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Re: Around the League: 2022-23 Season 3.0 

Post#1841 » by Murray_17 » Sun Jul 2, 2023 7:29 am

Wilfried wrote:So … it’s better to keep Harden and thereby prevent Maxey from getting more touches and a chance of getting that All-NBA nod (and thereby save us some money)?



I think he can get there too if he gets an all-star nod, not sure tho.

At the end of the day, those are the risks of not extending him now.

His max starts at 35 million tho and would go over 40 at the third year of the contract.

I just don't think the increase in money matters, the deal is 25% of the cap and that's what you should keep in mind. The rest is inflation.

Edit: also, just sayin, but if you think Maxey is not worth Bane's money, you're fooling yourself
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Post#1842 » by the_process » Sun Jul 2, 2023 12:18 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:$25m is my cheapo comfort mark, but a little over $30 is tolerable.

But after Hali and Bane's deals, I'm worried Maxey is going to be asking for annual salary over $40m. Which is ridiculous for a 6'2" guy.


Maxey is definitely over 40M per now, unless he has a bad year. And now Dame is available finally.

Maxey is looking a lot like trade bait right now.


He cannot get over 40 millions, his max under the rose rule is between 40 and 41 millions. His max right now, in 24-25, would be around 35 millions. He can only get 25% of the cap

To reach the 40 millions he needs to get an all NBA nod this year, which allows him to get 30%.

If you read he wants 42 million, you read clickbait. His max can get over 42 millions after like the third year of it basically, but by the end of his contract the money would pass 50 millions (same as Bane).

That's what Bane got.


Bane will end up with 5/207 I believe. That’s an average of 41.4M per year, regardless of what the individual years are. That’s what I was talking about. Maxey will now want the same deal. Locking him early you might have gotten a discount. But I understand why they are not doing so.
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Post#1843 » by Murray_17 » Sun Jul 2, 2023 5:18 pm

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Bane will end up with 5/207 I believe. That’s an average of 41.4M per year, regardless of what the individual years are. That’s what I was talking about. Maxey will now want the same deal. Locking him early you might have gotten a discount. But I understand why they are not doing so.



Yeah, but the average is irrelevant in terms of the cap, what matters is each year.
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Post#1844 » by Kobblehead » Sun Jul 2, 2023 5:22 pm

the_process wrote:
Murray_17 wrote:
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Maxey is definitely over 40M per now, unless he has a bad year. And now Dame is available finally.

Maxey is looking a lot like trade bait right now.


He cannot get over 40 millions, his max under the rose rule is between 40 and 41 millions. His max right now, in 24-25, would be around 35 millions. He can only get 25% of the cap

To reach the 40 millions he needs to get an all NBA nod this year, which allows him to get 30%.

If you read he wants 42 million, you read clickbait. His max can get over 42 millions after like the third year of it basically, but by the end of his contract the money would pass 50 millions (same as Bane).

That's what Bane got.


Bane will end up with 5/207 I believe. That’s an average of 41.4M per year, regardless of what the individual years are. That’s what I was talking about. Maxey will now want the same deal. Locking him early you might have gotten a discount. But I understand why they are not doing so.

thought that was obvious. Murray trippin
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Post#1845 » by the_process » Sun Jul 2, 2023 11:05 pm

I am legit wondering what Morey plans are to fill out the roster.
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Post#1846 » by the_process » Sun Jul 2, 2023 11:07 pm

Murray_17 wrote:
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Bane will end up with 5/207 I believe. That’s an average of 41.4M per year, regardless of what the individual years are. That’s what I was talking about. Maxey will now want the same deal. Locking him early you might have gotten a discount. But I understand why they are not doing so.



Yeah, but the average is irrelevant in terms of the cap, what matters is each year.


Pretty sure the Sixers could choose to spread the cap hit evenly amongst the 5 years if they wanted.
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Post#1847 » by Murray_17 » Sun Jul 2, 2023 11:30 pm

the_process wrote:
Pretty sure the Sixers could choose to spread the cap hit evenly amongst the 5 years if they wanted.



They can not unless 25% of the cap is above that average. That's why the salary goes up with the cap
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Post#1848 » by 76ciology » Mon Jul 3, 2023 6:32 am

the_process wrote:I am legit wondering what Morey plans are to fill out the roster.


Maybe we’re expecting 3-4 role players in return on this Harden or Tobias trade
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Post#1849 » by SixthStreet » Mon Jul 3, 2023 7:41 am

For me Maxey has to make a leap in one of three areas to be worth the max:

1. Halfcourt ISO scoring ability. Punish wings with ballhandling to get in the paint. Draw fouls
2. Playmaking, both transition and halfcourt.
3. Defense, primarily affecting the possession game with deflections and steals.

Number 3 counts as a half leap. He'd need to add a half leap in 1 or 2 alongside. I'm skeptical but have learned to never count Maxey out. He consistently adds to his game but his archetype has a lot going against him.
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Post#1850 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Mon Jul 3, 2023 4:34 pm

Think we running harden and Tobias back ... I'm ok with it. Still need a starting 3 tho... Hmm...
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Post#1851 » by brannigan73 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 12:13 am

SixthStreet wrote:For me Maxey has to make a leap in one of three areas to be worth the max:

1. Halfcourt ISO scoring ability. Punish wings with ballhandling to get in the paint. Draw fouls
2. Playmaking, both transition and halfcourt.
3. Defense, primarily affecting the possession game with deflections and steals.

Number 3 counts as a half leap. He'd need to add a half leap in 1 or 2 alongside. I'm skeptical but have learned to never count Maxey out. He consistently adds to his game but his archetype has a lot going against him.


I don't disagree but its meaningless. You saw how money was spent this off-season by teams. If Maxey improves even a little bit someone will offer him a max and we have to match to keep him and we will.
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Post#1852 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 4, 2023 4:52 am

06-07 Leandro Barbosa wasn’t a max player

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Post#1853 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 4, 2023 6:44 am

IMO there’s a very good chance that both Wemby and Chet will be better than Embiid
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Post#1854 » by Kobblehead » Tue Jul 4, 2023 11:55 am

Godammit, Jalen Williams is going to develop into a star, isn't he?
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Post#1855 » by Kobblehead » Tue Jul 4, 2023 12:02 pm

76ciology wrote:IMO there’s a very good chance that both Wemby and Chet will be better than Embiid

Chet does look Durant-ish on his drives. He's not an elite athlete, but he's light on his feet and agile for someone his height. Teams are going to defend him with a wing.
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Post#1856 » by 76ciology » Tue Jul 4, 2023 12:38 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
76ciology wrote:IMO there’s a very good chance that both Wemby and Chet will be better than Embiid

Chet does look Durant-ish on his drives. He's not an elite athlete, but he's light on his feet and agile for someone his height. Teams are going to defend him with a wing.


The more a big plays like a wing or a guard, the better he will become.
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Re: Around the League: 2022-23 Season 3.0 

Post#1857 » by Kobblehead » Tue Jul 4, 2023 12:58 pm

76ciology wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
76ciology wrote:IMO there’s a very good chance that both Wemby and Chet will be better than Embiid

Chet does look Durant-ish on his drives. He's not an elite athlete, but he's light on his feet and agile for someone his height. Teams are going to defend him with a wing.


The more a big plays like a wing or a guard, the better he will become.

The more money he will make and the more fans he will attract.

But the more a big plays like a wing or a guard, the less impact he has on winning. Stepbacks, pullups, and fadeaways = turnovers and missed fga's.
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Post#1858 » by phillynative » Tue Jul 4, 2023 1:43 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
76ciology wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Chet does look Durant-ish on his drives. He's not an elite athlete, but he's light on his feet and agile for someone his height. Teams are going to defend him with a wing.


The more a big plays like a wing or a guard, the better he will become.

The more money he will make and the more fans he will attract.

But the more a big plays like a wing or a guard, the less impact he has on winning. Stepbacks, pullups, and fadeaways = turnovers and missed fga's.


I agree more flash than substance and more bitch*ng from Shaq n Chuck lol
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Post#1859 » by blargh » Tue Jul 4, 2023 2:12 pm

76ciology wrote:IMO there’s a very good chance that both Wemby and Chet will be better than Embiid


I think it’s unlikely both of them will even play as many seasons as Embiid.
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Post#1860 » by Eyeamok » Tue Jul 4, 2023 6:14 pm

76ciology wrote:IMO there’s a very good chance that both Wemby and Chet will be better than Embiid


Maybe one day. But not today and not in the next 3 seasons. Wait isn't Wemby supposed to be the next major thing in the NBA? Better than anything we have ever seen? I still recall the time that posters said Embiid would never be anything. Posters compared him to David Robinson, not his play, the fact that he missed 2 season straight and that was it. Now look at him, exceeded all expectations and won an MVP. Show that man some respect.
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