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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1961 » by ankle420breaker » Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:39 am

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Saddiq Bey is just a name. He's not actually a good player. Coming off an ACL injury mid-season makes it even worse.

No chance the guy would help in a title push, so I don't see it.
I like his fit. Hardnosed physical wing who's switchable and can match up with 4's. Capable outside shooter (although he didn't shoot particularly well last season).

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Midseason? The guy got injured and had his surgery in APRIL. The guy is likely to sit out ALL season, and you have no idea how he'll play coming off a major injury. What would be the point in making this deal?
ACL injuries today aren't the death sentence of yesteryear. He could very well be ramping up shortly after we trade for him if it's a deadline deal and his currentvinjury situation is particularly why it's realistic that he'll be attainable for KMJ and a pick or two.

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Post#1962 » by eyeatoma » Sun Jul 14, 2024 5:31 am

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FireMorey wrote:Those detectors are not always reliable. I’ll give Tobias the benefit of the doubt. And even if he used AI it was likely just to fix grammar and stuff.
I'm a teacher this is definitely sus. We are constantly getting kids using AI on their work.

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I'm interested what is suspect about the text that makes your teacher "spider senses" tingle? Not saying you are wrong, just would like to know what about the text makes you say hmmm !


Comes off as artificial, trying to say the right thing, trying to make the post a lasting message to the fans, by using a lot of catch phrases sequentially. The text reads as being very superficial, offering platitudes that are over the top, and doesn't seem to coincide with his personality, despite him being well read. It seems formulaic in it's structure, with the inclusion of a words that are too ill fitting, or sophisticated for the moment. Overall something about the writing just reads as inhuman.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1963 » by ckchen » Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:53 am

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ankle420breaker wrote:I like his fit. Hardnosed physical wing who's switchable and can match up with 4's. Capable outside shooter (although he didn't shoot particularly well last season).

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Midseason? The guy got injured and had his surgery in APRIL. The guy is likely to sit out ALL season, and you have no idea how he'll play coming off a major injury. What would be the point in making this deal?
ACL injuries today aren't the death sentence of yesteryear. He could very well be ramping up shortly after we trade for him if it's a deadline deal and his currentvinjury situation is particularly why it's realistic that he'll be attainable for KMJ and a pick or two.

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I never said it was death sentence but it will almost certainly take a full year to return to court. Dario, markelle, kawhi, jamal murray, thomas bryant. All players who tore ACLs recently (2020/2021) and returned. Every single one took 12 months (or longer) to return to the court and even then most of them worked their way back slowly and in limited minutes even after they did return a full year or more later.

the wizards signed Bey knowing full well he would likely sit out the entire season. The point of the KJ contract would be to trade for a player who would be an upgrade to the team for the second half of this season. Not someone who most likely won't be playing this season or even if he was somehow able to return to play this season ahead of the 12 mo+ timeline that nearly every single NBA player who has had a complete ACL tear has had, would be at best slowly working themselves back to form.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1964 » by M2J » Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:04 am

During the feature, Harrell vented that he never should have returned to the NBA “Bubble” in Orlando to finish out the 2019-2020 season amid COVID restrictions. His Clippers blew a 3-1 lead and lost to the Denver Nuggets in the second round of the playoffs that season.

In his piece for The Players Tribune, Harrell shared an anecdote to illustrate how he wasn’t in the right mindset during that time because his grandmother had died. The anecdote also called out George for not knowing the Clippers’ defensive assignments, which led Harrell to threaten to knock out George.

“I told [Paul George] right then and there, in front of coaches and everybody, ‘I will knock you the f–k out, bro. You’re trippin’. You was wrong, bro. You’re WRONG,'” Harrell wrote (profanity censored by LBS).

Harrell says the Clippers told him after the season they wouldn’t be bringing him back.






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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1965 » by Stanford » Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:11 am

youngcrev wrote:Were we thinking he was the one that actually wrote it in the first place.


Of course not. But he couldn't even get a publicist to do it, like everyone else. He had to do it in the most NFT-guy way possible.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1966 » by youngcrev » Sun Jul 14, 2024 9:35 am

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youngcrev wrote:Were we thinking he was the one that actually wrote it in the first place.


Of course not. But he couldn't even get a publicist to do it, like everyone else. He had to do it in the most NFT-guy way possible.


I'm saying it's possible he got a publicist to do it... And then they were like "sure thing boss", went to chatgpt, and then unpaused their game.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1967 » by zaz102 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 12:17 pm

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Gotta let Daryl cook baby, gotta let Daryl cook.

He didn't trade Maxey as a low minute rookie for Harden alongside Ben.... He's got some time to evaluate Jared and determine if he's a keeper

I know it’s only been a few summer league games, but I feel like there’s a non-trivial chance that Knecht is a competent role player already and McCain isn’t. Not the best since we’re basically all in.


Yeah, that hasn't been lost on me either. Part of the reason why I assumed that Morey DID draft McCain for purposes of including him in a trade. But we''ll see how it unfolds.
Could be. Remember they also drafted him before landing PG.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1968 » by mjkvol » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:00 pm

Regarding Tobias, forget about the faux apology. What is stunning to me is the Pistons giving him $52 mil over two years - $26 million a year - for what, exactly? His 'leadership'? To teach these young guys to read more? And who was their 'competition' that they had to pay such a ridiculous price?

Say what you will about Tobias, but he and his dad are to be commended for extracting roughly $350 million in contract money from NBA teams in a career full of empty statistics and zero memorable moments.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1969 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:13 pm

Really is amazing. He's like a wing version of Jahlil Okafor.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1970 » by phillynative » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:15 pm

Don't we still need a 4? Or are they going to do it by committee until trade deadline?
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Post#1971 » by 76ciology » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:30 pm

phillynative wrote:Don't we still need a 4? Or are they going to do it by committee until trade deadline?


We already have somebody who’s better than Cam Johnson

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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1972 » by 76ciology » Sun Jul 14, 2024 1:39 pm

mjkvol wrote:Regarding Tobias, forget about the faux apology. What is stunning to me is the Pistons giving him $52 mil over two years - $26 million a year - for what, exactly? His 'leadership'? To teach these young guys to read more? And who was their 'competition' that they had to pay such a ridiculous price?

Say what you will about Tobias, but he and his dad are to be commended for extracting roughly $350 million in contract money from NBA teams in a career full of empty statistics and zero memorable moments.


Well, there’s a strong argument that Tobi is currently the Pistons' best scorer and possibly their best player overall (Cade +.4EPM; Tobias +.3 EPM) and even up to the foreseeable future.

The Pistons also don't seem focused on winning at the moment. If they were, they would likely prioritize adding more shooting and scoring to their roster.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1973 » by Iscull » Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:07 pm

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phillynative wrote:Don't we still need a 4? Or are they going to do it by committee until trade deadline?


We already have somebody who’s better than Cam Johnson

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I know it’s summer league, but this guy has played well in every single game. He also has the size and skill set that would be a good fit at the 4 for us.

I’m a little shocked Morey hasn’t tried to sign him to a 2-way, unless Aluma is waiting until after the summer?
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Post#1974 » by phillynative » Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:30 pm

Keve Aluma reminds me a little of Trey Lyles
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1975 » by zaz102 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:34 pm

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phillynative wrote:Don't we still need a 4? Or are they going to do it by committee until trade deadline?


We already have somebody who’s better than Cam Johnson

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I know it’s summer league, but this guy has played well in every single game. He also has the size and skill set that would be a good fit at the 4 for us.

I’m a little shocked Morey hasn’t tried to sign him to a 2-way, unless Aluma is waiting until after the summer?
He definitely sticks out from the rest of the team, but he is also 25 years old. He should be dominating.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1976 » by 76ciology » Sun Jul 14, 2024 2:38 pm

phillynative wrote:Keve Aluma reminds me a little of Trey Lyles


Jaren Jackson without elite shot blocking ability 8-)
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1977 » by PhillyFan11 » Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:06 pm

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PhillyFan11 wrote:Jake LaRavia is a name I hope Morey considers. Former 1st round pick with a solid skill set that has no real path to playing time for Memphis. Don’t know what it would take, but he makes nothing so you could trade Martin and a pick(s?) for him now. I think he could definitely play a very solid 15-20 mins for us at backup 4 while continuing to be a cheap asset moving forward


He's an interesting name. I would also look into Aldama and probably prefer him. As you mentioned, kinda tough to gauge their value.


I mean, LaRavia was getting 23 mpg last season in his second year. That's more than you are projecting giving him here. I don't see how that's "no real path to playing time" - most teams aren't willing to trade guys still on their rookie deal if they are productive and are showing potential, but still not enough potential to be trading a 1st round pick for him.

Aldama has basically been starting for that team. Again, I don't really why Memphis would be looking to deal him. If anyone is expendable from that team, it would be Brandon Clarke, who I've mentioned before. Overpaid for someone who has been playing <20MPG and this time truly no path for more.


Memphis drafted Edey, and Clarke was hurt for most/pretty much all of the year last season. That’s minimum 35-40 mins added to the C/PF rotation. I’m sure they wouldn’t mind trading Clarke, but that contract might not be easy to move given the salary cap situation around the league. IDK, maybe there’s a 1 for 1 swap that makes sense

Ja, Smart, Bane and J.Jackson are all obviously going to play 30 mins a game, or very close to it. Only so many mins left for GG, Edey, V.Williams, Clarke, Aldama, LaRavia, Z.Williams. Plus 1 of Rose/Konchar will probably get mins as the backup PG.

1 of Aldama or LaRavis doesn’t fit into that rotation and Aldama might have the leg up being almost 7’ and being able to play mins at the 5.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1978 » by jstross » Sun Jul 14, 2024 3:31 pm

Neither Knecht nor McCain move the needle for a championship level team IMO. Knecht got torched in his first few games.
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Gotta let Daryl cook baby, gotta let Daryl cook.

He didn't trade Maxey as a low minute rookie for Harden alongside Ben.... He's got some time to evaluate Jared and determine if he's a keeper

I know it’s only been a few summer league games, but I feel like there’s a non-trivial chance that Knecht is a competent role player already and McCain isn’t. Not the best since we’re basically all in.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1979 » by stormi » Sun Jul 14, 2024 4:00 pm

76ciology wrote:
phillynative wrote:Don't we still need a 4? Or are they going to do it by committee until trade deadline?


We already have somebody who’s better than Cam Johnson

Read on Twitter


I didn't watch the game, so I might be off base here but this looks like a C to me. A stretch five if you believe in the shot.

Setting screens at the top of the key and veering out to pop. Posting up down low. Defending in the paint. Slow-ish feet.

I don't think this guy can play alongside Joel Embiid.
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Re: Sixers Offseason Thread Part 4 

Post#1980 » by NearingZero » Sun Jul 14, 2024 6:43 pm

stormi wrote:
76ciology wrote:
phillynative wrote:Don't we still need a 4? Or are they going to do it by committee until trade deadline?


We already have somebody who’s better than Cam Johnson

Read on Twitter


I didn't watch the game, so I might be off base here but this looks like a C to me. A stretch five if you believe in the shot.

Setting screens at the top of the key and veering out to pop. Posting up down low. Defending in the paint. Slow-ish feet.

I don't think this guy can play alongside Joel Embiid.

That's what it looks like to me too. Maybe he sneaks onto the roster as a deep bench guy, who they give limited opportunities with Joel in very specific 2-big matchups.

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