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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1841 » by youngcrev » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:52 pm

Does Obi Toppin make sense as a target? His rebounding and defensive stats are pretty underwhelming given his athleticism, but he's a true 4, is a freak of a vertical athlete as a lob/transition threat, and is solid enough of a spot up guy. And his salary is in a sensible range for us to acquire without losing actual depth.

I think he'd be helpful, but not optimal as a target. And would worry about the collective shooting of him/Kelly/Caleb in the rotation.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1842 » by the_process » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:53 pm

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I don't know what the Sixers have that MEM would want. Yabu maybe? Seems like MEM would just keep Aldama then?
The PHLY guys speculated that Memphis would want to keep salary low as a small market team.

I think Yabu and/or picks could be the crux of the deal.


If they want to give him away, sure. But I have a feeling they'd be asking for McCain and/or Clipper picks, which is a non-starter now.


Going back to this, and again I have no idea why MEM would do this other than they are very confident in their ability to turn lower 1sts into good role players AND they don't think they can afford to re-sign Aldama...

KJM, Drummond, Gordon, and the 26 OKC 1st to MEM for Aldama and Kennard
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1843 » by LeTimmAy » Tue Dec 31, 2024 3:50 pm

Would give 2 frp for these two
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1844 » by mjkvol » Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:16 pm

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youngcrev wrote:Just trying to come up with a McCain deal that I'd actually find intriguing:

Bones of a deal: Paul George/McCain for Kevin Durant (would require more players and looping in a 3rd team to make a legal deal between these 2 teams, but KD does make more than PG, so they can get around the aggregation part by making 2 separate deals on their end)

A lot of caveats here. KD would need to ask out with the Suns wanting to continue to be competitive for this to be viable. Need to find a 3rd team to eat a small amount of salary also.

I'd be worried about KD's health here, but that dude is still a killer.

Unrealistic as hell, but whatever


The Jared deals just make no sense for the team overall, and ones that may make sense are unlikely for reasons outside of Sixers control. Such as Durant needing to ask out and the Suns wanting George.

That pretty much is the problem for all the veteran superstar guys.... Even if they are unhappy... Would that team want George?

No young players makes sense to me. Like I've seen Coby White, intriguing, but I wouldn't make that trade for Jared and KJ for instance.


Herb Jones is really the only intriguing name I've heard mentioned. And even then, I'd rather overpay in picks if necessary if it meant keeping McCain.

I like Coby White, I just don't think he's a great fit with Maxey, and don't think he's good enough to give up McCain regardless.


I wouldn't include McCain or any of the 1st's in a trade other than for someone like Murray or Jones that are more than rentals. But I'd give up McCain in a deal for either of those two in a heartbeat.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1845 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Wed Jan 1, 2025 7:21 am

Mccain is replace level skill set and fit. I would sell high and get a young piece that fixes maxey long term fixes some weakness we need to address.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1846 » by youngcrev » Wed Jan 1, 2025 2:01 pm

The Bulls are supposedly open to moving Patrick Williams now. He's on a flat 18M/year deal, is still only 23 years old, and checks some boxes as a guy that can shoot catch and shoot 3s, defend, and provide some secondary rim protection.

And yet... That dude just seems like he's got some Ayton to him. The reality doesn't live up to the player on paper.

I don't think I'd trade for him, but he's a guy I'd convince myself of just needing a change of scenery if we actually did trade for him.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1847 » by youngcrev » Wed Jan 1, 2025 2:30 pm

KJ Martin, Drummond, Jackson, Gordon, OKC 1st
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Patrick Williams

I guess losing Drummond somewhat hurts, but it seems like Yabu is clearly the better option at the backup 5, particularly for the playoffs.

I'm not a Williams guy in general (hence the middling offer), but having him to go along with George/Martin/Oubre gives them some really good wing defensive options to match up with the Cs, and he's a good enough shooter to not worry about playing with Martin/Oubre.

Need some buyout juice at guard (kinda need that regardless). DLo? Brogdon?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1848 » by zaz102 » Wed Jan 1, 2025 3:01 pm

A Lakers fan proposed a Reaves for McCain + KJ Martin trade as part of a bigger Fox to Lakers deal.

Still wouldn't do it, but probably one of the more intriguing McCain trade proposals I read.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1849 » by NearingZero » Wed Jan 1, 2025 3:14 pm

youngcrev wrote:Need some buyout juice at guard (kinda need that regardless). DLo? Brogdon?

Both make too much. Sixers are restricted to guys who made no more than the $13M MLE before being bought out.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1850 » by zaz102 » Wed Jan 1, 2025 4:54 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Mccain is replace level skill set and fit. I would sell high and get a young piece that fixes maxey long term fixes some weakness we need to address.
I think you are severely underrating McCain. At 20, he's locked into a rookie deal and can playmake and be a catch and shoot player. Not too mention, his strength coming in was his attitude, work ethic, and ability to work on the little things. I wouldn't be surprised in a few years that he is the best defender for his size.

Of course, his size is the limiting factor and pairing with Maxey, but it will be difficult to get a player close to similar value (skill level and salary).
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1851 » by Negrodamus » Wed Jan 1, 2025 5:21 pm

zaz102 wrote:
LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Mccain is replace level skill set and fit. I would sell high and get a young piece that fixes maxey long term fixes some weakness we need to address.
I think you are severely underrating McCain. At 20, he's locked into a rookie deal and can playmake and be a catch and shoot player. Not too mention, his strength coming in was his attitude, work ethic, and ability to work on the little things. I wouldn't be surprised in a few years that he is the best defender for his size.

Of course, his size is the limiting factor and pairing with Maxey, but it will be difficult to get a player close to similar value (skill level and salary).


Yea I don’t get it, should we have traded Maxey when he was displaying “replace level skill”? Then we wouldn’t see him become the superstar he has currently become. It’s like GSW trading Curry to find a better fit for (a much better) Monta Ellis. Not projecting McCain to be Curry, but why would you risk trading him when he has displayed superstar potential?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1852 » by the_process » Wed Jan 1, 2025 7:20 pm

zaz102 wrote:A Lakers fan proposed a Reaves for McCain + KJ Martin trade as part of a bigger Fox to Lakers deal.

Still wouldn't do it, but probably one of the more intriguing McCain trade proposals I read.


If the Sixers get involved in a Fox to LA trade… Keegan Murray needs to be coming here. Will take a bad contract to facilitate that if necessary as well, which should help considering the Lakers will be trying to pawn off multiple bad contracts on Sacto to match Fox’s money.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1853 » by stormi » Wed Jan 1, 2025 7:29 pm

zaz102 wrote:A Lakers fan proposed a Reaves for McCain + KJ Martin trade as part of a bigger Fox to Lakers deal.

Still wouldn't do it, but probably one of the more intriguing McCain trade proposals I read.


Austin Reaves would bring much needed scoring and offense initiation ability as another playmaking guard proto. Only con is the fact that he's so exploitable defensively even at 6'5. We'd have the personnel to protect him though I guess with Embiid/Martin/Oubre/George.

He's an extremely smart basketball player and a high level decision maker and would elevate our S5, would prefer a wing, but wouldn't hate a Reaves acquisition.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1854 » by Arsenal » Wed Jan 1, 2025 8:07 pm

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zaz102 wrote:A Lakers fan proposed a Reaves for McCain + KJ Martin trade as part of a bigger Fox to Lakers deal.

Still wouldn't do it, but probably one of the more intriguing McCain trade proposals I read.


Austin Reaves would bring much needed scoring and offense initiation ability as another playmaking guard proto. Only con is the fact that he's so exploitable defensively even at 6'5. We'd have the personnel to protect him though I guess with Embiid/Martin/Oubre/George.

He's an extremely smart basketball player and a high level decision maker and would elevate our S5, would prefer a wing, but wouldn't hate a Reaves acquisition.


Reaves would be great here but I'm not trading McCain for him. McCain will be a better player than Reaves as soon as next year, and by year 3 at worst.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1855 » by the_process » Wed Jan 1, 2025 8:08 pm

Definitely had to play around balancing the money and roster spots on this one.


Lakers get Fox, Baldwin, and Valanciunas
Sixers get Murray, Hayes, and Hood-Schifino
Kings get McCain, KJM, Hachimura, Reaves, 28 PHI 1st, 29 LAL 1st, 31 LAL 1st
Wizards get Gordon, Vincent, O. Robinson, and 26 OKC 1st
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Post#1856 » by WentzerWuver » Wed Jan 1, 2025 11:27 pm

the_process wrote:Definitely had to play around balancing the money and roster spots on this one.


Lakers get Fox, Baldwin, and Valanciunas
Sixers get Murray, Hayes, and Hood-Schifino
Kings get McCain, KJM, Hachimura, Reaves, 28 PHI 1st, 29 LAL 1st, 31 LAL 1st

Wizards get Gordon, Vincent, O. Robinson, and 26 OKC 1st
You are obviously a Kings fan if you want this trade to happen. I take that over the crap you sent us.

I would just sign this player outright cause he has the best low post game in the league and is still active. Passing on him cause his game is outdated is no different than saying prime Duncan's game is outdated too.

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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1857 » by the_process » Thu Jan 2, 2025 1:25 am

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the_process wrote:Definitely had to play around balancing the money and roster spots on this one.


Lakers get Fox, Baldwin, and Valanciunas
Sixers get Murray, Hayes, and Hood-Schifino
Kings get McCain, KJM, Hachimura, Reaves, 28 PHI 1st, 29 LAL 1st, 31 LAL 1st

Wizards get Gordon, Vincent, O. Robinson, and 26 OKC 1st
You are obviously a Kings fan if you want this trade to happen. I take that over the crap you sent us.

I would just sign this player outright cause he has the best low post game in the league and is still active. Passing on him cause his game is outdated is no different than saying prime Duncan's game is outdated too.

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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1858 » by phifans » Thu Jan 2, 2025 2:57 am

No all star back no McCain out. Period.

Some of your guys are just insane. Maxey would have been traded 1000X times in his rookie season if some of you are the GM of this team.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1859 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Thu Jan 2, 2025 5:19 am

Maxey has elite speed , athleticism and can shoot it. Also, the franchise timing for a factor we don't need Mccains timeline or skill set with maxey.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#1860 » by the_process » Thu Jan 2, 2025 3:48 pm

phifans wrote:No all star back no McCain out. Period.

Some of your guys are just insane. Maxey would have been traded 1000X times in his rookie season if some of you are the GM of this team.


Keegan Murray has the potential to be a future All-Star.

If you'd rather trade Maxey, let's hear it.

Maxey and McCain is not a long term backcourt, but I don't think anyone wants to give either one away.

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