm

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LloydFree wrote:In a vacuum Porzingis doesn't make up 9 games. He isn't good enough. But the team would have easily been 9 games better in 2016, because he would have allowed Brown to use Noel properly. Considering the team was a top 12 defense the previous season, there is no reason to believe it would have been any different with the addition of Porzingis. I'm not a Porzingis fan by any means, but you have to be some kind of special to think Porzingis wouldn't fit better with Noel than Okafor did.


We would have been better and more cohesive but 8 games better just to tie the second worst team? I think that's a stretch. I think the second worst team won 18 games. We won 10. 8 games is a lot just to force a tie for worst record. I still say we have the worst record and get Simmons.

The 76ers won 18 games the year before. The team would have been no worse than that. No team with a top 12 defense becomes a 10 win team. If anything, Porzingis would have improved the defense, because he would have been replacing Henry Sims' minutes.


We would have been better with Porzingis, but the primary driver of that horrible team was the horrible back court, which would have been just as bad. I don't think that it would have prevented us from having the worst record.


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Post#1851 » by LloydFree » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:20 pm

Ericb5 wrote:
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We would have been better and more cohesive but 8 games better just to tie the second worst team? I think that's a stretch. I think the second worst team won 18 games. We won 10. 8 games is a lot just to force a tie for worst record. I still say we have the worst record and get Simmons.

The 76ers won 18 games the year before. The team would have been no worse than that. No team with a top 12 defense becomes a 10 win team. If anything, Porzingis would have improved the defense, because he would have been replacing Henry Sims' minutes.


We would have been better with Porzingis, but the primary driver of that horrible team was the horrible back court, which would have been just as bad. I don't think that it would have prevented us from having the worst record.


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You mean the the team that had the same TJ McConnell and Nik Stauskas, the same guys who played last year? Just stop.
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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1852 » by Chris76 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:47 pm

LloydFree wrote:
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LloydFree wrote:The 76ers won 18 games the year before. The team would have been no worse than that. No team with a top 12 defense becomes a 10 win team. If anything, Porzingis would have improved the defense, because he would have been replacing Henry Sims' minutes.


We would have been better with Porzingis, but the primary driver of that horrible team was the horrible back court, which would have been just as bad. I don't think that it would have prevented us from having the worst record.


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You mean the the team that had the same TJ McConnell and and Nik Stauskas, the same guys who played last year? Just stop.


Sergio was crafty, but he and TJ are small. Good SFs would isolate them and get easy shots.

Cannon may have been worse on defense. Hinkie didn't want good guards till the end of the rebuild.

Anyway, the poor guard play effected some of the players in different ways. To ignore that is unfair.
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Post#1853 » by rzzzzz » Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:57 pm

yeah, well we all know how Nerlens felt about the guard play. his "friendship" with MCW didn't get in the way of his voicing his satisfaction over getting him replaced with as modest a talent as the Fish. 'course OK4 concurred the following year with Ish's return, 2 draft picks later, during their brief pairing before the big guy went down. as far as the Zinger allowing Nerlens to play his natural position, that would be true i guess, except with the Process in the wings, Sam really was hoping that Noel might thrive in the forward position. too bad for all of us that particular adjustment was not going to work out.
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Post#1854 » by bedjawII » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:44 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
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I'm not so sure. It's not just how many wins Porzingis adds. You also have to consider that Okafor was worth negative wins that year.

In a vacuum Porzingis doesn't make up 9 games. He isn't good enough. But the team would have easily been 9 games better in 2016, because he would have allowed Brown to use Noel properly. Considering the team was a top 12 defense the previous season, there is no reason to believe it would have been any different with the addition of Porzingis. I'm not a Porzingis fan by any means, but you have to be some kind of special to think Porzingis wouldn't fit better with Noel than Okafor did.


We would have been better and more cohesive but 8 games better just to tie the second worst team? I think that's a stretch. I think the second worst team won 18 games. We won 10. 8 games is a lot just to force a tie for worst record. I still say we have the worst record and get Simmons.

Yeah. In no universe or under any circumstances does Pozingas equate to an 8 game swing. He was very inconsistent as a rook. Just as most are.
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Post#1855 » by Ericb5 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:51 pm

LloydFree wrote:
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LloydFree wrote:The 76ers won 18 games the year before. The team would have been no worse than that. No team with a top 12 defense becomes a 10 win team. If anything, Porzingis would have improved the defense, because he would have been replacing Henry Sims' minutes.


We would have been better with Porzingis, but the primary driver of that horrible team was the horrible back court, which would have been just as bad. I don't think that it would have prevented us from having the worst record.


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You mean the the team that had the same TJ McConnell and Nik Stauskas, the same guys who played last year? Just stop.


Both of those guys improved between those years, but Rodriquez and Henderson were way better than what came before.



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Post#1856 » by eagereyez » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:54 am

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Okafor legit moves faster in water than on land.
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Post#1857 » by BigSleep333 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:04 am

cmon guys. dont make fun of one of ours. that exercise is clearly about to strengthen the knees.

his reactions are pretty a$$ and that probably wont change in this lifetime, but he already showed he wants to get better by slimming down. we dont have to diss our own players that much, cause they dont reach their expectations. we have **** embiid, simmons and fultz. get over okafor
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Post#1858 » by Chris76 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:23 pm

BigSleep333 wrote:cmon guys. dont make fun of one of ours. that exercise is clearly about to strengthen the knees.

his reactions are pretty a$$ and that probably wont change in this lifetime, but he already showed he wants to get better by slimming down. we dont have to diss our own players that much, cause they dont reach their expectations. we have **** embiid, simmons and fultz. get over okafor


His reactions could be better. Mostly, he didn't help on defense. He watched others get beat and never left his man.

His awareness and reaction could be better. I'm sure he is going to try now. Having 2 good centers should be a luxury for the Sixers.
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Post#1859 » by Sixersftw » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:57 pm

Read on Twitter

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Re: Where is Jahlil Okafor? 

Post#1860 » by Eyeamok » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:38 pm

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Read on Twitter

so it begins again.


I wonder if he means off the court or on the court....or could it be both. :pray:

Okafor is like the Hound. Left for dead on the rocks flies buzzing around him. Then a few seasons later he is alive and well and is a good guy that fans like and cheer for. WTH !!! :D
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