Fantasy Trade Thread

[Negrodamus]

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[akhan786]

What do y’all think about sending Fultz back northwest in a trade for CJ Mccolum?

I think it instantly gives you 3 All-Stars and cements your spot in the Top 2 in the East.

[the_process]

What do y’all think about sending Fultz back northwest in a trade for CJ Mccolum?

I think it instantly gives you 3 All-Stars and cements your spot in the Top 2 in the East.

That's a good start to a deal.

[Kobblehead]

What do y’all think about sending Fultz back northwest in a trade for CJ Mccolum?

I think it instantly gives you 3 All-Stars and cements your spot in the Top 2 in the East.

Absolutely. Give us until July. We need to do our due diligence on seeing if we can sign a star through free agency first.

[ProcessDoctor]

What do y’all think about sending Fultz back northwest in a trade for CJ Mccolum?

I think it instantly gives you 3 All-Stars and cements your spot in the Top 2 in the East.

I personally would not. Potential + contract + defense are all in Fultz’s favor.

[jbent87]

What do y’all think about sending Fultz back northwest in a trade for CJ Mccolum?

I think it instantly gives you 3 All-Stars and cements your spot in the Top 2 in the East.

I personally would not. Potential + contract + defense are all in Fultz’s favor.

I hear you, but I wonder if we (everyone today, not us in this thread) have grown to place too much pressure on getting your "big 3" before feeling like you can legit compete in todays NBA, for good, obvious reasons. But if we hold Fultz out from deals hoping on the chance that he is our third "big 3" guy and it turns out he isn't we're now even further behind the 8 ball. Simmons and Embiid are near elite at this moment, so early into their careers. You may not need another elite piece next to them, so much as awesome, complimentary pieces.

McCollum obviously has his issues on defense but on a team with Simmons and Embiid he is going to get all the looks he wants to torch teams. Factor in really, really good role players in Covington and Saric and that COULD be the team. Nobody is ripping the Celtics because they don't have superstars, they are trusting that process so to speak with Brad Stevens going 7-9 deep and playing team basketball. JJR isn't going to be around forever and Fultz could possibly bust. What do you do then? Assuming you arent filling that void in FA with one of those top available players. There aren't anymore draft picks to grow this organically.

[ProcessDoctor]

What do y’all think about sending Fultz back northwest in a trade for CJ Mccolum?

I think it instantly gives you 3 All-Stars and cements your spot in the Top 2 in the East.

I personally would not. Potential + contract + defense are all in Fultz’s favor.

I hear you, but I wonder if we (everyone today, not us in this thread) have grown to place too much pressure on getting your "big 3" before feeling like you can legit compete in todays NBA, for good, obvious reasons. But if we hold Fultz out from deals hoping on the chance that he is our third "big 3" guy and it turns out he isn't we're now even further behind the 8 ball. Simmons and Embiid are near elite at this moment, so early into their careers. You may not need another elite piece next to them, so much as awesome, complimentary pieces.

McCollum obviously has his issues on defense but on a team with Simmons and Embiid he is going to get all the looks he wants to torch teams. Factor in really, really good role players in Covington and Saric and that COULD be the team. Nobody is ripping the Celtics because they don't have superstars, they are trusting that process so to speak with Brad Stevens going 7-9 deep and playing team basketball. JJR isn't going to be around forever and Fultz could possibly bust. What do you do then? Assuming you arent filling that void in FA with one of those top available players. There aren't anymore draft picks to grow this organically.

I understand that sentiment as well, but from a value perspective, it's a trash deal. The type of low-value and impulsive flashy deal BC would make. We'd be taking on a top 40ish player with a gigantic contract that will require an even larger extension in another 2 seasons (not to mention eating up our FREE cap space in the process) in exchange for a #1 overall pick with just as much offensive upside + better defense on a team controlled contract. Absolutely horrendous value.

If I'm trading Fultz for a win-now player, they better be a top 20 player that can take us over the top. CJ is just not that dude. Dame? Sign me up. Anthony Davis? I'll drive Fultz to the airport myself. In the meantime, let's just wait and see what free agency has to offer so we can add a player as good as or better than CJ while keeping Fultz.

[LloydFree]

What do y’all think about sending Fultz back northwest in a trade for CJ Mccolum?

I think it instantly gives you 3 All-Stars and cements your spot in the Top 2 in the East.

Absolutely. I have no idea why Portland would do the deal though. Fultz will be making 10 million next year so you wouldn't be saving that much money and you'd basically be throwing in the towel on the whole season.

[Kobblehead]

while keeping Fultz.

Fultz stinks, man. And as long as he's here, he could be an impediment to other players on the roster playing and developing (like Korkmaz, Shamet, Smith, Milton).

I mean, look what's happening now. We just altered one of the most efficient starting lineups in the NBA just to play mental gymnastics with Fultz so he doesn't sulk and check out again. We gotta get out of this investment. The sooner, the better.

[akhan786]

while keeping Fultz.

Fultz stinks, man. And as long as he's here, he could be an impediment to other players on the roster playing and developing (like Korkmaz, Shamet, Smith, Milton).

I mean, look what's happening now. We just altered one of the most efficient starting lineups in the NBA just to play mental gymnastics with Fultz so he doesn't sulk and check out again. We gotta get out of this investment. The sooner, the better.

This is my thinking as well. Look into his eyes man. The kid doesn't look like he has "it" in him (at least not yet), and I think it would be a masterful move to cash out on him while he's still technically a #1 pick talent.

Fultz could definitely still be good. But he has a while to go. And that would be fine if Simmons and Embiid didn't immediately vault into All-Star level players. They are already on a different timeline that Fultz unless he proves me wrong this year.

[LloydFree]

while keeping Fultz.

Fultz stinks, man. And as long as he's here, he could be an impediment to other players on the roster playing and developing (like Korkmaz, Shamet, Smith, Milton).

I mean, look what's happening now. We just altered one of the most efficient starting lineups in the NBA just to play mental gymnastics with Fultz so he doesn't sulk and check out again. We gotta get out of this investment. The sooner, the better.

This is my thinking as well. Look into his eyes man. The kid doesn't look like he has "it" in him (at least not yet), and I think it would be a masterful move to cash out on him while he's still technically a #1 pick talent.

Fultz could definitely still be good. But he has a while to go. And that would be fine if Simmons and Embiid didn't immediately vault into All-Star level players. They are already on a different timeline that Fultz unless he proves me wrong this year.

Forget his eyes, look or frame of mind. He's just not good.

[ProcessDoctor]

while keeping Fultz.

Fultz stinks, man. And as long as he's here, he could be an impediment to other players on the roster playing and developing (like Korkmaz, Shamet, Smith, Milton).

I mean, look what's happening now. We just altered one of the most efficient starting lineups in the NBA just to play mental gymnastics with Fultz so he doesn't sulk and check out again. We gotta get out of this investment. The sooner, the better.

LOL this coming from the guy who continues to hold out hope for Lonzo Ball, Josh Jackson, and Fox. We saw a full season of those guys playing like trash, yet you're willing to say Fultz sucks after 14 regular season games.

Of course we're going to alter the lineup to give him a chance to prove himself. We made a huge investment trading up for and drafting him. Now it's sink or swim for him.

[Kobblehead]

Lonzo Ball and Derrick White were the only PGs in that draft I endorsed. Not a fan of Fultz, Fox or Smith.

I could be wrong on Josh Jackson. He's certainly not a lock to be an efficient playmaker on a contender. That doesn't change the fact that Fultz was an overrated prospect whose potential should be lowered even further based on mentality and confidence issues. It will be a prove to be a waste of time trying to develop him, IMO.

McCollum is a way better player and fit than Fultz can ever hope to be, IMO. Like I said, though, we gotta wait and see if any superstar wants to come aboard first.

[LloydFree]

Lonzo Ball and Derrick White were the only PGs in that draft I endorsed. Not a fan of Fultz, Fox or Smith.

I could be wrong on Josh Jackson. He's certainly not a lock to be an efficient playmaker on a contender. That doesn't change the fact that Fultz was an overrated prospect whose potential should be lowered even further based on mentality and confidence issues. It will be a prove to be a waste of time trying to develop him, IMO.

McCollum is a way better player and fit than Fultz can ever hope to be, IMO. Like I said, though, we gotta wait and see if any superstar wants to come aboard first.

Not necessarily, unless the Super Star were targeting specifically plays SG. Fultz makes enough future money, that we could add CJ McCollum and still create a Max slot by renouncing Redick, Chandler, Bayless and Muscala. Whithout them the 76ers would only have about 75 million on the books (Embiid, Covington, McCollum, Shamet, Zhaire, Korkmaz) even with Simmons and Saric's cap hold.

[ProcessDoctor]

F it, let's go get Butler. We need some attitude and leadership on this team.

Fultz + Chandler + Bayless + MIA 1st for Butler + Teague

Simmons/Teague
Redick/Shamet
Butler/Covington
Saric/Muscala
Embiid/Amir

[Kobblehead]

You guys still wouldn't do a Fultz for Kennard + expiring swap?

[cool93]

You guys still wouldn't do a Fultz for Kennard + expiring swap?

Doesn't really matter. I don't see anyone giving more than a late 1st for Fultz with how he looked so far.

[LloydFree]

You guys still wouldn't do a Fultz for Kennard + expiring swap?

No. I don't think Kennard is an upgrade on Shamet. Just play Shamet. But I'd trade Fultz straight up for every other player picked in last year's lottery other than maybe Frank N.

[BigSleep333]

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if true, thats a mistake. butler could be the biggest **** in this league, but he delivers. they dont have to be all friends.

covington+fultz should be offered without a question. this beats the heat offer, they were about to accept.

[Kobblehead]

I dunno, Kennard dominated the ACC as a sophomore. Bigger with better ball skills than Shamet, too. Besides, it's not like there isn't room for both players in our rotation. Kennard can get Fultz's 20+ and Shamet can siphon into's T.J.'s 20+.