Doc Rivers is an under the radar coach of the year candidate

[Murray_17]

OP has defended Doc before so, no. For those asking, this is not a troll thread

[spikeslovechild]

He's kept the team afloat being the most injured team in the NBA and they've managed to hang in there. He gets trashed all the time, sometimes fairly, sometimes unfairly, but just wanted to give the guy his due when he deserves it.

I've defended Doc in the past because honestly he is a Basketball lifer and he deserves much more respect than the board and casuals give him but he just makes some indefensible decisions.

Sometimes it just doesn't work out for whatever reason. I still think he is night and day better than Brett Brown and for those who think it can't be worse it can and we saw it for seven years. With that being said I don't know if Doc is the coach we need to get us over the hump to win a championship which is weird because he has won two in the past both as a player and a coach.

I just don't have faith in his rotations, especially at the end of games. Too many late collapses for a variety of reasons many of which are his fault.

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[Eyeamok]

The injuries have allowed Doc to see what he has on his bench and develop it. Doc has made mistakes, allowing players to play injured and almost blowing the game last night (against the Lakers), just to name a few. But the good thing is the mistakes and the injuries have all occurred in the first 1/4 of the season. Going forward, when Maxey returns, its all about coaching and utilizing the talent that he has to the best of their abilities. No way this team should not be in the ECF this season. The B team has beat the Bucks and the Nets and solid coaching and not repeating mistakes should take this team far. The 76ers record right now is not a true reflection of what is possible this season..

[mjkvol]

solid coaching and not repeating mistakes should take this team far.

I can't decide if you're being serious or this is a joke. Has to be a joke. Good one.

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General question for all, but I think Rivers actually did all he could prior to the collapse. Several players just blew it.


The timeout a certain board member is bitching about was an offense/defense move.

Repeated turnovers by Harden with token pressure. Rivers calls timeout, gets open 3 for Melton and makes it. Subs in Tisse for defense instead of Milton... They let Reaves get a quick 2 with their defensive squad. Calls time to get Milton in for Tisse on offense to have better ft shooting.... The team just blows it. Missed free throws.... Can't get it in. Bad defense.

Okay then the reason is that the team that never plays together isn't ready because of coaching. Well they dominated overtime.

Am I missing something? Should he have played the great Paul Reed more? That's the usual reason for every loss

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Why u no likey Bball Paul mi amigo?

[M2J]

Why u no likey Bball Paul mi amigo?

I have no personal dislike actually. I think he's too inconsistent to be a reliable backup for a team with title hoes hopes. He needs to play for a tanking team.

But, I like to kick him when he's down because I find it crazy that the number 1 reason 76er fans want to fire Doc for is due to him knowing he can't rely on Reed as a backup center. The fans always ask for more Reed in a loss, but there are crickets when he essentially gives up a double digit lead in 3 minutes.

[eyeatoma]

Why u no likey Bball Paul mi amigo?

I have no personal dislike actually. I think he's too inconsistent to be a reliable backup for a team with title hoes hopes. He needs to play for a tanking team.

But, I like to kick him when he's down because I find it crazy that the number 1 reason 76er fans want to fire Doc for is due to him knowing he can't rely on Reed as a backup center. The fans always ask for more Reed in a loss, but there are crickets when he essentially gives up a double digit lead in 3 minutes.

He is not the reason I want Doc gone.

Plenty of other more important reasons.

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[Murray_17]

I've defended Doc in the past because honestly he is a Basketball lifer and he deserves much more respect than the board and casuals give him but he just makes some indefensible decisions.

Sometimes it just doesn't work out for whatever reason. I still think he is night and day better than Brett Brown and for those who think it can't be worse it can and we saw it for seven years. With that being said I don't know if Doc is the coach we need to get us over the hump to win a championship which is weird because he has won two in the past both as a player and a coach.

I just don't have faith in his rotations, especially at the end of games. Too many late collapses for a variety of reasons many of which are his fault.

Brett had his issues but at least he draw plays after Time outs instead of having Embiid having to fight Davis for the ball every time

[Murray_17]

The timeout a certain board member is bitching about was an offense/defense move.

Oh come on, this cannot be serious.

In any case, why would you need offense with 24 secs and a 7 points advantage? you just let the run clock and force the opposing team to foul you, calling a time-out to advance the ball in that situation is stupid already when you can burn 5 or 6 secs just by crossing the midcourt.

Even if you lose the ball and, in the worst case, they score a 3. You have a 4 points advantage with less than 15 seconds and THEN you can use your last timeout if you need to.

Not to mention, that your statement about putting Milton there is absurd when the play after the time out (and all the inbounds) is trying to give the ball to embiid. It was super easy for the Lakers to stop us on the inbounds when Embiid is trying to post Davis on our own side of the floor.

They didn't have any play called from the inbounds in any of those situations and that's a coaching issue. How in the **** you cannot have a simple inbounds call/play not to even score but to secure the **** ball?.

Edit: About the Harden issue and turnovers at the end, maybe part of the problem is playing him 41 minutes of regulation in a December game against the Lakers when Milton is playing great. Not that Harden looks amazing out there but, if that's right, more reason to not play him THAT much.

[spikeslovechild]

I've defended Doc in the past because honestly he is a Basketball lifer and he deserves much more respect than the board and casuals give him but he just makes some indefensible decisions.

Sometimes it just doesn't work out for whatever reason. I still think he is night and day better than Brett Brown and for those who think it can't be worse it can and we saw it for seven years. With that being said I don't know if Doc is the coach we need to get us over the hump to win a championship which is weird because he has won two in the past both as a player and a coach.

I just don't have faith in his rotations, especially at the end of games. Too many late collapses for a variety of reasons many of which are his fault.

Brett had his issues but at least he draw plays after Time outs instead of having Embiid having to fight Davis for the ball every time

Did he was almost always turned the ball over out of a Brett Brown timeout.

It didn't look like he drew much if any plays

[Murray_17]

Did he was almost always turned the ball over out of a Brett Brown timeout.

It didn't look like he drew much if any plays

Just one random year, but in 2018 we were 1.22 points per ATO play

[M2J]

The timeout a certain board member is bitching about was an offense/defense move.

Oh come on, this cannot be serious.

In any case, why would you need offense with 24 secs and a 7 points advantage? you just let the run clock and force the opposing team to foul you, calling a time-out to advance the ball in that situation is stupid already when you can burn 5 or 6 secs just by crossing the midcourt.

Even if you lose the ball and, in the worst case, they score a 3. You have a 4 points advantage with less than 15 seconds and THEN you can use your last timeout if you need to.

Not to mention, that your statement about putting Milton there is absurd when the play after the time out (and all the inbounds) is trying to give the ball to embiid. It was super easy for the Lakers to stop us on the inbounds when Embiid is trying to post Davis on our own side of the floor.

They didn't have any play called from the inbounds in any of those situations and that's a coaching issue. How in the **** you cannot have a simple inbounds call/play not to even score but to secure the **** ball?.

Edit: About the Harden issue and turnovers at the end, maybe part of the problem is playing him 41 minutes of regulation in a December game against the Lakers when Milton is playing great. Not that Harden looks amazing out there but, if that's right, more reason to not play him THAT much.

Without overthinking it as you clearly have. You call the damn time out because your team is reeling. You put in a better free throw shooter and passer. What does it matter if the intention is to inbound the ball to Joel. Everyone has a player they want to get the ball to, but you put in other options. They should have found anybody who could actually get an open look. That was clearly the coaches intent. There are several options out there.

If he didn't call a timeout to try and help them when they were breaking down 10 more board members would've asked why, and they would've had better ammunition than you.

And give me a break about an all star veteran requesting a max contract turning the ball over in critical moments casually. Has nothing to do with his minutes. That's a stretch.

[Murray_17]

Without overthinking it as you clearly have. You call the damn time out because your team is reeling. You put in a better free throw shooter and passer. What does it matter if the intention is to inbound the ball to Joel. Everyone has a player they want to get the ball to, but you put in other options. They should have found anybody who could actually get an open look. That was clearly the coaches intent. There are several options out there.

If he didn't call a timeout to try and help them when they were breaking down 10 more board members would've asked why, and they would've had better ammunition than you.

And give me a break about a veteran requesting a max contract turning the ball over in critical moments. Has nothing to do with his minutes. That's a stretch.

Let say i overthink the play, like you claim.

Are you really telling me he called the time-out because the team was reeling and he didn't call a play that wasn't "give the ball to Embiid on the 3 point line"?

Your claim about "that was the coaches intent" is hilarious, have you stopped to think he could have call an ATO to make sure that someone got an open look?

Just sayin....

[M2J]

Without overthinking it as you clearly have. You call the damn time out because your team is reeling. You put in a better free throw shooter and passer. What does it matter if the intention is to inbound the ball to Joel. Everyone has a player they want to get the ball to, but you put in other options. They should have found anybody who could actually get an open look. That was clearly the coaches intent. There are several options out there.

If he didn't call a timeout to try and help them when they were breaking down 10 more board members would've asked why, and they would've had better ammunition than you.

And give me a break about a veteran requesting a max contract turning the ball over in critical moments. Has nothing to do with his minutes. That's a stretch.

Let say i overthink the play, like you claim.

Are you really telling me he called the time-out because the team was reeling and he didn't call a play that wasn't "give the ball to Embiid on the 3 point line"?

Your claim about "that was the coaches intent" is hilarious, have you stopped to think he could have call an ATO to make sure that someone got an open look?

Just sayin....

An open look at what? They didn't need to make a shot (I know that's not what you're saying). He called the timeout, so that his star laden team would have the entire court to get the ball in to all quality shooters, and a play was clearly called. Joel set a pick for you Tobi who ran and hustled, and Harden who jogged like a lazy fat bum instead of coming to get the ball, and Milton. Leaving Joel with a small Pat Beverly on his back Melton made a lazy pass and Westbrook made a great play. They just went through the motions like the game was over, but that was a clear play called. Instead of going to option A, other options should have tried harder. You also have the Milton option instead of Tisse so that there are no poor options. This is indisputable. Please watch again. They just played like the game was over, as they have been doing for the last couple of minutes and that's why the coach called the time out.

Would you rather him call the time out with the seven point lead to try to ice it or wait until the last couple of seconds where he could have used the time out? The time out that he should have never needed if the team had executed.

[Murray_17]

An open look at what? They didn't need to make a shot (I know that's not what you're saying). He called the timeout, so that his star laden team would have the entire court to get the ball in to all quality shooters, and a play was clearly called. Joel set a pick for you Tobi who ran and hustled, and Harden who jogged like a lazy fat bum instead of coming to get the ball, and Milton. Leaving Joel with a small Pat Beverly on his back Melton made a lazy pass and Westbrook made a great play. They just went through the motions like the game was over, but that was a clear play called. Instead of going to option A, other options should have tried harder. You also have the Milton option instead of Tisse so that there are no poor options. This is indisputable. Please watch again. They just played like the game was over, as they have been doing for the last couple of minutes and that's why the coach called the time out.

Melton is with Davis on front, the only pass he has is a lob to Joel, the lob is what allows Westbrook to get in front ot the ballm he has a pass to Milton on the corner but he's probably following what they draw....The so called play is obviously a pass to Joel who is trying to get position on the ball inside the paint, everyone was anticipating that and is the reason Davis is on front of the inbounds and not guarding Joel.


The fact you can see this and the fault goes from Melton to Harden but nothing to doc is hilarious, but sure, i'm the one over thinking it.

Would you rather him call the time out with the seven point lead to try to ice it or wait until the last couple of seconds where he could have used the time out? The time out that he should have never needed if the team had executed.

Read yourself again, you're trying to rationalize the situation to the point of "he should have not been put on the situation "instead of analyzing if the timeout was detrimental.

[M2J]

An open look at what? They didn't need to make a shot (I know that's not what you're saying). He called the timeout, so that his star laden team would have the entire court to get the ball in to all quality shooters, and a play was clearly called. Joel set a pick for you Tobi who ran and hustled, and Harden who jogged like a lazy fat bum instead of coming to get the ball, and Milton. Leaving Joel with a small Pat Beverly on his back Melton made a lazy pass and Westbrook made a great play. They just went through the motions like the game was over, but that was a clear play called. Instead of going to option A, other options should have tried harder. You also have the Milton option instead of Tisse so that there are no poor options. This is indisputable. Please watch again. They just played like the game was over, as they have been doing for the last couple of minutes and that's why the coach called the time out.

Melton is with Davis on front, the only pass he has is a lob to Joel, the lob is what allows Westbrook to get in front ot the ballm he has a pass to Milton on the corner but he's probably following what they draw....The so called play is obviously a pass to Joel who is trying to get position on the ball inside the paint, everyone was anticipating that and is the reason Davis is on front of the inbounds and not guarding Joel.


The fact you can see this and the fault goes from Melton to Harden but nothing to doc is hilarious, but sure, i'm the one over thinking it.

Would you rather him call the time out with the seven point lead to try to ice it or wait until the last couple of seconds where he could have used the time out? The time out that he should have never needed if the team had executed.

Read yourself again, you're trying to rationalize the situation to the point of "he should have not been put on the situation "instead of analyzing if the timeout was detrimental.

The only possible scenario is Joel? Really?

Not if they try to get freakin open. Try again. I'm actually impressed you haven't moved to the lack of Paul Reed

We move the line from no play... To the intention of the obvious play.

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Agree with M2J here. Most of it is because the guys play like the game is over. We also missed key free throws, trademark embiid TOs and trademark Thybulle fouling 3pters.

For instance, on the inbound 3:18 mark. Biid was relying the refs will blow the whistle but we all know the refs want this to happen.
“How is that not a foul on Davis” - Kate Scott
“There might have a foul there it doesnt matter. You have to be stronger than that” - Alaa