Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4

[Jailblazers7]

One underrated part of discussing a players upside is if they have the work ethic to actually reach it. I feel pretty confident that McCain has the kind of approach & work ethic that will allow him to max out his potential.

[Embiid P]

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Kid has a great attitude.

Opposite of Ben Simmons lol

Bet he and Maxey are going to get along great.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

People are really trying to say they rather have X Free agent over Trent Jr!? He's by far the best option and don't give me rebounding. If he's willing to come for minimum then you Thank God we got that lucky.

Yep, I was really saying that I slightly prefer Lonnie Walker over Gary Trent JR. But..If you actually read my enitre post, you'd notice that I followed it up by saying that I hope we end up with either one of them. Here, I'll give you a percentage to help put things in perspective. I'm like...Lonnie Walker 51.5/Gary Trent 48.5. I'd happily welcome either one of them on this team. I favor Walker because I think he actually has some motivation about not being signed yet. I can't speak on Trent because I don't follow him. Walker is a Reading kid so that's another reason. He's also the better athlete and I think he's the better defender.

You can have your opinion. Trent is the better shooter imo. They both have almost indetical defensive ratings roughly around 116 so that's a push. Walker is a better athlete but we need more shooters not athletes. Not gonna be enough room for more athletes with Maxey Paul Embiid taking majority of the plays/shots.

Rather have someone familiar with nurse too. Being close to home is cool and all but really means nothing

Dude, it's cool! This doesn't need to be an argument. You win bro. I like Trent too. You don't need to convince me bud.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

One underrated part of discussing a players upside is if they have the work ethic to actually reach it. I feel pretty confident that McCain has the kind of approach & work ethic that will allow him to max out his potential.

Yeah, he's a worker from what I've read. He just needs to shadow Maxey.

[the_process]

Yep, I was really saying that I slightly prefer Lonnie Walker over Gary Trent JR. But..If you actually read my enitre post, you'd notice that I followed it up by saying that I hope we end up with either one of them. Here, I'll give you a percentage to help put things in perspective. I'm like...Lonnie Walker 51.5/Gary Trent 48.5. I'd happily welcome either one of them on this team. I favor Walker because I think he actually has some motivation about not being signed yet. I can't speak on Trent because I don't follow him. Walker is a Reading kid so that's another reason. He's also the better athlete and I think he's the better defender.

Don't know about the better defender part. But, I do know I'd rather have Walker to come in and go ham off the bench.

Trent averages and scores better so wouldn't he be going ham?

I'll take either or but if there's a choice then it's no contest imo

IMO Trent is a starter, where Walker is a sixth man. So agreed Trent is better. I was just saying it depends on what role you’re trying to fill. Who knows what they’ve promised to Oubre and Gordon and Martin though.

[ProcessDoctor]

Why is Jordan Nwora still a free agent? And why has he bounced around the league so much in just a few short years?

[LeonJordanJr24]

Don't know about the better defender part. But, I do know I'd rather have Walker to come in and go ham off the bench.

Trent averages and scores better so wouldn't he be going ham?

I'll take either or but if there's a choice then it's no contest imo

IMO Trent is a starter, where Walker is a sixth man. So agreed Trent is better. I was just saying it depends on what role you’re trying to fill. Who knows what they’ve promised to Oubre and Gordon and Martin though.

Martin a starter . Doubt Oubre was promised to be a starter and definitely not Gordon ...

[ProcessDoctor]

If signed, Trent Jr. should start over Oubre. Sign him + RoCo and call it a day.


Maxey/Lowry/McCain
Trent Jr./Gordon/Edwards
Martin/Oubre/Council
George/Covington/Martin
Embiid/Drummond/Bona


Maxey(34)/Lowry(14)
Trent Jr.(28)/Gordon(14)/Oubre(6)
Martin(28)/Oubre(20)
George(32)/Covington(16)
Embiid(30)/Drummond(18)

[sixers hoops]

Don't know about the better defender part. But, I do know I'd rather have Walker to come in and go ham off the bench.

Trent averages and scores better so wouldn't he be going ham?

I'll take either or but if there's a choice then it's no contest imo

IMO Trent is a starter, where Walker is a sixth man. So agreed Trent is better. I was just saying it depends on what role you’re trying to fill. Who knows what they’ve promised to Oubre and Gordon and Martin though.

I am pretty certain that Gordon wasn’t promised a starting job. I would think they probably did sell Martin on being a starter to get him to sign, but he prob will start anyway.

Could Trent be a starter over Oubre? I don’t know if they “promise” starting jobs, but if they did promise it to Oubre to sign, you would think they would honor it. Ultimately, if it took offering Trent a starting job to get him, I would hope they could figure something out. Talk to Oubre about it and make it work.

[76ciology]

So, we decided not to offer KJ Martin his 1-year, $16M contract to avoid causing negative feelings for Caleb Martin and Kelly Oubre?

[jstross]

Sarcasm? I'm guessing we won't know the contract details for a few days? Best guess is year 1 $8 guaranteed, Year 2 $8 non guaranteed?

So, we decided not to offer KJ Martin his 1-year, $16M contract to avoid causing negative feelings for Caleb Martin and Kelly Oubre?

[sixers hoops]

So, we decided not to offer KJ Martin his 1-year, $16M contract to avoid causing negative feelings for Caleb Martin and Kelly Oubre?

Huh? No

[the_process]

Trent averages and scores better so wouldn't he be going ham?

I'll take either or but if there's a choice then it's no contest imo

IMO Trent is a starter, where Walker is a sixth man. So agreed Trent is better. I was just saying it depends on what role you’re trying to fill. Who knows what they’ve promised to Oubre and Gordon and Martin though.

I am pretty certain that Gordon wasn’t promised a starting job. I would think they probably did sell Martin on being a starter to get him to sign, but he prob will start anyway.

Could Trent be a starter over Oubre? I don’t know if they “promise” starting jobs, but if they did promise it to Oubre to sign, you would think they would honor it. Ultimately, if it took offering Trent a starting job to get him, I would hope they could figure something out. Talk to Oubre about it and make it work.

Have they promised the sixth man role to Gordon to get him to sign that minimum? That would mean if they sign Trent to start and Oubre now is the sixth man, that pushes Gordon down the pecking order one. I would think these are issues they could work through, but egos are fragile things.

If they sign Walker, he clearly slots in after them all, hence no bruised egos.

Just food for thought. I’d rather have Trent, but again have no idea what conversations Morey and Nurse have had with these guys (specifically Oubre and Gordon) so far.

[76ciology]

Sarcasm? I'm guessing we won't know the contract details for a few days? Best guess is year 1 $8 guaranteed, Year 2 $8 non guaranteed?

So, we decided not to offer KJ Martin his 1-year, $16M contract to avoid causing negative feelings for Caleb Martin and Kelly Oubre?

Huh? No

I was expecting a one-year, $17M deal, so I looked into the reason behind the new structure of KJ Martin’s contract and found this tweet.

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[sixers hoops]

IMO Trent is a starter, where Walker is a sixth man. So agreed Trent is better. I was just saying it depends on what role you’re trying to fill. Who knows what they’ve promised to Oubre and Gordon and Martin though.

I am pretty certain that Gordon wasn’t promised a starting job. I would think they probably did sell Martin on being a starter to get him to sign, but he prob will start anyway.

Could Trent be a starter over Oubre? I don’t know if they “promise” starting jobs, but if they did promise it to Oubre to sign, you would think they would honor it. Ultimately, if it took offering Trent a starting job to get him, I would hope they could figure something out. Talk to Oubre about it and make it work.

Have they promised the sixth man role to Gordon to get him to sign that minimum? That would mean if they sign Trent to start and Oubre now is the sixth man, that pushes Gordon down the pecking order one. I would think these are issues they could work through, but egos are fragile things.

If they sign Walker, he clearly slots in after them all, hence no bruised egos.

Just food for thought. I’d rather have Trent, but again have no idea what conversations Morey and Nurse have had with these guys (specifically Oubre and Gordon) so far.

I can’t imagine they are offering six man roles, but who knows with Morey.

[76ciology]

Honestly, I'm not very invested in trading KJ Martin's contract. Thats why you dont see me posting a lot about it. I don't see a significant gap between him and DFS.

[sixers hoops]

Sarcasm? I'm guessing we won't know the contract details for a few days? Best guess is year 1 $8 guaranteed, Year 2 $8 non guaranteed?

Huh? No

I was expecting a one-year, $17M deal, so I looked into the reason behind the new structure of KJ Martin’s contract and found this tweet.

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We did discuss this a few pages back. I personally disagreed with that suggestion.

[76ciology]

I am pretty certain that Gordon wasn’t promised a starting job. I would think they probably did sell Martin on being a starter to get him to sign, but he prob will start anyway.

Could Trent be a starter over Oubre? I don’t know if they “promise” starting jobs, but if they did promise it to Oubre to sign, you would think they would honor it. Ultimately, if it took offering Trent a starting job to get him, I would hope they could figure something out. Talk to Oubre about it and make it work.

Have they promised the sixth man role to Gordon to get him to sign that minimum? That would mean if they sign Trent to start and Oubre now is the sixth man, that pushes Gordon down the pecking order one. I would think these are issues they could work through, but egos are fragile things.

If they sign Walker, he clearly slots in after them all, hence no bruised egos.

Just food for thought. I’d rather have Trent, but again have no idea what conversations Morey and Nurse have had with these guys (specifically Oubre and Gordon) so far.

I can’t imagine they are offering six man roles, but who knows with Morey.

If there's any ”promise”, Woj tweeted that Kelly Oubre would be our starting shooting guard when we signed him.

[the_process]

Sarcasm? I'm guessing we won't know the contract details for a few days? Best guess is year 1 $8 guaranteed, Year 2 $8 non guaranteed?

Huh? No

I was expecting a one-year, $17M deal, so I looked into the reason behind the new structure of KJ Martin’s contract and found this tweet.

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I thought they were going to 12M to give themselves a big buffer.

However, Yossi Gosselin brought up an interesting point I think that could be more relevant than sparing feelings. He said that if the Sixers fail to find a suitable deal by the deadline, they could dump Martin and dodge the tax again. It’s easier to dump 8M than it is 16M or even 12M.

[the_process]

Honestly, I'm not very invested in trading KJ Martin's contract. Thats why you dont see me posting a lot about it. I don't see a significant gap between him and DFS.

I’m now invested in selling Sacto on the idea that they need extra picks for Lauri so send Keegan over here!