ImageImageImage

Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason

Moderators: HartfordWhalers, BullyKing, Sixerscan, sixers hoops, Foshan

eyeatoma
RealGM
Posts: 29,904
And1: 13,187
Joined: Feb 25, 2005
     

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1861 » by eyeatoma » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:29 am

Kobblehead wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Come on, Daryl. Josh Jackson for the full MLE. Easy decision, make the call.



WTF, gross!

Too late, Detroit.

Not gross, Jackson is an elite defensive player with shotcreating abilities. Maybe he doesn't have the intangibles to fufill his star potential, but he can still salvage his career and be an excellent playoff contributor given those defensive and shotcreating abilities he possesses.


We need players that aren't headcases. Already got Dwight.
youngcrev
RealGM
Posts: 28,786
And1: 9,699
Joined: Jun 12, 2005
Location: Philadelphia(ish)
   

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1862 » by youngcrev » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:30 am

Arsenal wrote:Denver may be getting Blake Griffin back in S&T for Plumlee and Grant. If he's healthy they're dangerous. He's never healthy though.


Is that actually something that's being discussed or your own speculation?
Kobblehead
RealGM
Posts: 40,844
And1: 20,003
Joined: Apr 15, 2010
 

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1863 » by Kobblehead » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:30 am

eyeatoma wrote:We need players that aren't headcases. Already got Dwight.

I don't disagree. I also don't mind undertaking a reclamation project now and again. Especially since Morey has had success with some of those guys in the past.
eyeatoma
RealGM
Posts: 29,904
And1: 13,187
Joined: Feb 25, 2005
     

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1864 » by eyeatoma » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:31 am

Kobblehead wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:We need players that aren't headcases. Already got Dwight.

I don't disagree. I also don't mind undertaking a reclamation project now and again. Especially since Morey has had success with some of those guys in the past.


Would much rather use that spot for a quality back up PG, or a wing who can score that's not a headcase.
sixers hoops
Senior Mod - 76ers
Senior Mod - 76ers
Posts: 10,081
And1: 3,529
Joined: Jun 28, 2002

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1865 » by sixers hoops » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:32 am

Arsenal wrote:Denver may be getting Blake Griffin back in S&T for Plumlee and Grant. If he's healthy they're dangerous. He's never healthy though.


That’s a good team on paper. Interesting to see how they mesh two star bigs.
Kobblehead
RealGM
Posts: 40,844
And1: 20,003
Joined: Apr 15, 2010
 

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1866 » by Kobblehead » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:33 am

Why did we waste our Richardson dump on Seth Curry when we probably could have gotten Gary Harris from Denver?
eyeatoma
RealGM
Posts: 29,904
And1: 13,187
Joined: Feb 25, 2005
     

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1867 » by eyeatoma » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:35 am

Whoooooha, Wall wants out of Houston... Might be a chance to get Harden or Beal. Tobi for Beal hahah I know I'm dreaming, but Beal will be available...
User avatar
Arsenal
RealGM
Posts: 17,105
And1: 11,998
Joined: Jun 05, 2002
Location: Arlington, VA
 

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1868 » by Arsenal » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:35 am

Kobblehead wrote:Why did we waste our Richardson dump on Seth Curry when we probably could have gotten Gary Harris from Denver?


Because unlike you Morey values guys who can shoot. We'd much rather have Seth at $8M/per instead of Harris at $19M/per, especially since Harris is a below avg shooter.
User avatar
Arsenal
RealGM
Posts: 17,105
And1: 11,998
Joined: Jun 05, 2002
Location: Arlington, VA
 

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1869 » by Arsenal » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:35 am

eyeatoma wrote:Whoooooha, Wall wants out of Houston... Might be a chance to get Harden or Beal. Tobi for Beal hahah I know I'm dreaming, but Beal will be available...


You mean Wall wants out of Washington?
mithrandir17
Veteran
Posts: 2,908
And1: 1,678
Joined: Jan 30, 2017
 

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1870 » by mithrandir17 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:37 am

Arsenal wrote:Denver may be getting Blake Griffin back in S&T for Plumlee and Grant. If he's healthy they're dangerous. He's never healthy though.

I've never seen two players signed in S&T. Is that even possible?
User avatar
Arsenal
RealGM
Posts: 17,105
And1: 11,998
Joined: Jun 05, 2002
Location: Arlington, VA
 

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1871 » by Arsenal » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:39 am

mithrandir17 wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Denver may be getting Blake Griffin back in S&T for Plumlee and Grant. If he's healthy they're dangerous. He's never healthy though.

I've never seen two players signed in S&T. Is that even possible?


Sure it is.
Kobblehead
RealGM
Posts: 40,844
And1: 20,003
Joined: Apr 15, 2010
 

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1872 » by Kobblehead » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:39 am

Arsenal wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Why did we waste our Richardson dump on Seth Curry when we probably could have gotten Gary Harris from Denver?


Because unlike you Morey values guys who can shoot. We'd much rather have Seth at $8M/per instead of Harris at $19M/per, especially since Harris is a below avg shooter.

Gary Harris is significantly better than Seth Curry and it's not even close lol.

Also, Harris once shot 40% from three over a 121 game stretch (2.1 makes on 5.2 attempts per game). He can make shots. And he can actually defend on the other end and not get abused like a ragdoll.
davesilver
Junior
Posts: 452
And1: 255
Joined: Aug 14, 2020
     

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1873 » by davesilver » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:39 am

sixers hoops wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Denver may be getting Blake Griffin back in S&T for Plumlee and Grant. If he's healthy they're dangerous. He's never healthy though.


That’s a good team on paper. Interesting to see how they mesh two star bigs.


Murray - Harris - MPJ - Blake - Jokic

Everyone can run point. That is a fascinating team
sixers hoops
Senior Mod - 76ers
Senior Mod - 76ers
Posts: 10,081
And1: 3,529
Joined: Jun 28, 2002

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1874 » by sixers hoops » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:40 am

eyeatoma wrote:Whoooooha, Wall wants out of Houston... Might be a chance to get Harden or Beal. Tobi for Beal hahah I know I'm dreaming, but Beal will be available...


I’m not seeing the cause and effect. Wall wants to be traded, and somehow that nets us Harden or Beal?
User avatar
Arsenal
RealGM
Posts: 17,105
And1: 11,998
Joined: Jun 05, 2002
Location: Arlington, VA
 

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1875 » by Arsenal » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:40 am

Kobblehead wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Why did we waste our Richardson dump on Seth Curry when we probably could have gotten Gary Harris from Denver?


Because unlike you Morey values guys who can shoot. We'd much rather have Seth at $8M/per instead of Harris at $19M/per, especially since Harris is a below avg shooter.

Gary Harris is significantly better than Seth Curry and it's not even close lol.

Also, Harris once shot 40% from three over a 121 game stretch. He can make shots. And he can actually defend on the other end and not get abused like a ragdoll.


Harris has been a bad shooter the last two years. Morey is bringing in good shooters, not bad shooters. Sorry.
Skates
Head Coach
Posts: 7,307
And1: 3,851
Joined: Feb 18, 2008
       

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1876 » by Skates » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:42 am

Curry’s 3 years left at $8 mil per year are a major bargain compared to the prices we are seeing even in a tight market. Cost certainty for 3 years at a reasonable number for a top notch shooter is incredibly valuable.
Kobblehead
RealGM
Posts: 40,844
And1: 20,003
Joined: Apr 15, 2010
 

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1877 » by Kobblehead » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:44 am

Arsenal wrote:Morey is bringing in good shooters, not bad shooters. Sorry.


You don't know what Morey will or will not do. He just drafted a kid that shot 29% from three in the first round that will probably never shoot beyond the 34-36% range in the NBA.
Kobblehead
RealGM
Posts: 40,844
And1: 20,003
Joined: Apr 15, 2010
 

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1878 » by Kobblehead » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:45 am

Skates wrote:Curry’s 3 years left at $8 mil per year are a major bargain compared to the prices we are seeing even in a tight market. Cost certainty for 3 years at a reasonable number for a top notch shooter is incredibly valuable.

Especially as a throw in for a later trade.
User avatar
Arsenal
RealGM
Posts: 17,105
And1: 11,998
Joined: Jun 05, 2002
Location: Arlington, VA
 

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1879 » by Arsenal » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:45 am

Kobblehead wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Morey is bringing in good shooters, not bad shooters. Sorry.


You don't know what Morey will or will not do. He just drafted a kid that shot 29% from three in the first round that will probably never shoot beyond the 34-36% range in the NBA.


I know Morey traded for Seth Curry and not Gary Harris like you wanted.
sixers hoops
Senior Mod - 76ers
Senior Mod - 76ers
Posts: 10,081
And1: 3,529
Joined: Jun 28, 2002

Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#1880 » by sixers hoops » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:45 am

davesilver wrote:
sixers hoops wrote:
Arsenal wrote:Denver may be getting Blake Griffin back in S&T for Plumlee and Grant. If he's healthy they're dangerous. He's never healthy though.


That’s a good team on paper. Interesting to see how they mesh two star bigs.


Murray - Harris - MPJ - Blake - Jokic

Everyone can run point. That is a fascinating team


That’s a lot of firepower to throw at Lakers, clips, etc., and Murray developing in that closer role.

Return to Philadelphia 76ers