Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season

[stormi]

So some dude tweeted Doc is going to try to trade Ben for #1 to take Ball...

It got me thinking...

A reasonable deal for Ben to Minny that works...and is meant for the sole purpose of replenishing the cupboards of draft stock to build from within, Doc and EB working together to make their own thing work...

Ben

For

Naz Reid
Omari Spellman
#1
#17
2022 unprotected 1st
2024 unprotected 1st

Why for Minnesota? All in move. Pair Ben with KAT and DLo. Massive big 3 to compete in the West. Resign Beasley, with Culver, Okogie, and Layman off the bench.

Why for Philly? You get LaMelo under Doc, to build around him with Embiid. You get a young backup PF and a young backup C.

Then other moves...

Eric Gordon to Miami for nothing - they can eat his salary to add a vet shooting guard.

Horford to Houston- new coach will want a Center and to build a real roster.

Covington and Austin Rivers to Philly- bring Austin off the bench behind JRich, Covington returns!

Trade picks and Shake to move up and select Tyrell Terry and Saddiq Bey.

Embiid/Reid/Pelle
Harris/Scott/Spellman
Covington/Bey/Korkmaz
Richardson/Thybulle/Zhaire
Ball/Rivers/Terry

With extra picks in 2022 and 2024.

Ball is the only starter who isn't a vet. Rivers backing him up next to a mix of youth and vets. Then, even more youth with 3 of the bottom 5 roster spots.

Realistically, I can see Doc working to get Cov and Austin for Horford done.

Would be fun to try on 2k.

[youngcrev]

If you're trading Ben for picks you might as well trade Jo while you're at it.

[youngcrev]

I'd rather just be stuck with Horford and still have our pick than to be saddled with two bad playoff skillsets that "fit" better, tbh.

I really don’t want to move Shake, Thybulle, or our pick. I would rather look for some undervalued players that we can get for Josh, Horford, and Scott. Obviously the return for Horford could very likely be a bad contract, but that’s fine if the player is a better fit.

Throwing away our first, Thybulle, and Shake to fix Brand’s mistakes won’t be worth it. In addition, Brand has made some bad trades, I’d rather not see what he can get for those guys.

I'm not really overly attached to any of those pieces (moreso Thybulle than #21 or Shake). I worry more about giving up future picks that hamstring your ability to make moves down the line. Obviously I'm not actively looking to give them away, but if a move comes around that can help fix a mistake I'm not losing much sleep over those assets.

[DT RAW]

why in the actual hell would this team draft a PG with no shooting ability??? lamelo ball will be just as big a bust as his brother if not more as atleast his brother has a work ethic

I cant stand simmons, but if we do that deal with that return and get ball I'll never root for this team again. That is a HORRIBLE deal

trading to minnesota for Dlo is different as I would do that

[sixers hoops]

I'd rather just be stuck with Horford and still have our pick than to be saddled with two bad playoff skillsets that "fit" better, tbh.

I really don’t want to move Shake, Thybulle, or our pick. I would rather look for some undervalued players that we can get for Josh, Horford, and Scott. Obviously the return for Horford could very likely be a bad contract, but that’s fine if the player is a better fit.

Throwing away our first, Thybulle, and Shake to fix Brand’s mistakes won’t be worth it. In addition, Brand has made some bad trades, I’d rather not see what he can get for those guys.

I'm not really overly attached to any of those pieces (moreso Thybulle than #21 or Shake). I worry more about giving up future picks that hamstring your ability to make moves down the line. Obviously I'm not actively looking to give them away, but if a move comes around that can help fix a mistake I'm not losing much sleep over those assets.

I guess. I just feel like we won’t get near the value if Brand trades them.

Would I trade Shake to get Jrue Holiday? Sure

Do I want to throw those guys in for Paul, who will prob get hurt anyway? I don’t know. I’ll be okay with it, but I think we’ll regret it in a year when the team falls apart, Paul is hurt, and Shake or Thybulle are playing well on another team.

[youngcrev]

I really don’t want to move Shake, Thybulle, or our pick. I would rather look for some undervalued players that we can get for Josh, Horford, and Scott. Obviously the return for Horford could very likely be a bad contract, but that’s fine if the player is a better fit.

Throwing away our first, Thybulle, and Shake to fix Brand’s mistakes won’t be worth it. In addition, Brand has made some bad trades, I’d rather not see what he can get for those guys.

I'm not really overly attached to any of those pieces (moreso Thybulle than #21 or Shake). I worry more about giving up future picks that hamstring your ability to make moves down the line. Obviously I'm not actively looking to give them away, but if a move comes around that can help fix a mistake I'm not losing much sleep over those assets.

I guess. I just feel like we won’t get near the value if Brand trades them.

Would I trade Shake to get Jrue Holiday? Sure

Do I want to throw those guys in for Paul, who will prob get hurt anyway? I don’t know. I’ll be okay with it, but I think we’ll regret it in a year when the team falls apart, Paul is hurt, and Shake or Thybulle are playing well on another team.

I think Jrue's contract scares me more than CP3's with Elton doing the negotiation.

[ProcessDoctor]

Trade 1: Horford/Korkmaz/#21 for Hield/Bjelica

Trade 2:

BKN out: Dinwiddie, LeVert, Allen, #19
BKN in: Oladipo, Turner

IND out: Oladipo, Tuner
IND in: Richardson, LeVert, Allen, Scott, #19, #36, 2021 NYK 2nd

PHI out: Richardson, Scott, #36, 2021 NYK 2nd
PHI in: Dinwiddie


Dinwiddie(32)/Simmons(12)/Milton(4)
Hield(32)/Thybulle(8)/Milton(8)
Harris(32)/Thybulle(16)
Simmons(20)/Bjelica(28)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Dinwiddie/Milton/#49
Hield/Smith/Shayok
Harris/Thybulle/Scott
Simmons/Bjelica/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

[the_process]

First Richardson, Scott, Smith, and 34 to DAL for Seth Curry, Delon Wright, and 18

Then Brook Lopez to LAC
Harris and 18 to MIL
Lou Williams, Eric Bledsoe, and Ersan Ilyasova to PHI

[the_process]

I'm not really overly attached to any of those pieces (moreso Thybulle than #21 or Shake). I worry more about giving up future picks that hamstring your ability to make moves down the line. Obviously I'm not actively looking to give them away, but if a move comes around that can help fix a mistake I'm not losing much sleep over those assets.

I guess. I just feel like we won’t get near the value if Brand trades them.

Would I trade Shake to get Jrue Holiday? Sure

Do I want to throw those guys in for Paul, who will prob get hurt anyway? I don’t know. I’ll be okay with it, but I think we’ll regret it in a year when the team falls apart, Paul is hurt, and Shake or Thybulle are playing well on another team.

I think Jrue's contract scares me more than CP3's with Elton doing the negotiation.

If the Sixers can include Harris as part of a Jrue deal... I'd rather have Jrue on a 5-170 deal than Tobias.

[youngcrev]

I guess. I just feel like we won’t get near the value if Brand trades them.

Would I trade Shake to get Jrue Holiday? Sure

Do I want to throw those guys in for Paul, who will prob get hurt anyway? I don’t know. I’ll be okay with it, but I think we’ll regret it in a year when the team falls apart, Paul is hurt, and Shake or Thybulle are playing well on another team.

I think Jrue's contract scares me more than CP3's with Elton doing the negotiation.

If the Sixers can include Harris as part of a Jrue deal... I'd rather have Jrue on a 5-170 deal than Tobias.

Sure, and I'm not opposed to acquiring Jrue, just pointing out that he's due for a new deal, and it might not be pretty. That's a hell of a lot scarier than Paul on a 2 for 85. Plus Paul's just a flat out better player and fit.

[ProcessDoctor]

A variation of the trade Zimpy mentioned in the “fix this mess” thread.


DAL out: Curry, #18
DAL in: Richardson

OKC out: Paul, Muscala, #25
OKC in: Horford, Scott, Smith, #18, #21

PHI out: Horford, Richardson, Smith, Scott, #21
PHI in: Paul, Curry, Muscala, #25


Paul(30)/Curry(18)
Milton(24)/Korkmaz(16)/Curry(8)
Harris(20)/Thybulle(28)
Simmons(34)/Harris(14)
Embiid(30)/Muscala(18)


Paul/Curry/#36
Milton/Korkmaz/#25
Harris/Thybulle/Shayok
Simmons/#34
Embiid/Muscala/Pelle

[stormi]

Would be disappointing to bring in #18 while still owning #21 and to trade them both away. Also to gain but then lose Wright who's a great bench guard and to still be trotting out a Kork/Thybulle/Muscala/Pelle type second unit

[youngcrev]

The bleacher report suggestion of Richardson for Curry/18 is something I'd do.

[the_process]

I think Jrue's contract scares me more than CP3's with Elton doing the negotiation.

If the Sixers can include Harris as part of a Jrue deal... I'd rather have Jrue on a 5-170 deal than Tobias.

Sure, and I'm not opposed to acquiring Jrue, just pointing out that he's due for a new deal, and it might not be pretty. That's a hell of a lot scarier than Paul on a 2 for 85. Plus Paul's just a flat out better player and fit.

Agreed. And the (trade) price for Paul is probably more reasonable as well.

[the_process]

CHA gets Wiggins and 2
CHI gets Batum and 34
GSW gets Horford and 3
PHI gets Satoransky and Young

[eyeatoma]

Trade 1: Horford/Korkmaz/#21 for Hield/Bjelica

Trade 2:

BKN out: Dinwiddie, LeVert, Allen, #19
BKN in: Oladipo, Turner

IND out: Oladipo, Tuner
IND in: Richardson, LeVert, Allen, Scott, #19, #36, 2021 NYK 2nd

PHI out: Richardson, Scott, #36, 2021 NYK 2nd
PHI in: Dinwiddie


Dinwiddie(32)/Simmons(12)/Milton(4)
Hield(32)/Thybulle(8)/Milton(8)
Harris(32)/Thybulle(16)
Simmons(20)/Bjelica(28)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Dinwiddie/Milton/#49
Hield/Smith/Shayok
Harris/Thybulle/Scott
Simmons/Bjelica/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

My God yes.

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[ankle420breaker]

CP3 and Hield still seem to be the best of the realistic options out there for us. I'd push hard to get a deal done with NO to acquire Jrue, but don't foresee that coming to fruition.

Two minimum deal FA's I'm hoping we target are Josh Jackson and Willie Hernangomez (only if we end up parting ways with Horford). JJ has the tools to put perimeter scorers in a box defensively and Hernangomez is a Steven Adam's light backup C. Strong rebounder who sets solid screens while not being an offensive liability. Both could provide solid rotation minutes without breaking the bank.

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[youngcrev]

CP3 to Philly version 300402

PHI: Chris Paul, Eric Paschall
GSW: Josh Richardson
OKC: Al Horford, #21, GSW '21 1st

This version has us keeping our "coveted" young guys, as well as adding another young, cheap bench piece in Paschall. Ideally they'd find a follow up for a starting caliber shooter, but as is they'd have Shake, Thybulle, and Korkmaz as 5th starter options.

The Warriors use their lesser assets and ability to take on salary via T.E. to pick up a quality starting wing.

The Thunder cut an immediate 11M off the payroll and pick up a couple of 1sts for Paul.

[ProcessDoctor]

Which roster gives us the best chance at winning a championship within the next 3 years?

Roster #1:

Dinwiddie/Milton/#49
Hield/Smith/Shayok
Harris/Thybulle/Scott
Simmons/Bjelica/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle


Roster #2:

Paul/Curry/#36
Milton/Korkmaz/#25
Harris/Thybulle/Shayok
Simmons/#34
Embiid/Muscala/Pelle

[sixers hoops]

I think Jrue's contract scares me more than CP3's with Elton doing the negotiation.

If the Sixers can include Harris as part of a Jrue deal... I'd rather have Jrue on a 5-170 deal than Tobias.

Sure, and I'm not opposed to acquiring Jrue, just pointing out that he's due for a new deal, and it might not be pretty. That's a hell of a lot scarier than Paul on a 2 for 85. Plus Paul's just a flat out better player and fit.

I didn’t even realize he was expiring.

Paul was a better player last year, but it was unusual for him to stay that healthy. I feel like there is a way better chance Jrue plays 70+ games strictly because he is five years younger. I think he gives us a nice little 3-4 run with Embiid.

Chris Paul I am very concerned sees a rapid decline.

I’m just basing this off our recent Horford experience. Very nervous to give up Shake for a 35 yo. I have a strong feeling that Chris Paul gets hurt, this team falls apart and loses in the first round. Meanwhile, Shake is playing really well in OKC or wherever. Then we will be looking to replace Chris Paul with one less asset.

Horford/Scott for Paul is a no-brainer. While Shake is a player with low-end starter/high-end bench upside, I still have major reservations giving him up for a 35 year old.

That being said, I would still be super pumped if the trade happened.