General 76ers Thread

[76ciology]

http://bballbreakdown.com/2016/11/17/the-thursday-breakdown-do-the-76ers-or-timberwolves-have-the-brighter-future/
Wolves core vs Sixers core

[TTP]

http://bballbreakdown.com/2016/11/17/the-thursday-breakdown-do-the-76ers-or-timberwolves-have-the-brighter-future/
Wolves core vs Sixers core

Ridiculous to exclude Noel and Okafor (as much as I dislike him) when naming each team's keepers, especially when they're mentioning Dieng, though I agree with their conclusion. I'm also lower on both Wiggins and Dunn than they are. Definitely disagree with Sharon Brown's claim that "Wiggins, Towns and LaVine have a brighter outlook than anyone on the 76ers roster". Embiid and Simmons both have brighter outlooks than the latter two and, while I have Towns above Embiid now, Embiid is certainly closer to Towns than any other prospect in the NBA.

[TTP]

ESPN finally released their RPM rankings for this season (updated this morning): http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM

Here's how Sixers players grade:

Sergio - 41/79 for PGs
TJ - 47/79 for PGs

Henderson - 29/93 for SGs
Stauskas - 76/93 for SGs (32/93 ORPM, 91/93 DRPM)
Luwawu - 79/93 for SGs (85/93 ORPM, 49/93 DRPM

Covington - 18/75 for SFs (46/75 ORPM, 3rd DRPM behind Thabo and MKG)
Hollis - 40/75 for SFs (24/75 ORPM, 68/75 DRPM, up from 62/65 overall for SFs last season)
Jerami Grant - 75/75 for SFs (second to last in both ORPM and DRPM, Wiggins actually last DRPM)

Holmes - 35/93 for PFs (probably listed there using last year's position, needs to be adjusted)
Ilyasova - 41/93 for PFs
Saric - 90/93 for PFs (89/93 DRPM)

Embiid - 34/65
Okafor - 54/65 (55/65 ORPM, 40/65 DRPM)

-Sergio and TJ both rate as mediocre backup quality.
-Absolutely shocked Henderson grades this well.
-Unfortunate that Stauskas is still this low because of his atrocious defense, but his offensive improvement has been huge.
-Interesting that Covington is still as high as he is on offense despite his shooting struggles. 3rd again in DRPM for SFs.
-Big improvement from Hollis overall.
-Holmes crushing the advanced stats this year no matter what metric you use. Needs more minutes.
-Saric is grading terribly
-About what we should expect from Embiid. He's still a work in progress on both ends.
-Nice to see Okafor's defensive improvement though still a long way to go on both ends (still considerably better than last year).

[CoreyGallagher]

Hollis seems to be the only Sixers' player with a positive ORPM, lol.

[TTP]

Hollis seems to be the only Sixers' player with a positive ORPM, lol.

Holmes does too but I'm not sure if his numbers change if he's listed at C. His ORPM would be 18th for Centers.

Stauskas too.

Edit: By positive I mean relative to positional average. It's difficult for big men to have a positive ORPM and difficult for smalls to have a positive DRPM. Thus I just compare to the positional median to determine whether someone is a positive or a negative.

[CoreyGallagher]

Hollis seems to be the only Sixers' player with a positive ORPM, lol.

Holmes does too but I'm not sure if his numbers change if he's listed at C. His ORPM would be 18th for Centers.

Stauskas too.

Good catch. Got to say, players are ranked higher than I expected them to be.

[TTP]

Worst rated player in the NBA is Evan Turner

[76ciology]

Players' emotion determining on court effort.

I read that Magic players' negative performance on D (they were one of the worst D team despite Ibaka+Biyombo addition) were because players were frustrated with Aaron Gordon and Payton struggle on shooting. And this goes back to like when Kobe was jacking up mid range shots on fastbreak that frustrated lakers bigs like Shaq and Bynum.

And I wonder if Jah&Biid's ISO+TO heavy games and RoCo + other perimeter players' shooting struggle lead to poor body language and low energy level from them on court.

We all play ball and the adrenaline and over team energy level is much better when everyone is in sync. I do think Biid/Jah prefers to play in a different offense than others, and as human beings we don't fully cooperate when other beliefs is different from ours. It's something stats/analytics can't put into numbers.

Simply said, when things aren't going our way, our players aren't emotionally mature enough to fight through it and most times they give in to their frustrations that leads to in game breakdowns.

[eagereyez]

Biggest takeaway for me is that Porzingis is 3rd in RPM among PF's, 15th overall. Oh, what could have been...

[76ciology]

Read on Twitter

Slowly building up to a perfect set-up for Simmons

[freshie2]

I hope pompey is simply forced to produce 'x' number of articles per week. His take on the sixers lack of progress is conceptually short sighted...how can you gauge their progress without seeing Simmons, Bayless or Noel? He mentions it, but their absence negates the entire topic. I certainly hope he is able to support his family, but having him as the main 'writer/blogger' for the sixers is depressing...time for a change.

[OleSchool]

I've been doing some thinking and I don’t think we are too far off from being competitive in the East, maybe in the next year/year and a half. This potential lineup is based off a few things.

1) This is the “real” Nik
2) Roco goes back to his shooting averages
3) Noel’s market isn’t there and he resigns with us
4) Sergio resigns with us


Starters
C – Embiid
PF – Simmons
SF- draft pick/or trade
SG – Bayless/Henderson
PG – Draft pick/ or trade

Bench
C - Noel
PF - Saric
SF - Roco
SG - Nik
PG Sergio

Reserves
C- Holmes
PF - Ersan (assuming he resigns)
SF - Hollis
SG - TLC/Henderson
PG - TJ


So its looking like the odd man/men out would be Henderson/Bayless/TLC/OK4. There's obviously going to be a some DNP coaches decision, but I'm thinking that's a pretty deep and versatile team. Even if Ersan doesn't resign with us Holmes can be the 3rd string C/PF

[HartfordWhalers]

I'm done with Sergio by February. If he is back next year it is a bad sign.

[76ciology]

I've been doing some thinking and I don’t think we are too far off from being competitive in the East, maybe in the next year/year and a half. This potential lineup is based off a few things.

1) This is the “real” Nik
2) Roco goes back to his shooting averages
3) Noel’s market isn’t there and he resigns with us
4) Sergio resigns with us


Starters
C – Embiid
PF – Simmons
SF- draft pick/or trade
SG – Bayless/Henderson
PG – Draft pick/ or trade

Bench
C - Noel
PF - Saric
SF - Roco
SG - Nik
PG Sergio

Reserves
C- Holmes
PF - Ersan (assuming he resigns)
SF - Hollis
SG - TLC/Henderson
PG - TJ


So its looking like the odd man/men out would be Henderson/Bayless/TLC/OK4. There's obviously going to be a some DNP coaches decision, but I'm thinking that's a pretty deep and versatile team. Even if Ersan doesn't resign with us Holmes can be the 3rd string C/PF

Definitely we're not off that far from being competitive in the east.

Just need for our main guys to be more efficient in creating good looks on offense when opponents defense collapse while being less TO prone. Then we let our shooters (including much welcomed stretch 4s and reborned Nik) to shoot 35-40% with volume.

Defensively, RoCo and Jah has shown improvements on D. Hopefully it continues to trend upwards. Then Simmons also become a good impact wing defender along with Biid.

Really in good position. Just needs to take time in player/chemistry development. Better position than most rebuilding teams awaiting for a high upside player.

[kriss73]

Well, it could be worse

[kriss73]

After 3 years we're not the worst offense in NBA (thanks to Mavs)!!!

[76ciology]

I like how we are slowly having our identity.

Offensively, we are a good shooting team making 10 3s/g at 35%. Comparable to 3pt heavy team like the Blazers.

Good spacing with the stretch 4s, PGs who are good in penetrating and two way wings in Hendo, Hollis and RoCo.

Biid anchors the D and spaces the floor. Okafor and Sauce scoring off the bench.

[TTP]

I like how we are slowly having our identity.

Offensively, we are a good shooting team making 10 3s/g at 35%. Comparable to 3pt heavy team like the Blazers.

Good spacing with the stretch 4s, PGs who are good in penetrating and two way wings in Hendo, Hollis and RoCo.

Biid anchors the D and spaces the floor. Okafor and Sauce scoring off the bench.

Hollis is a one way player. He's graded at or near the bottom of his position defensively since he's been in the league.

[76ciology]

We're 3-2 ever since we replaced Dario with ilyasova in the starting unit.

Created a second unit of TJ, Nik, Hollis, Dario and Jah which is +37.8 NetRtg. Seems like Jah plays well with Dario and Nik (negative offensive player issue) while line-up plays worse when Jah is with RoCo (2 big negative offensive players). Replacing TJ with Sergio in that 2nd unit has just a slight -1 NetRtg which isn't so bad compared to the 2nd unit before the ilyasova-saric replacement.

Small sample size for now.

[MatthewGeigerII]

Who is the 15th man currently? (aka last man in)

TLC? he's a future play so it can't be right?

Nik and Hollis have performed well thus far. so they're out right?

TJ then?