Addition by Subtraction - Move Iguodala NOW

[cksdayoff]

^ alright, i laughed out loud on that one.

[freshie2]

Don't know if it was mentioned here, but the most telling sign that something is in the works is the "Sixers Holiday Pack" promotion:

http://www.nba.com/sixers/tickets/holidaypacks.html

Lou's Igloo Pack? Who do you think that was originally intended for?

Thought the same thing when I saw this...not even pulling in the 'Igloo' reference, but just his absence. December 15 (I believe) opens up the trade options to include late signees...if the Sixers don't have a significant run by then, we could see Iguodala moved at this point. If the Sixers play better, then nothing probably happens until the deadline. Can't see him still on the roster after the trade deadline.

[Neon1]

I would be extremely shocked, that trade gives us nothing. Cap space until Brand is gone is useless, plus who knows what the new CBA will be like. Anderson is a nice piece who might flourish in a bench role here, Orton looks like a nothing pick and the draft pick is a minimal asset given where the Magic will be drafting.

Unless you are starting with Gortat and the first round pick then filling in, I think this trade proposal is extremely one sided. I'd much rather keep Iggy then. The team might look to trade himfor value , they could have simply given him away long ago if they wanted, which is what this trade proposes.

Orlando would definately do that. I didnt do Gortat because i was under the impression you guys, wanted to slice some payroll and were looking for youth (not that Gortat is old).

So you saying Philly would be more open to one of:

Gortat,Vince,Ryan Anderson, and a pick
for
Iggy and (Speights or Hawes)

or
Gortat, Anderson, Peitrus
for
Iggy and (Speights or Hawes)?

or
Vince, Gortat, Anderson, pick
for
Iggy,(Hawes or Speights), Songalia and Kapono.

or
Vince,Gortat,Anderson, pick
for
Iggy,Hawes,Kapono.?

[Rapsobsessed7]

Iggy + Songila for Peja + Weems + Dorsey + Miami 1st?

?

[HartfordWhalers]

Iggy + Songila for Peja + Weems + Dorsey + Miami 1st?

?

Try the fantasy trade sticky.

[donpedro]

bulls fan here what will it take for us to get iggy except for rose boozer and noah?

[phiphan]

I don't think it's ever happened that a team has traded away its best player and gotten better. Really the only reason for trading him is in a blow-up situation where we get youth/picks/expirings and going the into full on rebuild (i.e. tank) mode. And at this point there's no rush to make that move, as we're doing pretty well losing as it is. Mandating that we move him NOW almost guarantees that we'll get a lesser deal, because teams are still evaluating what they have. Better to wait for when a team sees what they have and feel they're contenders enough to sacrifice their futures for the present.

[PhillyFan]

I don't think it's ever happened that a team has traded away its best player and gotten better. Really the only reason for trading him is in a blow-up situation where we get youth/picks/expirings and going the into full on rebuild (i.e. tank) mode. And at this point there's no rush to make that move, as we're doing pretty well losing as it is. Mandating that we move him NOW almost guarantees that we'll get a lesser deal, because teams are still evaluating what they have. Better to wait for when a team sees what they have and feel they're contenders enough to sacrifice their futures for the present.

Especially with the upcoming lockout, everything is still up in the air.

Quick trade to get us a few more wins or a young stop gap center with "potential"?

[ponder719]

I would be extremely shocked, that trade gives us nothing. Cap space until Brand is gone is useless, plus who knows what the new CBA will be like. Anderson is a nice piece who might flourish in a bench role here, Orton looks like a nothing pick and the draft pick is a minimal asset given where the Magic will be drafting.

Unless you are starting with Gortat and the first round pick then filling in, I think this trade proposal is extremely one sided. I'd much rather keep Iggy then. The team might look to trade himfor value , they could have simply given him away long ago if they wanted, which is what this trade proposes.

Orlando would definately do that. I didnt do Gortat because i was under the impression you guys, wanted to slice some payroll and were looking for youth (not that Gortat is old).

So you saying Philly would be more open to one of:

Gortat,Vince,Ryan Anderson, and a pick
for
Iggy and (Speights or Hawes)

or
Gortat, Anderson, Peitrus
for
Iggy and (Speights or Hawes)?

or
Vince, Gortat, Anderson, pick
for
Iggy,(Hawes or Speights), Songalia and Kapono.

or
Vince,Gortat,Anderson, pick
for
Iggy,Hawes,Kapono.?

I don't know what the FO would want, but the trade I like with Orlando is Iggy and Brand for Carter and Gortat. It's been talked about before on here, Orlando fans seem to like it, I know we would, so it makes a lot of sense. I suspect Comcast would prefer moving Brand to picking up prospects, so if Orlando could swallow hard and do that, Iggy would be in blue and white tomorrow.

[Neon1]

I would be extremely shocked, that trade gives us nothing. Cap space until Brand is gone is useless, plus who knows what the new CBA will be like. Anderson is a nice piece who might flourish in a bench role here, Orton looks like a nothing pick and the draft pick is a minimal asset given where the Magic will be drafting.

Unless you are starting with Gortat and the first round pick then filling in, I think this trade proposal is extremely one sided. I'd much rather keep Iggy then. The team might look to trade himfor value , they could have simply given him away long ago if they wanted, which is what this trade proposes.

Orlando would definately do that. I didnt do Gortat because i was under the impression you guys, wanted to slice some payroll and were looking for youth (not that Gortat is old).

So you saying Philly would be more open to one of:

Gortat,Vince,Ryan Anderson, and a pick
for
Iggy and (Speights or Hawes)

or
Gortat, Anderson, Peitrus
for
Iggy and (Speights or Hawes)?

or
Vince, Gortat, Anderson, pick
for
Iggy,(Hawes or Speights), Songalia and Kapono.

or
Vince,Gortat,Anderson, pick
for
Iggy,Hawes,Kapono.?

I don't know what the FO would want, but the trade I like with Orlando is Iggy and Brand for Carter and Gortat. It's been talked about before on here, Orlando fans seem to like it, I know we would, so it makes a lot of sense. I suspect Comcast would prefer moving Brand to picking up prospects, so if Orlando could swallow hard and do that, Iggy would be in blue and white tomorrow.

Theres a thread on the Orlando board, it seems pretty unanimous outside of 1 guy that thinks Otis wouldn't take back Brand. Orlando fans dont seem to want him either. Im pretty sure Orlando would never do that trade. We would just do Arenas for Carter straight up before we would do any deal were we are getting Brand. I honestly dont thing Orlando values a player like Iggy quite that much.

[SouthJersey]

Does Carter expire this year? If so I would be in favor of that trade, as long as we got vazquez and a couple 1st back. The amount of cap room would be tremendous but the return on that trade is a little low for me and it doesnt fix the hole at SF. I REally want this team to draft Perry Jones.

[PhillyFan]

no reason for Orlando to take Brand, as he would just slow down their offense completely. I think the roster Magic has is fine as it is. None of our players will really add value to their team, unless they are suddenly in a rush to get ride of their players/players demand trade.

[underpressure]

So it is also part of our rebuilding plan to make Orlando a long-term competitor in our conference, which in fact they would be with Howard and Iguodala? And that's worth trading our best player for an expiring contract and average fillers (Gortat, picks)?

Unless Orlando for some reason can entice Philadelphia with a great deal, which they obviously can't, the Sixers have absolute no intention to deal with Orlando.

[SouthJersey]

Off topic, but if the Sixers were interested in Gortat, maybe Lou Williams could get it done?

[underpressure]

I think that's feasible but if the Magic are - for no reason - eyeing for Iguodala, they would reject it. Williams and Battie for Gortat should make it work I think.

[PhillyFan]

We would be glad to give you guys Williams + Battie for Gortat, but you guys will be packed with guards in your line up. But if you guys want, we'd throw in 1000 Philly cheesesteaks as incentive!

[ballislife]

What are you guys really looking for in a return for Iggy? If the primary thing is an expiring contract... Peja (probably going to be moved soon anyway) can do it.. add in a pick or a young player (which the Raptors have many of) and the deal could be done.

Also, I think Cleveland's gonna make make a hard push for Iggy to replace Lebrons position. They have the TPE which would dump Iggy's salary and keep Philly under the tax threshold... and they have some pieces they might be able to add as incentive for the FO to make the deal.

[PhillyFan]

To be honest, for any team to consider adding Iguodala, some things you have to consider:

1) you need shooters to play with him, since he is not a natural shooter.
2) his contract is not unreasonable, but it is around $13 mil, so it WILL take up a chunk of your cap space.
3) he is at his best when he is running in transition. if your offense is mainly in the half court, he may not be as effective unless you have players opening the lanes for him.

we are probably targeting expirings/youth/draf picks. we aren't competing anytime soon, so there's no point for us to grab any stop gap players. what we need the most are shooters/front court depth.

[ballislife]

Well I'm not too sure about Cleveland and they way they like to play now, but I do know the Raptors love pushing the ball up the court, they have a few large expiring contracts, and they have a bunch of young assets. Iggy would fit well beside a guy who spreads the floor like Bargnani and a SG in a PGs body like Bayless... he would be a facilitator with that team.

You think you'd be interested in Peja (expiring 15 mill), Miami's 1st round pick, and someone like Linas Kleiza or Sonny Weems for Iggy and Nocioni? Would def help out with the financial situation, allowing to go out and sign someone who fits the team better. Kleiza proved himself on the world stage, being named to the All-World team in the championships, and he's still young. Miami's pick is probably going to be in the mid-high 20s somewhere if they pick up their game... worst case is a lower 20s pick.

[tgo2223]

Iggy for expirings, a starting center+picks makes perfect sense. Signing him to that contract was a mistake and we should rid ourselves of it ASAP!!!