Bryan Colangelo recap from 97.5 interview

[Sportfan73]

If BC did something like trade Okafor/26 to PHX for 4/13 he would definitely exceed my current expectations from him. It would show he is much less hurried than perceived by many fans (especially myself). A core of Simmons, Saric, Murray/Dunn, Embiid, and maybe Noel would be amazing. The tidbit on free agency is also music to my ears. Doesn't sound like he wants to blow all our cap space and picks this summer, which is a huge relief.

I could live with that, but it would surprise me if he did it.

At 4 we take Murray, and at 13 we take Valentine or Jackson.

I still think Okafor is better than that though, but we can be creative with Simmons now.

We could eat Chandler's deal and try and get Knight, 4, and 13.

[Sixersftw]

While I agree, It depends on who else is out there. If you can get the right "3&D" guys at the other 2 spots and slide in a Noel or Embiid at the 5, you've suddenly potentially got something going, especially if they are coached up.

I think Simmons can be a good defender with time and effort, Murray I just don't see it. I'm kinda traumatized after watching our big's dealing with penetration at will last year.

PG- Jamal Murray
SG- Batum
SF- Covington
PF- Simmons
C - Embiid

OR

PG- Murray
SG- Batum (I really like this addition now)
SF- Simmons
PF- Noel
C- Embiid

Saric Maybe at the 4? It's a trade off between spacing and defense. That passing would be insane.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I prefer Ingram, won't be outraged if we take Simmons(unless he ends up sucking, then I'll rage) but like I mentioned in another post, there is a difference between rare and special. DeAndre Jordan is rare. Not often can guys that big jump that high. But that doesn't make him special. He's a role player. Very replaceable. Just because Simmons has a unique skill set for a guy his size, doesn't necessarily mean he is special. Just means he has unique skills that not a lot of players have. It doesn't mean he will be a franchise changer.

Ingram's skill set may be less unique, but that doesn't mean he won't be a better player.

I think people are just way too caught up in Simmons being "rare" that they kinda let that also mean he is better, when he may not be.

[Sixersftw]

I prefer Ingram, won't be outraged if we take Simmons(unless he ends up sucking, then I'll rage) but like I mentioned in another post, there is a difference between rare and special. DeAndre Jordan is rare. Not often can guys that big jump that high. But that doesn't make him special. He's a role player. Very replaceable. Just because Simmons has a unique skill set for a guy his size, doesn't necessarily mean he is special. Just means he has unique skills that not a lot of players have. It doesn't mean he will be a franchise changer.

Ingram's skill set may be less unique, but that doesn't mean he won't be a better player.

I think people are just way too caught up in Simmons being "rare" that they kinda let that also mean he is better, when he may not be.

I mean, Simmons is clearly special too. His season, statistically, is mind numbing. Nothing about him screams role player. He has red flags that concern me but without being able to directly evaluate rumors and perceptions myself I have to go on video and he looks absurd on tape.

I lean Ingram but honestly I don't really care either way. I think both of these guys are franchise level.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I prefer Ingram, won't be outraged if we take Simmons(unless he ends up sucking, then I'll rage) but like I mentioned in another post, there is a difference between rare and special. DeAndre Jordan is rare. Not often can guys that big jump that high. But that doesn't make him special. He's a role player. Very replaceable. Just because Simmons has a unique skill set for a guy his size, doesn't necessarily mean he is special. Just means he has unique skills that not a lot of players have. It doesn't mean he will be a franchise changer.

Ingram's skill set may be less unique, but that doesn't mean he won't be a better player.

I think people are just way too caught up in Simmons being "rare" that they kinda let that also mean he is better, when he may not be.

I mean, Simmons is clearly special too. His season, statistically, is mind numbing. Nothing about him screams role player. He has red flags that concern me but without being able to directly evaluate rumors and perceptions myself I have to go on video and he looks absurd on tape.

I lean Ingram but honestly I don't really care either way. I think both of these guys are franchise level.

I think stats for collegiate players are typically overrated. It depends on so many factors that don't necessarily translate to the NBA. I'm not saying he won't be special, I just personally think his game translates not as well to the NBA compared to Ingram.

[Sixersftw]

I think stats for collegiate players are typically overrated. It depends on so many factors that don't necessarily translate to the NBA. I'm not saying he won't be special, I just personally think his game translates not as well to the NBA compared to Ingram.

Depends on what you mean by translate. Ingram is plug and play. There hasn't been a system invented where you can't pencil him into. Simmons, is the system. Positions 1-3 exist to compliment him (if he plays sf its positions 1,2,4 then). I think Ingram translates easier but Simmons' game allows you to play "3 & D" point guards/combo guards and it puts power forwards in the most awkward position of defending the offensive initiator.

I think Ingram fits more systems but when we are talking about your #1-2 options you bend the team around them.

[PhilasFinest]

The good thing is...we really don't have a "system" to worry about fitting in.
These guys are potentially our key building blocks. We build AROUND them, not insert them into our 10 win team.

[theo42]

I definitely think they are leaning Simmons but a decision isn't final yet. I don't like how he views him as a 4. I think his value comes as a 3.

Oh well...

[PhilasFinest]

I definitely think they are leaning Simmons but a decision isn't final yet. I don't like how he views him as a 4. I think his value comes as a 3.

Oh well...

Maybe in a few years, he gets in peak shape and develops a jumper. If that happens, he can likely play some 3. Until then, Its probably bets to have him playing at his biggest advantage on the floor, which is probably gonna be against other 4's.

[Sportfan73]

I definitely think they are leaning Simmons but a decision isn't final yet. I don't like how he views him as a 4. I think his value comes as a 3.

Oh well...

Maybe in a few years, he gets in peak shape and develops a jumper. If that happens, he can likely play some 3. Until then, Its probably bets to have him playing at his biggest advantage on the floor, which is probably gonna be against other 4's.

I think he can start the game at the 3 but finish at the 4.

[Lou_23]

I dont think the comments about Murray and Dunn are very relevant, typical praises.

I will be stunned if he trades for a pick, media killed Hinkie for that

[MGB8]

Simmons is a poor man's Giannis - not quite the same length, not at all the same defensive intensity. Not sure why everyone thinks he is "transcendent" - he's not. Simmons is just physically more developed than other guys his age. Wait until he gets into the NBA and everyone is fairly strong. Remember what happened to Michael Beasley?

Yes, Simmons' a highly skilled ball handler and passer. But he's not a highly skilled shooter or post player (not even getting to the defense). And he hasn't shown the killer instinct that separates the guys who becomes superstars with the guys who just coast on talent - the Derrick Coleman's and Glenn Robinson's and Lamar Odom's.

[Easymoney]

Bryan Colangelo being so set on his pick, this early in the game, makes me very concerned about his capability as our GM. I've always leaned toward Ingram in this debate, but if Simmons was able to show something special in his interview and workout, I wouldn't be opposed to picking him. However, it seems that our GM has tunnel vision on a significant decision for our franchise. Put both men through the ringer and then make a final choice based on what you saw.

[BullyKing]

Put both men through the ringer and then make a final choice based on what you saw.

Other than using a different cliche, that's pretty much exactly what he said he was doing to do. I'm on record as hating the Colangelo move as much as the next Hinkie-ite but this just seems like looking for something to complain about.

[SparksFly87]

Sounds like Simmons at the 3 in a pointforward with Covington as his backup. Grant and Saric at the 4 . Embiid and Noel at.the 5. 1 and 2 spot with combo guards and sharpshooters. We will play like Cleveland with Lebron.

[SparksFly87]

Sounds like Simmons at the 3 in a pointforward role with Covington as his backup. Grant and Saric at the 4 . Embiid and Noel at.the 5. 1 and 2 spot with combo guards and sharpshooters. We will play like Cleveland with Lebron.

[eagereyez]

If BC did something like trade Okafor/26 to PHX for 4/13 he would definitely exceed my current expectations from him. It would show he is much less hurried than perceived by many fans (especially myself). A core of Simmons, Saric, Murray/Dunn, Embiid, and maybe Noel would be amazing. The tidbit on free agency is also music to my ears. Doesn't sound like he wants to blow all our cap space and picks this summer, which is a huge relief.

I could live with that, but it would surprise me if he did it.

At 4 we take Murray, and at 13 we take Valentine or Jackson.

I still think Okafor is better than that though, but we can be creative with Simmons now.

I think taking Jamal Murray at 4 and Dejounte Murray at 13 would be a pretty solid haul for Okafor. I prioritize Dejounte over Valentine/Jackson because Dejounte has greater potential, imo.

[joyeuxnoel]

If BC did something like trade Okafor/26 to PHX for 4/13 he would definitely exceed my current expectations from him. It would show he is much less hurried than perceived by many fans (especially myself). A core of Simmons, Saric, Murray/Dunn, Embiid, and maybe Noel would be amazing. The tidbit on free agency is also music to my ears. Doesn't sound like he wants to blow all our cap space and picks this summer, which is a huge relief.

I could live with that, but it would surprise me if he did it.

At 4 we take Murray, and at 13 we take Valentine or Jackson.

I still think Okafor is better than that though, but we can be creative with Simmons now.

I think taking Jamal Murray at 4 and Dejounte Murray at 13 would be a pretty solid haul for Okafor. I prioritize Dejounte over Valentine/Jackson because Dejounte has greater potential, imo.

never heard of dejounte murray, but no thanks

[eagereyez]

I could live with that, but it would surprise me if he did it.

At 4 we take Murray, and at 13 we take Valentine or Jackson.

I still think Okafor is better than that though, but we can be creative with Simmons now.

I think taking Jamal Murray at 4 and Dejounte Murray at 13 would be a pretty solid haul for Okafor. I prioritize Dejounte over Valentine/Jackson because Dejounte has greater potential, imo.

never heard of dejounte murray, but no thanks

Who would you take at 13 then?

[joyeuxnoel]

I think taking Jamal Murray at 4 and Dejounte Murray at 13 would be a pretty solid haul for Okafor. I prioritize Dejounte over Valentine/Jackson because Dejounte has greater potential, imo.

never heard of dejounte murray, but no thanks

Who would you take at 13 then?

i wouldnt do that trade period

id trade noel + late 1st rounders for just murray