Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

[mhunt]

love this kid. great pick!

[Tony Franciosa]

i really like this kid - a near perfect replacement for RoCo.

[eagereyez]

Sixers can't get enough of UW players it seems.

Hopefully Thybulle can become the Sixers' own version of Josh Hart. They will need a good defensive backup SG to insert for Redick.

[howiezbt]

Defense always projects to the next level. He will be elite in this regard. All time steals leader in the PAC 10 (over Gary Payton) from the wing spot is very impressive. Even more so that they played Zone a lot. We got a pro that will stick.

Shot looks like it is in form. Runs the floor very well.

The only issue is if he is duplicative of Zhaire which I don’t think he is because he can guard 1-4s once he bulks up.

Overall nice pick.

[BullyKing]

Sixers can't get enough of UW players it seems.

Hopefully Thybulle can become the Sixers' own version of Josh Hart. They will need a good defensive backup SG to insert for Redick.

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Isn't that what Zhaire was supposed to be?

[eagereyez]

Sixers can't get enough of UW players it seems.

Hopefully Thybulle can become the Sixers' own version of Josh Hart. They will need a good defensive backup SG to insert for Redick.

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Isn't that what Zhaire was supposed to be?

Zhaire hasn't proven anything yet. Makes sense to roll the dice again and hope one of them pans out.

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[Sixteen]

Great name for Philly. Thy Bul.

[Ben Simmons]

Good that we targeted defense, as we have no problem piling on the points.
Even if we lose Butler or Harris, our offense will be a lot better than our defense, so this is the perfect pick

[Negrodamus]

I'll post what I said in the draft thread over here to provide a devil's advocate for Thybulle's defensive upside:

I’m hoping that Thybulle’s defense translates. He’s going to enjoy that extra foul he gets in the NBA. I imagine a lot of the perimeter/midrange blocks he got will be called fouls in the NBA, unfortunately due to flopping. He’ll play the passing lanes well, but won’t have a zone to cover up his gambles. I don’t know what type of one on one defense he plays since they were perpetually in zone.

I think he has the athleticism, length, and instinct to be a defensive mainstay, but those are legitimate concerns for him. I'm not convinced we're going to lean into him in our rotation for meaningful minutes next year which will kinda throws the whole "older prospects will produce" thought process out the window.

[Eyeamok]

Can Markel Fultz give us any insight as to the kind of player Matisse is?

[LloydFree]

Some guys with different screen names, told me Markelle Fultz didn't have one NBA level teammate at Washington. How did this happen?

[Sixerscan]

I'll post what I said in the draft thread over here to provide a devil's advocate for Thybulle's defensive upside:

I’m hoping that Thybulle’s defense translates. He’s going to enjoy that extra foul he gets in the NBA. I imagine a lot of the perimeter/midrange blocks he got will be called fouls in the NBA, unfortunately due to flopping. He’ll play the passing lanes well, but won’t have a zone to cover up his gambles. I don’t know what type of one on one defense he plays since they were perpetually in zone.

I think he has the athleticism, length, and instinct to be a defensive mainstay, but those are legitimate concerns for him. I'm not convinced we're going to lean into him in our rotation for meaningful minutes next year which will kinda throws the whole "older prospects will produce" thought process out the window.

Well, with your other point, at least that means any fouling he does won’t be as huge of a concern.

Brand/Brown clearly have an identity they want for this team. Having Ben and hopefully Jimmy as lead ball handlers means they can have a rotation where no one besides Redick is a physical liability on defense.

[Negrodamus]

Can Markel Fultz give us any insight as to the kind of player Matisse is?

Markelle's usage was an excuse for why Thybulle didn't really produce offensive numbers. Then he left and still kinda sucked offensively.

[Negrodamus]

I'll post what I said in the draft thread over here to provide a devil's advocate for Thybulle's defensive upside:

I’m hoping that Thybulle’s defense translates. He’s going to enjoy that extra foul he gets in the NBA. I imagine a lot of the perimeter/midrange blocks he got will be called fouls in the NBA, unfortunately due to flopping. He’ll play the passing lanes well, but won’t have a zone to cover up his gambles. I don’t know what type of one on one defense he plays since they were perpetually in zone.

I think he has the athleticism, length, and instinct to be a defensive mainstay, but those are legitimate concerns for him. I'm not convinced we're going to lean into him in our rotation for meaningful minutes next year which will kinda throws the whole "older prospects will produce" thought process out the window.

Well, with your other point, at least that means any fouling he does won’t be as huge of a concern.

Brand/Brown clearly have an identity they want for this team. Having Ben and hopefully Jimmy as lead ball handlers means they can have a rotation where no one besides Redick is a physical liability on defense.

I don't know, he fouls at a pretty high rate and that's before playing against the cheap tricks pros like Harden have in their back pocket. He'll likely get accustomed to those in time like all players do, but it will take time. In the meantime, he has zero offensive game to fall back on.

I mean, look at the splits: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matisse-thybulle-1/splits/2019?&per_game=1

When his team loses, he is not an NBA prospect. I understand a dip in the numbers, but he was worthless in those 9 games (in his senior year no less). Here's teammate Jaylen Nowell for comparison: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jaylen-nowell-1/splits/2019?&per_game=1 . He maintains some kind of consistency.

[Sixerscan]

I'll post what I said in the draft thread over here to provide a devil's advocate for Thybulle's defensive upside:



I think he has the athleticism, length, and instinct to be a defensive mainstay, but those are legitimate concerns for him. I'm not convinced we're going to lean into him in our rotation for meaningful minutes next year which will kinda throws the whole "older prospects will produce" thought process out the window.

Well, with your other point, at least that means any fouling he does won’t be as huge of a concern.

Brand/Brown clearly have an identity they want for this team. Having Ben and hopefully Jimmy as lead ball handlers means they can have a rotation where no one besides Redick is a physical liability on defense.

I don't know, he fouls at a pretty high rate and that's before playing against the cheap tricks pros like Harden have in their back pocket. He'll likely get accustomed to those in time like all players do, but it will take time. In the meantime, he has zero offensive game to fall back on.

I mean, look at the splits: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matisse-thybulle-1/splits/2019?&per_game=1

When his team loses, he is not an NBA prospect. I understand a dip in the numbers, but he was worthless in those 9 games (in his senior year no less). Here's teammate Jaylen Nowell for comparison: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jaylen-nowell-1/splits/2019?&per_game=1 . He maintains some kind of consistency.

I meant that he’s only going to be playing like 15 mpg and so it would be tough for him to foul out in that time. Just tell him to go out there and go nuts as a rookie and expand based on how he does.

As far as the offense goes, this team with the way it staggers high volume stars, a guy that doesn’t want shots is less of a big deal. The big thing with him is can he get his shot to the point where teams are worried about him and he has gravity.

I’m sure Brown sees him as his new Covington. They’re obviously different prospects (Cov was a forward and a shooter with no interest in D) but he will try to mold him into a similar player.

[Negrodamus]

Well, with your other point, at least that means any fouling he does won’t be as huge of a concern.

Brand/Brown clearly have an identity they want for this team. Having Ben and hopefully Jimmy as lead ball handlers means they can have a rotation where no one besides Redick is a physical liability on defense.

I don't know, he fouls at a pretty high rate and that's before playing against the cheap tricks pros like Harden have in their back pocket. He'll likely get accustomed to those in time like all players do, but it will take time. In the meantime, he has zero offensive game to fall back on.

I mean, look at the splits: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matisse-thybulle-1/splits/2019?&per_game=1

When his team loses, he is not an NBA prospect. I understand a dip in the numbers, but he was worthless in those 9 games (in his senior year no less). Here's teammate Jaylen Nowell for comparison: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jaylen-nowell-1/splits/2019?&per_game=1 . He maintains some kind of consistency.

I meant that he’s only going to be playing like 15 mpg and so it would be tough for him to foul out in that time. Just tell him to go out there and go nuts as a rookie and expand based on how he does.

As far as the offense goes, this team with the way it staggers high volume stars, a guy that doesn’t want shots is less of a big deal. The big thing with him is can he get his shot to the point where teams are worried about him and he has gravity.

I’m sure Brown sees him as his new Covington. They’re obviously different prospects (Cov was a forward and a shooter with no interest in D) but he will try to mold him into a similar player.

I suppose that’s true, however I feel like he will be prone to getting silly fouls that will force Brett to pull him. We’re going to be pulling our hair out a bit next year with him on both ends. Probably more than a usual rookie.

[Negrodamus]

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His number should be 57 to remind him that we needed to use 24 and 33 just to pick him.

[brannigan73]

As usual the group think has kicked in and everyone is mindlessly praising this pick. As usual I'll have no problem taking the other side. To my mind the main needs for this team was shooting and a big to groom into a quality back up for Embiid. Instead we take another defense heavy wing with a marginal offensive game that we are projecting to improve a lot on offense. Call me crazy but we already have Zaire Smith to develop. Brand also made some comments about some of the picks they basically gave away saying that basically they are contenders so they cant expect to playing a lot of young developmental players and they draft another upside guy in the mold of a guy they already have in Smith. And please with the Covginton comparisons Robert was a better shooter then this guy in collge. Im not impressed at all and frankly Im beginning to think Elton Brand is an idiot. Kyle Nuebeck does a good job explaining how Brand got rolled over at Philly voice. But by all means lets celebrate this draft!

[Arsenal]

No doubt Brand got rolled but I'm not sure who would have been a better pick for us at that spot. As long as the guy can learn to hit open 3's he'll be a valuable player in the Danny Green / RoCo mold.