Ben Simmons Trade Thread

Iverson Armband · Post #21 » by **Iverson Armband** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:19 am

The audacity of some people sticking their nose up at a Ben/Lavine swap at this point... is beyond nuts. You’d be lucky to get an Italian shorti and peach tea from WaWa for this clown at this point. But hey, I guess he’s still better than Brandon Ingram and Jaylen Brown :lol:

If Zach were on this team in place of Ben we sweep the Hawks

Jhawk03 · Post #22 » by **Jhawk03** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:23 am

One step at a time

First solve the riddle of trading a player... (a player that 29 other GMs, even Billy King tier GMs know) that everyone knows they can bend you over Ainge style because you're FINALLY fed up. Good luck

Roy The Natural · Post #23 » by **Roy The Natural** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:29 am

Jhawk03 wrote:One step at a time

First solve the riddle of trading a player... (a player that 29 other GMs, even Billy King tier GMs know) that everyone knows they can bend you over Ainge style because you're FINALLY fed up. Good luck

That's why I think the CJ trade seems the most plausible and palatable for all sides. CJ's a fine player, I can't see Philly losing this series if you swap Ben for CJ. However, even if Portland was trying to bend Philly over a barrel, one of the goals of the Portland FO is going to be to move CJ. Powell slots in nicely as a replacement for him and CJ makes the roster unbalanced. The CJ for Simmons trade just make sense. I think Portland adds to it, just unsure on what's going to be added given these playoffs.

Negrodamus · Post #24 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:41 am

If New York decides to aggressively pitch a premier free agent this offseason, DeRozan would seem to fit the mold of a player receptive to Thibodeau's culture. The Spurs' swingman is believed to have an interest in returning to the Eastern Conference, sources said,

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2941224-knicks-finally-impressing-nba-stars-but-will-front-office-chase-big-names

Pop gets an immensely talented but flawed young player to go with his fleet of young scorers. They could start contending this upcoming year and they'll be trading a player they'll lose to FA anyway.

Sixers get a guard who was 7th in FTA (88%) 11th in assist (7pg) and a 20+ ppg scorer. The Lowry enticement aside, DeRozan matches up with Embiid infinitely better than Simmons. One of the best midrange guys in the game who gets to the line a ton, which puts pressure on the defense and gives Embiid a breather. The ship hath sailed on blue chip players. Time to get an elite creator to pair with Embiid.

WindyCityBorn · Post #25 » by **WindyCityBorn** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:42 am

okboomer wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:If we're going the CJ route, I'd rather get Lavine. He should be available for Ben, or maybe Ben + picks

Unfortunately the Beal trade has sailed (we though we could get him for Tobi and filler).

Dame is out of our reach unless we give the Harden package and then some.

There’s a reason why Zach has been on awful teams his entire career

Im not a huge fan of Lavine but at this point, they need to try something different other than Ben. If they trade for Lavine and it fails, so be it. But it has failed with Ben too. I dont want them to get Derozan though.

Bulls would never willingly trade LaVine for Simmons.

Post #26 » by **sixers hoops** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:47 am

Negrodamus wrote:You guys are in for a surprise when you find out Ben is not worth what you think he is. He just got caught with his pants down in yet another playoff series. No one cares about his accolades and near DPOY status if he's doo doo in the playoffs. His value is rough right now. Bordering on reclamation project.

I can only see that contract getting moved for an equally bad contract

DCasey91 · Post #27 » by **DCasey91** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:49 am

Harris and pick swap for Wall

Ben and the pick swap for Jalen flipping Green on draft night. Sign Hart (FA) and get smoking Joe Ingles for Milton + Hill and a 1st swap. Trade Thybulle for Goga and a future 1st from the Pacers.

PG - John Wall
SG - Jalen Green
SF - Josh Hart
PF - Joe Ingles
C - Joel Embiid

6th man - Seth Curry
SG - Tyrese Maxey
Backup C - Goga Bitadze
Stretch PF - Sign Glenn Rob the 3rd
Hype Man - BBall Paul
28th pick - Morey drafts a randy no name that turns out to be pretty good lol

Welcome to Meme City!!!

Post #28 » by **sixers hoops** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:52 am

WindyCityBorn wrote:
okboomer wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
There’s a reason why Zach has been on awful teams his entire career

Im not a huge fan of Lavine but at this point, they need to try something different other than Ben. If they trade for Lavine and it fails, so be it. But it has failed with Ben too. I dont want them to get Derozan though.

Bulls would never willingly trade LaVine for Simmons.

Well some of these proposals are under the assumption we have the other team’s GM at gunpoint, which would explain why they are so lopsided.

Negrodamus · Post #29 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:52 am

DCasey91 wrote:Harris and pick swap for Wall

Ben and the pick swap for Jalen flipping Green on draft night. Sign Hart and get smoking Joe Ingles for Milton/Hill and a 1st swap. Trade Thybulle for a future 1st unprotected from the Rockets lol.

John Wall
Jalen Green
Josh Hart
Joe Ingles
Joel Embiid

6th man: Seth Curry
Tyrese Maxey
Backup big (Goga?)
Stretch 4 Glenn Rob 3

Welcome to meme city!

Am I having a stroke or have you already posted this exact scenario?

Tomjas · Post #30 » by **Tomjas** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:53 am

okboomer wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:If we're going the CJ route, I'd rather get Lavine. He should be available for Ben, or maybe Ben + picks

Unfortunately the Beal trade has sailed (we though we could get him for Tobi and filler).

Dame is out of our reach unless we give the Harden package and then some.

There’s a reason why Zach has been on awful teams his entire career

Im not a huge fan of Lavine but at this point, they need to try something different other than Ben. If they trade for Lavine and it fails, so be it. But it has failed with Ben too. I dont want them to get Derozan though.

Ben needs to go for both the team’s and his sake but people need to be careful what they wish for

Lavine no

D’lo hell no

Wall hell no

Lowry yes

Derozan only if part of more moves and a reunion with Kyle ain’t it

Post #31 » by **sixers hoops** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:53 am

Negrodamus wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:Harris and pick swap for Wall

Ben and the pick swap for Jalen flipping Green on draft night. Sign Hart and get smoking Joe Ingles for Milton/Hill and a 1st swap. Trade Thybulle for a future 1st unprotected from the Rockets lol.

John Wall
Jalen Green
Josh Hart
Joe Ingles
Joel Embiid

6th man: Seth Curry
Tyrese Maxey
Backup big (Goga?)
Stretch 4 Glenn Rob 3

Welcome to meme city!

Am I having a stroke or have you already posted this exact scenario?

Could be that both are true

okboomer · Post #32 » by **okboomer** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:56 am

sixers hoops wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
okboomer wrote:
Im not a huge fan of Lavine but at this point, they need to try something different other than Ben. If they trade for Lavine and it fails, so be it. But it has failed with Ben too. I dont want them to get Derozan though.

Bulls would never willingly trade LaVine for Simmons.

Well some of these proposals are under the assumption we have the other team’s GM at gunpoint, which would explain why they are so lopsided.

I was thinking more like compromising photos of gms, but this works too.

Negrodamus · Post #33 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:56 am

Tomjas wrote:
okboomer wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
There’s a reason why Zach has been on awful teams his entire career

Im not a huge fan of Lavine but at this point, they need to try something different other than Ben. If they trade for Lavine and it fails, so be it. But it has failed with Ben too. I dont want them to get Derozan though.

Ben needs to go for both the team’s and his sake but people need to be careful what they wish for

Lavine no

D’lo hell no

Wall hell no

Lowry yes

Derozan only if part of more moves and a reunion with Kyle ain’t it

Wait, you'd trade Ben for Lowry?

DCasey91 · Post #34 » by **DCasey91** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:56 am

Negrodamus wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:Harris and pick swap for Wall

Ben and the pick swap for Jalen flipping Green on draft night. Sign Hart and get smoking Joe Ingles for Milton/Hill and a 1st swap. Trade Thybulle for a future 1st unprotected from the Rockets lol.

John Wall
Jalen Green
Josh Hart
Joe Ingles
Joel Embiid

6th man: Seth Curry
Tyrese Maxey
Backup big (Goga?)
Stretch 4 Glenn Rob 3

Welcome to meme city!

Am I having a stroke or have you already posted this exact scenario?

Nah this is easily the best team for entertainment purposes. Wall + Green will bring in loads of fun and excitement

Stribor · Post #35 » by **Stribor** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:59 am

Would like to see if we could get Kyrie for Ben and something around him. Nets need defense, we need creator. It could be a win-win for both teams.

Negrodamus · Post #36 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:01 am

DCasey91 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:Harris and pick swap for Wall

Ben and the pick swap for Jalen flipping Green on draft night. Sign Hart and get smoking Joe Ingles for Milton/Hill and a 1st swap. Trade Thybulle for a future 1st unprotected from the Rockets lol.

John Wall
Jalen Green
Josh Hart
Joe Ingles
Joel Embiid

6th man: Seth Curry
Tyrese Maxey
Backup big (Goga?)
Stretch 4 Glenn Rob 3

Welcome to meme city!

Am I having a stroke or have you already posted this exact scenario?

Nah this is easily the best team for entertainment purposes. Wall + Green will bring in loads of fun and excitement

Oh, it was in the Fantasy Thread. So you want everyone with a first name starting with "J"? Is that the meme? I guess that's one way to build a team.

Post #37 » by **sixers hoops** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:03 am

Stribor wrote:Would like to see if we could get Kyrie for Ben and something around him. Nets need defense, we need creator. It could be a win-win for both teams.

Actually the Nets are prob the one team that would be okay if he never shot, always passed, played defense, and stood in the dunker’s spot to swat rebounds back out. They may be a great fit for him.

DCasey91 · Post #38 » by **DCasey91** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:04 am

Negrodamus wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Am I having a stroke or have you already posted this exact scenario?

Nah this is easily the best team for entertainment purposes. Wall + Green will bring in loads of fun and excitement

Oh, it was in the Fantasy Thread. So you want everyone with a first name starting with "J"? Is that the meme? I guess that's one way to build a team.

Yes

also it’s a very well built team. 3x ballhandlers, PG that no one wants but can def play all star quality from that position. A Young super stud in the making.
That backcourt has ridiculous potential.

Also Ingles/Embiid duo game would look a class above Ingles/Gobert’s two man game.

Tomjas · Post #39 » by **Tomjas** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:10 am

Negrodamus wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
okboomer wrote:
Im not a huge fan of Lavine but at this point, they need to try something different other than Ben. If they trade for Lavine and it fails, so be it. But it has failed with Ben too. I dont want them to get Derozan though.

Ben needs to go for both the team’s and his sake but people need to be careful what they wish for

Lavine no

D’lo hell no

Wall hell no

Lowry yes

Derozan only if part of more moves and a reunion with Kyle ain’t it

Wait, you'd trade Ben for Lowry?

I would go after Lowry but have no idea what it will take

Suspect he either stays at Toronto or moves to Miami anyway

Ben & Siakam ain’t it so will require 3rd team

Ben should go west

Stribor · Post #40 » by **Stribor** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:13 am

sixers hoops wrote:
Stribor wrote:Would like to see if we could get Kyrie for Ben and something around him. Nets need defense, we need creator. It could be a win-win for both teams.

Actually the Nets are prob the one team that would be okay if he never shot, always passed, played defense, and stood in the dunker’s spot to swat rebounds back out. They may be a great fit for him.

In all honesty I am no super high on Kyrie, but I am 100% sure he would be significant improvement over Ben. Probably the best one can realistically hope for. I do not think there will be much interest for other clubs except those that really need defense and are full of shooters. Basically only nets and Jazz seem as teams that could think Ben could move a needle for them, and Jazz realy do not have anyone useful for us that they could potentially be willing to trade.