The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III

[nurseryc]

Well you guys have got your wish as Simmons is only sixth amongst East guards in voting in the first returns for All Star votes. He definitely won’t be starting and will more than likely now not make it as a reserve.

[Mik317]

good.

I don't hate Ben like some but dude needs to get the message that his way isn't getting it done right now.

[TorturedFan76]

good.

I don't hate Ben like some but dude needs to get the message that his way isn't getting it done right now.

Ever since day one he had the attitude like he has already arrived. Like not following the rookie tradition of going for Chick-fil-a for the team because he was the #1 overall pick. Mr Big Shot is above doing something everyone other rookie has done and just pays a peon to go do it for him.
I think the worst thing that ever happened to him was making the all-star team. Ben has never added anything or improved any part of his game. And apparently had already lost his love for the game until prior to this season by his own admission. How ridiculous.

[eagereyez]

This is Simmons' fourth year in the NBA. His first year, he broke his foot and Embiid entered his rookie season. During Embiid's rookie year, it became obvious very quickly that he is a monster in the post and the best player on the team. From that point on, the Sixers staff must have told Simmons the obvious - that Embiid, like all great big men in NBA history, is at his best when surrounded by shooters. And in the 3 years since then, how has Simmons responded? By being a complete non-shooter and instead forcing Embiid to accommodate him, an inferior player.

Being the "good" teammate doesn't always work. Simmons isn't responding to positive encouragement. To be frank, Embiid needs to punk him. Either adjust your game to make the team better or leave.

[Wilfried]

You guys need to have patience. Simmons will eventually start taking jump shots and 3s regularly in games. It may be this season, it may be next. When it happens we have the next Lebron. Until then we get a crappy unfinished version that tests our patience. We just have to ride it out as his potential is sky high

LMFAO

4 years since college, and he shoots LESS than he did in college

give it a rest already stan my man

He made more 3's this season alone than college + previous seasons combined ...

[Hogesy]

But but Brett promised me a 3pt shot a game from Ben... Is someone telling me this was a big fat lie? Surely not

Being an Aussie I hate Ben's mindset. Australians are taught to have a good ol-fashioned Aussie crack and thrive on being the underdog. He just doesn't have this mentality. Now at least you could never say that about Delly or Patty Mills. Interesting that those 2 players always represent the Australian side when they can, it's called spirit and heart. It seems unlikely Simmons name will ever be used in that same sentence.

[XDevilBoiX]

Don’t think Ben really cares about making the team again, he already did and that’s what mattered to him. I can see him rather have the time off to spend with his gf.

[Eyeamok]

Don’t think Ben really cares about making the team again, he already did and that’s what mattered to him. I can see him rather have the time off to spend with his gf.

I think quite the opposite. Ben's claim to fame right now is that even though he does not shoot he does everything else well and to prove it look he's even voted as an all star. He is concerned with his stats and how he looks. He won't shoot a lot because he is afraid of looking inadequate if he misses. But the chatter abut his game not improving is growing. And him not making the all star team is just another cold dose of reality. A reality check that he needs in mega doses.

[76ciology]

Imagine him shooting 20-30% on 3s and his FG% dropping to below 45%. That is a 6’10 ricky rubio out there. That will ruin his brand.

Too bad not taking those shots or taking those shots messes up team’s offense either way.

Both Biid and Ben should adjust. Ben should be more aggressive trying to score in the paint while Biid should focus on defense and be more perimeter oriented. That is the realistic short term solution.

[Embiid P]

Don’t think Ben really cares about making the team again, he already did and that’s what mattered to him. I can see him rather have the time off to spend with his gf.

I think quite the opposite. Ben's claim to fame right now is that even though he does not shoot he does everything else well and to prove it look he's even voted as an all star. He is concerned with his stats and how he looks. He won't shoot a lot because he is afraid of looking inadequate if he misses. But the chatter abut his game not improving is growing. And him not making the all star team is just another cold dose of reality. A reality check that he needs in mega doses.

This. Which is why I discourage any and all Sixers fans from voting for him to make the All Star game which I doubt he will anyway. Also, to vote for Embiid and Harris both of whom are much more deserving than he is at this point. If that doesn't light a fire up under his ass to shoot, IDK what will.

[VDT]

https://www.phillyvoice.com/practice-notes-sixers-accountability-joel-embiid-ben-simmons-shot-brett-brown/

[youngcrev]

"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Fosters" - The Most Frustrating Man in the World

[Eyeamok]

Watch on YouTube

I just saw this on Kyle Neubeck Twitter. It's Ben at the start of the season. Look at the 0.09 second mark. When he answer's the question if he is confident about his shot. He says he is but his body language screams that he is not. He does a micro nod no several times and shrugs his shoulders as if to say I don't really know. The mouth says one thing but the brain says another. Oh Ben.

[DMMH]

https://www.phillyvoice.com/practice-notes-sixers-accountability-joel-embiid-ben-simmons-shot-brett-brown/

Ben in NEVER going to shoot cuz it will make him look bad. The sooner they can move on from him the better.

[GuideDog]

Is there any doubt the biggest reason for this team's failures is Ben Simmons? A point guard who can't breakdown defenses in the half court game either by shooting or driving makes life harder for everyone else. I'm not saying Ben isn't talented. He's ridiculously talented. But he is a major liability for us on offense. At least fake like you might shoot it, otherwise it's always 4 on 5 with him on the court. That forces everyone else to work crazy hard to get a good shot. His deficiencies becomes most obvious in the end game senarios.

[XDevilBoiX]

Don’t think Ben really cares about making the team again, he already did and that’s what mattered to him. I can see him rather have the time off to spend with his gf.

I think quite the opposite. Ben's claim to fame right now is that even though he does not shoot he does everything else well and to prove it look he's even voted as an all star. He is concerned with his stats and how he looks. He won't shoot a lot because he is afraid of looking inadequate if he misses. But the chatter abut his game not improving is growing. And him not making the all star team is just another cold dose of reality. A reality check that he needs in mega doses.

Yes he does everything well to his own standard, not enough to lead this team to wins without Embiid. He’s not playing like the year he made the all star, you can see a big difference between the 2 years. His stats are down all around.

Maybe he got the contract extension over the summer so he doesn’t need to play as hard now that he will get paid no matter what.

[Eyeamok]

Don’t think Ben really cares about making the team again, he already did and that’s what mattered to him. I can see him rather have the time off to spend with his gf.

I think quite the opposite. Ben's claim to fame right now is that even though he does not shoot he does everything else well and to prove it look he's even voted as an all star. He is concerned with his stats and how he looks. He won't shoot a lot because he is afraid of looking inadequate if he misses. But the chatter abut his game not improving is growing. And him not making the all star team is just another cold dose of reality. A reality check that he needs in mega doses.

Yes he does everything well to his own standard, not enough to lead this team to wins without Embiid. He’s not playing like the year he made the all star, you can see a big difference between the 2 years. His stats are down all around.

Maybe he got the contract extension over the summer so he doesn’t need to play as hard now that he will get paid no matter what.

I honestly feel he is living off of his past success. He got an extension, voted as an all star, philly fans showing him love, 76ers got rid of Butler to help accommodate him, he still can hang out with Lebron. Everything points to him being a star, he is treated like one, but he probably has a severe lack of self awareness and is surrounded by yes men. As information starts to penetrate his bubble he might just get it. Joel calling him out, Brown asking him to shoot more in the press, Jaylen Brown clowning him for making a 3 point shot, Game of Zones highlighting his lack of shooting, no all start appearance for him, but Joel and maybe Harris go. Something should eventually get through.

The 76ers should have made him work for his extension. Prove something.

[Kobblehead]

Is there any doubt the biggest reason for this team's failures is Ben Simmons? A point guard who can't breakdown defenses in the half court game either by shooting or driving makes life harder for everyone else. I'm not saying Ben isn't talented. He's ridiculously talented. But he is a major liability for us on offense. At least fake like you might shoot it, otherwise it's always 4 on 5 with him on the court. That forces everyone else to work crazy hard to get a good shot. His deficiencies becomes most obvious in the end game senarios.

Ben is not only hurting this team on the court this year, he's also hurting this team when it comes to organizational planning. A lot of the draft decisions of the last two seasons and free agency moves this summer were made on the predication that Simmons would take a star leap.

[Eyeamok]

Is there any doubt the biggest reason for this team's failures is Ben Simmons? A point guard who can't breakdown defenses in the half court game either by shooting or driving makes life harder for everyone else. I'm not saying Ben isn't talented. He's ridiculously talented. But he is a major liability for us on offense. At least fake like you might shoot it, otherwise it's always 4 on 5 with him on the court. That forces everyone else to work crazy hard to get a good shot. His deficiencies becomes most obvious in the end game senarios.

There is a book I love called Talent is overrated. In one chapter it talks about Jerry Rice and how his workout routine in the off season were so intense. Other players used to come train with him and just not be able to keep up. He said a lot of his work ethic came from the fact that he was from a small school and a small town and no one thought he would be as good as he turned out to be. So he had to work hard to stay on top. Tom Brady said that he just hoped one day he would be able to start in the NFL.

The point is. Ben is as you said ridiculously talented. But he has been handed the keys everywhere he has gone. He has never had to work ridiculously hard for anything basketball related. So he probably does not know how to work really hard. Working hard and sticking with it is a skill. A skill that Ben probably has not mastered yet. And he just can't see his flaws yet.

[GuideDog]

Is there any doubt the biggest reason for this team's failures is Ben Simmons? A point guard who can't breakdown defenses in the half court game either by shooting or driving makes life harder for everyone else. I'm not saying Ben isn't talented. He's ridiculously talented. But he is a major liability for us on offense. At least fake like you might shoot it, otherwise it's always 4 on 5 with him on the court. That forces everyone else to work crazy hard to get a good shot. His deficiencies becomes most obvious in the end game senarios.

In that case Ben needs a coach that will push him hard and demand high standards instead on coddling him. If you wait for Ben to arrive on his own time, it will never happen. If the team doesn't think Ben can be pushed and challenged to raise his game, then they need to unload him while his value is high.

There is a book I love called Talent is overrated. In one chapter it talks about Jerry Rice and how his workout routine in the off season were so intense. Other players used to come train with him and just not be able to keep up. He said a lot of his work ethic came from the fact that he was from a small school and a small town and no one thought he would be as good as he turned out to be. So he had to work hard to stay on top. Tom Brady said that he just hoped one day he would be able to start in the NFL.

The point is. Ben is as you said ridiculously talented. But he has been handed the keys everywhere he has gone. He has never had to work ridiculously hard for anything basketball related. So he probably does not know how to work really hard. Working hard and sticking with it is a skill. A skill that Ben probably has not mastered yet. And he just can't see his flaws yet.