Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason

Kobblehead · Post #1901 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:42 am

eyeatoma wrote:Porter Jr. has terrible defensively.

Porter is a tremendous defensive talent. Whether or not he commits or whether or not his back robs him of becoming a two-way beast will just have to play out. His defensive talent is obvious, though.

eyeatoma · Post #1902 » by **eyeatoma** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:43 am

Kobblehead wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Porter Jr. has terrible defensively.

Porter is a tremendous defensive talent. Whether or not he commits or whether or not his back robs him of becoming a two-way beast will just have to play out. His defensive talent is obvious, though.

He has to use that talent. He was terrible in the playoffs defensively.

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Skates · Post #1903 » by **Skates** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:47 am

Sixerscan wrote:Clearly the Sixers have one more "big" (most of MLE big) piece to add. I would prefer another forward, wouldn't surprise me if it was Reggie Jackson or some other guard though.

One piece via the MLE and one piece via trade hopefully.

Kobblehead · Post #1904 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:52 am

Maybe Rich Paul will steer Pope here for the full MLE.

Then we can package guys like Korkmaz and Milton and see what we can pull through trade.

I'd much rather be fielding non-exploitable defenders like Green, Pope and Thybulle at that SG/SF position as opposed to the sieves we had in last year's playoffs (Richardson/Milton/Korkmaz/Burks).

Post #1905 » by **Sixerscan** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:58 am

Kobblehead wrote:Maybe Rich Paul will steer Pope here for the full MLE.

Then we can package guys like Korkmaz and Milton and see what we can pull through trade.

I'd much rather be fielding non-exploitable defenders like Green, Pope and Thybulle at that SG/SF position as opposed to the sieves we had in last year's playoffs (Richardson/Milton/Korkmaz/Burks).

Not a bad idea but I just assume Lebron/Klutch nonsense with Pope.

76ciology · Post #1906 » by **76ciology** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:01 am

Kobblehead wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Porter Jr. has terrible defensively.

Porter is a tremendous defensive talent. Whether or not he commits or whether or not his back robs him of becoming a two-way beast will just have to play out. His defensive talent is obvious, though.

I heard (via Windhorst) Nuggets has Porter Jr as almost untouchable. They’re really high on him.

76ciology · Post #1907 » by **76ciology** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:03 am

I hope we use the MLE for a wing.

I’m OK with our bigs and guards right now.

Kobblehead · Post #1908 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:04 am

Perhaps they might view it a good strategy for the expansion of Klutch to set up headquarters on both coasts. They might as well make Philadelphia the B site, given that Simmons is their brightest young client. Both Maxey and Ferguson (lol) are Klutch, as well.

SixthStreet · Post #1909 » by **SixthStreet** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:06 am

It may just be FA overpay nonsense but I'm starting to think the relative spend on shooting is getting too high. I'm not sure what the pivot is but there's going to be value in guys that don't space the floor but do everything else well soon. It's unfortunate that our two stars have an absolute need for shooting to maximize their impact on the floor.

eyeatoma · Post #1910 » by **eyeatoma** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:11 am

Uhhhh... Hope not

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SixthStreet · Post #1911 » by **SixthStreet** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:15 am

With Rivers, it's all about expectations. He's not good but if he's replacing Korkmaz in the rotation it's a net positive.

ckchen · Post #1912 » by **ckchen** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:15 am

76ciology wrote:I hope we use the MLE for a wing.

I’m OK with our bigs and guards right now.

Our team is literally half wing players. And the free agent market is littered with wings. If we have to use our MLE on a SG/SF type, then we've done something wrong. If they use it, I think/hope it will be a combo forward/PF type - a Mo Harkless, JaMychal Green, Jeff Green sort of player. I don't think this team needs any more guards. When your PF rotation is currently Tobias and Mike Scott and you have to think that's the biggest hole on the team right now. Our team has more than enough 2 guards that can swing to 3, or play point passably.

76ciology · Post #1913 » by **76ciology** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:17 am

ckchen wrote:
76ciology wrote:I hope we use the MLE for a wing.

I’m OK with our bigs and guards right now.

Our team is literally half wing players. And the free agent market is littered with wings. If we have to use our MLE on a SG/SF type, then we've done something wrong. If they use it, I think/hope it will be a combo forward/PF type - a Mo Harkless, JaMychal Green, Jeff Green sort of player. I don't think this team needs any more guards. When your PF rotation is currently Tobias and Mike Scott and you have to think that's the biggest hole on the team right now. Our team has more than enough 2 guards that can swing to 3, or play point passably.

I could be wrong but I think only Ben can be someone you can rely on to defend guys like Durant or Tatum or Kawhi or LeBron.

76ciology · Post #1914 » by **76ciology** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:18 am

Kobblehead wrote:Perhaps they might view it a good strategy for the expansion of Klutch to set up headquarters on both coasts. They might as well make Philadelphia the B site, given that Simmons is their brightest young client. Both Maxey and Ferguson (lol) are Klutch, as well.

Please don’t. I think if that becomes true, it will drive Biid out this team

SixthStreet · Post #1915 » by **SixthStreet** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:19 am

The good thing about the annual free agency bonanza is that the light at the end of 5/180 for Tobias gets closer. There's some baffling deals that teams will have immediate remorse on that will give us overpaid for overpaid options.

stormi · Post #1916 » by **stormi** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:20 am

Kobblehead wrote:Maybe Rich Paul will steer Pope here for the full MLE.

Then we can package guys like Korkmaz and Milton and see what we can pull through trade.

I'd much rather be fielding non-exploitable defenders like Green, Pope and Thybulle at that SG/SF position as opposed to the sieves we had in last year's playoffs (Richardson/Milton/Korkmaz/Burks).

Would be elite. I like KCP a lot.

Kobblehead · Post #1917 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:22 am

Given that we're already breaking in an offense-only creater (Tyrese Maxey), I don't think it makes sense to bring in such a similar player in Austin Rivers.

Especially since Rivers has so many intangibles red flags when it comes to his likeability amongst his peers and his basketball IQ.

ckchen · Post #1918 » by **ckchen** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:23 am

76ciology wrote:
ckchen wrote:
76ciology wrote:I hope we use the MLE for a wing.

I’m OK with our bigs and guards right now.

Our team is literally half wing players. And the free agent market is littered with wings. If we have to use our MLE on a SG/SF type, then we've done something wrong. If they use it, I think/hope it will be a combo forward/PF type - a Mo Harkless, JaMychal Green, Jeff Green sort of player. I don't think this team needs any more guards. When your PF rotation is currently Tobias and Mike Scott and you have to think that's the biggest hole on the team right now. Our team has more than enough 2 guards that can swing to 3, or play point passably.

I could be wrong but I think only Ben can be someone you can rely on to defend guys like Durant or Tatum or Kawhi or LeBron.

Well...but that's why you have Ben right? I mean you're asking for someone who can guard 3 of the top 5 players in the league (plus Tatum), so it's not like there's some FA out there who is some kind of lockdown defender anyway as far as I can tell. You could try Matisse on Kawhi probably, but you would probably need a bigger guy to play those other guys anyway. Still think you're better off with a bigger forward, someone longer who could reasonably play against 3s/4s.

Skates · Post #1919 » by **Skates** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:23 am

eyeatoma wrote:Uhhhh... Hope not

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He has always been the inevitable backup plan. If his % hitting the three was better on a consistent basis I would be more interested. Don't really want, but don't hate him as much as I used to. Still hoping we can do better.

stormi · Post #1920 » by **stormi** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:24 am

SixthStreet wrote:The good thing about the annual free agency bonanza is that the light at the end of 5/180 for Tobias gets closer. There's some baffling deals that teams will have immediate remorse on that will give us overpaid for overpaid options.

I truly think Morey and Doc are going to coordinate a plan to artificially inflate his value through schemes and aerated counting stats, and then next summer with an improved rep - flip him in a s&t for a real star, a la Kawhi Leonard evacuating a titanic'ing Clippers team.

Morey's activated his Kansas City Andy Reid mode, he's bringing us a championship in the next three seasons.