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Re: Okafor trade talk: Will he be traded by the deadline? 

Post#1881 » by eagereyez » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:12 am

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I'd bet a million dollars against that happening. Hield has been one of the worst players in the NBA this season. Sacramento becomes considerably worse after this trade. Just sucks that they have a cake walk the rest of the way. Then again they're only 5 games ahead of the Lakers, and many of the lotto teams are still fighting for a playoff spot. Colangelo needs to get Vivek on the phone immediately and work out a deal to send them Okafor.


Except that they're now in prospect/pick acquiring mode. They have literally almost nothing worth offering that we would want. The only thing they might even have a glimpse of is big men, so I can't see why they would even consider a deal for Okafor.

Well they did just acquire a lightly protected 2017 1st from the Pels that will probably become a mid 1st thanks to Cousins. Hinkie would be all over that if he were still here.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Will he be traded by the deadline? 

Post#1882 » by ckchen » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:20 am

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eagereyez wrote:I'd bet a million dollars against that happening. Hield has been one of the worst players in the NBA this season. Sacramento becomes considerably worse after this trade. Just sucks that they have a cake walk the rest of the way. Then again they're only 5 games ahead of the Lakers, and many of the lotto teams are still fighting for a playoff spot. Colangelo needs to get Vivek on the phone immediately and work out a deal to send them Okafor.


Except that they're now in prospect/pick acquiring mode. They have literally almost nothing worth offering that we would want. The only thing they might even have a glimpse of is big men, so I can't see why they would even consider a deal for Okafor.

Well they did just acquire a lightly protected 2017 1st from the Pels that will probably become a mid 1st thanks to Cousins. Hinkie would be all over that if he were still here.


Yeha, but they traded that pick as a huge part of the return for Cousins. I mean, it's possible they could ty and sell Hield and Okafor as the only return for Cousins, but that would be even sadder, I think. Given how much Sacramento already owes us, I would be hard pressed to think they would add to the pile in order to acquire to Okafor when they have big man prospects of their own (WCS, Labissiere, Papagiannis) already in hand.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Will he be traded by the deadline? 

Post#1883 » by eagereyez » Mon Feb 20, 2017 7:29 am

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Except that they're now in prospect/pick acquiring mode. They have literally almost nothing worth offering that we would want. The only thing they might even have a glimpse of is big men, so I can't see why they would even consider a deal for Okafor.

Well they did just acquire a lightly protected 2017 1st from the Pels that will probably become a mid 1st thanks to Cousins. Hinkie would be all over that if he were still here.


Yeha, but they traded that pick as a huge part of the return for Cousins. I mean, it's possible they could ty and sell Hield and Okafor as the only return for Cousins, but that would be even sadder, I think. Given how much Sacramento already owes us, I would be hard pressed to think they would add to the pile in order to acquire to Okafor when they have big man prospects of their own (WCS, Labissiere, Papagiannis) already in hand.

They just traded Demarcus Cousins for Buddy Hield and a top 3 protected NOP 1st that will likely end up late lotto. Anything is possible with Vlade and Vivek.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Will he be traded by the deadline? 

Post#1884 » by LongLiveHinkie » Mon Feb 20, 2017 8:14 am

Ramona said Pels wanted the pick to the Sixers to be top 20 protected.

If BC turned it down, I can see it if it eventually turned into a mere 2nd rounder down the road or something, because at top 20 protected, no way we saw that pick this year.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Will he be traded by the deadline? 

Post#1885 » by kriss73 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 9:58 am

What a funny League!

I can't believe that Okafor has near to nothing value and Hield can bring you Boogie. LOL
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Will he be traded by the deadline? 

Post#1886 » by mithrandir17 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:11 am

Will Sacramento agree to trade collison for okafor?
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Post#1887 » by tsmith » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:20 am

Something around Okafor for worse of Kings and Pelicans pick would be nice.
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Post#1888 » by hookshot199 » Mon Feb 20, 2017 11:34 am

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NYSixersFan wrote:Not buying they offered Tyreke and two picks for Okafor....fake news!


I guess Tyreke, lotto protected first, and a 2017 second is plausible. Demps has made some bad trades in his day.

We ultimately win the trade more by not making it, tho.


The 2019 Sacramento pick is looking much better.
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Post#1889 » by OleSchool » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:10 pm

mithrandir17 wrote:Will Sacramento agree to trade collison for okafor?



That's kind of my thinking
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Post#1890 » by Wilfried » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:20 pm

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mithrandir17 wrote:Will Sacramento agree to trade collison for okafor?


That's kind of my thinking


Why would we do that?
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Post#1891 » by 51X3RF4N » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:32 pm

I could absolutely see the kings trying to trade for Okafor now. They'd be selling their fans on having a younger 20ppg Center with no drama or locker room issues. This kid handled the Philly situation like a pro. Build around the new SG Buddy and C Jah.

They might want to shed some salary, pick up Jah, and call it a day.

So...something like Koufos, Malachi Richardson (they've got Buddy now so Richardson is expendable), and a 2021 unprotected 1st for Okafor.

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Post#1892 » by OleSchool » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:34 pm

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mithrandir17 wrote:Will Sacramento agree to trade collison for okafor?


That's kind of my thinking


Why would we do that?


to get a guard in here for the rest of the year, get OK4 out of here, and I think Collision is a FA.
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Re: Okafor trade talk: Will he be traded by the deadline? 

Post#1893 » by Wilfried » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:41 pm

OleSchool wrote:
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OleSchool wrote:
That's kind of my thinking


Why would we do that?


to get a guard in here for the rest of the year, get OK4 out of here, and I think Collision is a FA.


So again, why would we do that?

You don't throw Okafor away like a bag of dirt.
He can still have value, maybe not this season but we still have him very cheap the next 2 seasons.

We trade him for 2 months of Darren Collison, please :crazy:
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Post#1894 » by OleSchool » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:52 pm

Wilfried wrote:
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Why would we do that?


to get a guard in here for the rest of the year, get OK4 out of here, and I think Collision is a FA.


So again, why would we do that?

You don't throw Okafor away like a bag of dirt.
He can still have value, maybe not this season but we still have him very cheap the next 2 seasons.

We trade him for 2 months of Darren Collison, please :crazy:


Oh, ok you like OK4 now I understand why you wouldnt do this.

Its not just Collision, its the Kings unprotected pick this year. if the LAL pick conveys we could have 3 picks in the top 10
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Post#1895 » by Wilfried » Mon Feb 20, 2017 12:57 pm

OleSchool wrote:
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to get a guard in here for the rest of the year, get OK4 out of here, and I think Collision is a FA.


So again, why would we do that?

You don't throw Okafor away like a bag of dirt.
He can still have value, maybe not this season but we still have him very cheap the next 2 seasons.

We trade him for 2 months of Darren Collison, please :crazy:


Oh, ok you like OK4 now I understand why you wouldnt do this.

Its not just Collision, its the Kings unprotected pick this year. if the LAL pick conveys we could have 3 picks in the top 10


No, it's about patience.

It's about the fact that Buddy Hield can net you DeMarcus Cousins.

It's about the fact that maybe Chicago want to offer a lot more for Okafor.

It's also about the fact that Darren Collison is not a difference maker, so he won't win that much extra games for Sacramento.
I can believe Cleveland (and other teams) being interested in him too (as a secondary playmaker). Why would we give up Okafor for him?
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Post#1896 » by OleSchool » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:03 pm

Wilfried wrote:
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So again, why would we do that?

You don't throw Okafor away like a bag of dirt.
He can still have value, maybe not this season but we still have him very cheap the next 2 seasons.

We trade him for 2 months of Darren Collison, please :crazy:


Oh, ok you like OK4 now I understand why you wouldnt do this.

Its not just Collision, its the Kings unprotected pick this year. if the LAL pick conveys we could have 3 picks in the top 10


No, it's about patience.

It's about the fact that Buddy Hield can net you DeMarcus Cousins.


Only when Valde/Randive are the owner and Gm. Please dont think that is the real value

Wilfried wrote:It's also about the fact that Darren Collison is not a difference maker, so he won't win that much extra games for Sacramento.
I can believe Cleveland (and other teams) being interested in him too (as a secondary playmaker). Why would we give up Okafor for him?


Fine, then dont take Collision back, take Mclemore. Its about us getting and unprotected lottery pick this year instead of 2019.

*edit*

you really think we're getting a difference maker for OK4?? the rumored trade was Val or McDermott and a mid-late first for OK4. where is the difference maker in that trade??
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Post#1897 » by spikeslovechild » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:13 pm

OleSchool wrote:
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Oh, ok you like OK4 now I understand why you wouldnt do this.

Its not just Collision, its the Kings unprotected pick this year. if the LAL pick conveys we could have 3 picks in the top 10


No, it's about patience.

It's about the fact that Buddy Hield can net you DeMarcus Cousins.


Only when Valde/Randive are the owner and Gm. Please dont think that is the real value

Wilfried wrote:It's also about the fact that Darren Collison is not a difference maker, so he won't win that much extra games for Sacramento.
I can believe Cleveland (and other teams) being interested in him too (as a secondary playmaker). Why would we give up Okafor for him?


Fine, then dont take Collision back, take Mclemore. Its about us getting and unprotected lottery pick this year instead of 2019.

*edit*

you really think we're getting a difference maker for OK4?? the rumored trade was Val or McDermott and a mid-late first for OK4. where is the difference maker in that trade??


I'd rather take WCS back and trade Noel in a separate deal.
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Post#1898 » by Wilfried » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:15 pm

OleSchool wrote:
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Oh, ok you like OK4 now I understand why you wouldnt do this.

Its not just Collision, its the Kings unprotected pick this year. if the LAL pick conveys we could have 3 picks in the top 10


No, it's about patience.

It's about the fact that Buddy Hield can net you DeMarcus Cousins.


Only when Valde/Randive are the owner and Gm. Please dont think that is the real value

Wilfried wrote:It's also about the fact that Darren Collison is not a difference maker, so he won't win that much extra games for Sacramento.
I can believe Cleveland (and other teams) being interested in him too (as a secondary playmaker). Why would we give up Okafor for him?


Fine, then dont take Collision back, take Mclemore. Its about us getting and unprotected lottery pick this year instead of 2019.

*edit*

you really think we're getting a difference maker for OK4?? the rumored trade was Val or McDermott and a mid-late first for OK4. where is the difference maker in that trade??


I'm not saying Okafor will net us a difference maker (please read what I write).
I'm saying leaving Collison in Sacramento won't make a big difference in wins for Sacramento, so to me it's not worth throwing Okafor away for 3 more losses this season in Sacramento. Hell, maybe Okafor nets them 4 more W's instead.

We have an unprotected lottery pick this season (ours or Sac's). Why are you completely overreacting now and throwing away assets (yes, he still is, look at the value of a Buddy Hield) for nothing?
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Post#1899 » by PhilasFinest » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:21 pm

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Post#1900 » by OleSchool » Mon Feb 20, 2017 1:25 pm

Wilfried wrote:
OleSchool wrote:
Wilfried wrote:
No, it's about patience.

It's about the fact that Buddy Hield can net you DeMarcus Cousins.


Only when Valde/Randive are the owner and Gm. Please dont think that is the real value

Wilfried wrote:It's also about the fact that Darren Collison is not a difference maker, so he won't win that much extra games for Sacramento.
I can believe Cleveland (and other teams) being interested in him too (as a secondary playmaker). Why would we give up Okafor for him?


Fine, then dont take Collision back, take Mclemore. Its about us getting and unprotected lottery pick this year instead of 2019.

*edit*

you really think we're getting a difference maker for OK4?? the rumored trade was Val or McDermott and a mid-late first for OK4. where is the difference maker in that trade??


I'm not saying Okafor will net us a difference maker (please read what I write).
I'm saying leaving Collison in Sacramento won't make a big difference in wins for Sacramento, so to me it's not worth throwing Okafor away for 3 more losses this season in Sacramento. Hell, maybe Okafor nets them 4 more W's instead.

We have an unprotected lottery pick this season (ours or Sac's). Why are you completely overreacting now and throwing away assets (yes, he still is, look at the value of a Buddy Hield) for nothing?


I dont think im overracting. Im asking a question as to whether you would do that trade to end up with 3 unprotected picks this year (if the LAL pick conveys).

You obviously wouldnt cause you believe OK4 has value.

I would be on the fence with this trade. I could go wither way but, I like the idea of having 3 unprotected lottery picks in a draft that so guard and wing heavy.
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