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Re: I'm so ready for this era of Sixers basketball to end and start the next chapter 

Post#21 » by phifans » Thu Jan 9, 2025 6:28 am

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Another window has opened.

It’s on trading for Maxey.

Would you trade him?


I wouldn't mind but the more important thing is how do you deal with Embiid and PG ?


You don’t sell low; you sell high.

If you’re looking to trade Embiid or George, it likely means their value has dropped—because if you don’t want them, chances are, no one else does either.

Now, let’s talk about Maxey. He’s already putting up a strong 25 PPG with 2 steals per game and has the potential to Bradley Beal his way to a 30 PPG season.


You sell high when you can still turn things around ... like two years ago. Now you are stuck with Embiid and PG. Just trading Maxey for the sake of a trade but have no idea what to do with Joel&PG won't make things any better. It's just like you have a headache but decide to cut your feet.
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Post#22 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Thu Jan 9, 2025 7:06 am

Maxey for ingram might do it
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Post#23 » by 76ciology » Thu Jan 9, 2025 7:57 am

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I wouldn't mind but the more important thing is how do you deal with Embiid and PG ?


You don’t sell low; you sell high.

If you’re looking to trade Embiid or George, it likely means their value has dropped—because if you don’t want them, chances are, no one else does either.

Now, let’s talk about Maxey. He’s already putting up a strong 25 PPG with 2 steals per game and has the potential to Bradley Beal his way to a 30 PPG season.


You sell high when you can still turn things around ... like two years ago. Now you are stuck with Embiid and PG. Just trading Maxey for the sake of a trade but have no idea what to do with Joel&PG won't make things any better. It's just like you have a headache but decide to cut your feet.

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Re: I'm so ready for this era of Sixers basketball to end and start the next chapter 

Post#24 » by 76ciology » Thu Jan 9, 2025 7:58 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Maxey for ingram might do it


It's just like you have a headache but decide to cut your feet.
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Post#25 » by Iverson Armband » Thu Jan 9, 2025 12:31 pm

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phifans wrote:It should have been over two years ago ... u know ... when James Harden asked to be out and Joel still had peak value. But of course this stupid org do not have the ball to do the right thing.


Another window has opened.

It’s on trading for Maxey.

Would you trade him?


For the right return/player yes. For example...Who won the Haliburton for Sabonis trade? I mean, that was about as even of a trade I have ever seen. So something like that. Fair for both teams involved.

The only reason why I'd even be on board with moving Maxey is because we haven't been able to win games with him as our main guy. He's had almost a seasons worth of games to prove it and we're a bottom level team with him as a number one option. He's got time to prove differently, so we'll see.

If we're trading Maxey, what's fair value, and more importantly why are we doing this? The only way trading Maxey makes sense is if it makes sense for the teams involved. Maxey has to be deemed a better fit for whoever is trading for him and vice versa.
None of the top tier NBA teams would even be options so cross them off.

Teams that make sense...
San Antonio- They have players we'd probably be interested in if they wanted to make an offer on Maxey.

Sacramento- If Fox asks out, then a Maxey for Fox swap might be an option. It's not as lateral of a move as it sounds.

Denver- for Murray

New Orleans- for Ingram maybe???

Point is there aren't many options at this time. I think Maxey is probably part of the future as much as he is a part of the present. He's seems content here, we just paid him, obviously he's loved here. I'm curious to see how far he can take his game and to what level.

I don't think Maxey gets moved. I think it'll be Embiid in the off-season. I think the plan is to showcase Embiid whenever the knee allows it and sell in the summer. I hate it, but I think it finally happens.

The guy I'd like to see moved would be George. Bad signing, colossal franchise sinking mistake. I was against it when we did it and he has disappointed us all by not disappointing. Paul George has officially been the nail in this eras coffin. We are just a dead team walking. The sad part is it won't be a quick turnaround. Not unless we get lucky.

I’d move Maxey for Castle and picks… Spurs get their PG for Wemby. McCain/Castle is a backcourt that can play together for 5+ years.
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Post#26 » by GoSixersBro » Thu Jan 9, 2025 1:08 pm

What we as sports fans easily forget is money.

The Sixers have been in the top 3 in attendance since 2018.

This team has not sustained this level of popularity in the city, especially for an eight year span, since the 80's.

While even if Harris adopted an NBA GM level of thinking and worked closely with Morey, he'd literally be gambling away massive profits to trade this franchise's first MVP in 20 years who made the team relevant after being nothing for over 15 seasons.

Not saying I'm one way or the other, but just giving you all the actual explanation. Harris would never trade Embiid without a demand from the player himself.
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Post#27 » by mjkvol » Thu Jan 9, 2025 1:59 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The guy I'd like to see moved would be George. Bad signing, colossal franchise sinking mistake. I was against it when we did it and he has disappointed us all by not disappointing. Paul George has officially been the nail in this eras coffin. We are just a dead team walking. The sad part is it won't be a quick turnaround. Not unless we get lucky.


What made the George signing so bad is that it was the ultimate unforced error that the slightest amount of foresight could see a mile away. The idea that this guy, at 34 yrs. old with a history of coming up small in big spots and with zero motivation to play in Philly, was going to be any different than what we've seen is the height of delusion. He got his bag, which was all he wanted.

It's a tossup as to whether it was better or worse than the Tobias signing, but I'd say worse simply because it is indeed the final nail in the Embiid era's coffin.
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Post#28 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Jan 9, 2025 2:34 pm

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:The guy I'd like to see moved would be George. Bad signing, colossal franchise sinking mistake. I was against it when we did it and he has disappointed us all by not disappointing. Paul George has officially been the nail in this eras coffin. We are just a dead team walking. The sad part is it won't be a quick turnaround. Not unless we get lucky.


What made the George signing so bad is that it was the ultimate unforced error that the slightest amount of foresight could see a mile away. The idea that this guy, at 34 yrs. old with a history of coming up small in big spots and with zero motivation to play in Philly, was going to be any different than what we've seen is the height of delusion. He got his bag, which was all he wanted.

It's a tossup as to whether it was better or worse than the Tobias signing, but I'd say worse simply because it is indeed the final nail in the Embiid era's coffin.


The only way this was going to work was if both he and Embiid were healthy enough to each play a minimum of 70 games this year. I can't belive we blew all that cap space on him.
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Post#29 » by 76ciology » Thu Jan 9, 2025 3:09 pm

What made the George signing so bad was Embiid deciding to choose the Paris Olympics over the 2024-2025 season. He clearly wasn’t right during the olympics.
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Post#30 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Jan 9, 2025 3:12 pm

I think if we do decide to push the reset button with this team, it'll be after this season. We need to get out of OKCs back pocket with the pick we owe them. It's tops six this summer, it's top four the following summer. You don't want to start a rebuild by owing a top five pick to a team. Not just a team, but a team that is on the verge of building a dynasty.

Right now we're a few games out of the 7th spot and we're a few games away from the sixth pick. The problem with the sixth pick is that it's a gamble on if we keep it at all. We won't catch the fifth spot as those teams are downright awful in front of us. Our only hope would be that we leapfrog those teams in the lotto should we go the tank route. In other words...It may be too late to tank. We either need to settle in at the sixth spot and continue to lose OR hope that we put together a string of wins with Maxey leading the way. We're almost to the halfway point of the season and this is quite possibly the worst position that this team could find itself in. Not good enough to contend or even compete for a playoff spot, but also not bad enough to ensure a top five pick in the draft. Not mediocre with the future looking bright either, just middling, going through the motions, and playing for a paycheck. Its the equivalent of quiet quitting.
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Post#31 » by mjkvol » Thu Jan 9, 2025 3:56 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I think if we do decide to push the reset button with this team, it'll be after this season. We need to get out of OKCs back pocket with the pick we owe them. It's tops six this summer, it's top four the following summer. You don't want to start a rebuild by owing a top five pick to a team. Not just a team, but a team that is on the verge of building a dynasty.

Right now we're a few games out of the 7th spot and we're a few games away from the sixth pick. The problem with the sixth pick is that it's a gamble on if we keep it at all. We won't catch the fifth spot as those teams are downright awful in front of us. Our only hope would be that we leapfrog those teams in the lotto should we go the tank route. In other words...It may be too late to tank. We either need to settle in at the sixth spot and continue to lose OR hope that we put together a string of wins with Maxey leading the way. We're almost to the halfway point of the season and this is quite possibly the worst position that this team could find itself in. Not good enough to contend or even compete for a playoff spot, but also not bad enough to ensure a top five pick in the draft. Not mediocre with the future looking bright either, just middling, going through the motions, and playing for a paycheck. Its the equivalent of quiet quitting.


This literally is the Iggy years with even less potential upside due to the max contracts on the books. And that's pretty much Siberia in the NBA.
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Post#32 » by Tony Franciosa » Thu Jan 9, 2025 6:23 pm

I haven't been this pessimistic on this team since the Bynum era. Feels like we are stuck in the mud and have to wait it out thanks to the new cap rules in the CBA. The Embiid extension was a massive, massive mistake.
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Post#33 » by TYO23 » Thu Jan 9, 2025 8:37 pm

Yeah this latest update did it for me. It’s time to move on. Joel can’t even play two consecutive weeks without a foot or knee flare up. It’s time to move towards the future asap.
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Post#34 » by elchengue20 » Thu Jan 9, 2025 9:41 pm

I predicted this 3 years ago, everbody called me crazy.

If we traded Ben and Embiid on time we would be looking like the next OKC right now.

Hope you enjoyed those 2nd round exits and being Boston little child.
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Post#35 » by youngcrev » Thu Jan 9, 2025 11:37 pm

elchengue20 wrote:I predicted this 3 years ago, everbody called me crazy.

If we traded Ben and Embiid on time we would be looking like the next OKC right now.

Hope you enjoyed those 2nd round exits and being Boston little child.


And just think about the package we could get for SGA right now! Jalen Williams too! With Chet in cold storage we could tank no problem and then win the award for having the best future value.
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Post#36 » by Jailblazers7 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:40 am

All the hypotheticals of trading Ben/Embiid earlier work under the assumption that we wouldn’t have f*cked up those trades and/or squandered the assets we got back.
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Post#37 » by phifans » Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:42 am

GoSixersBro wrote:What we as sports fans easily forget is money.

The Sixers have been in the top 3 in attendance since 2018.

This team has not sustained this level of popularity in the city, especially for an eight year span, since the 80's.

While even if Harris adopted an NBA GM level of thinking and worked closely with Morey, he'd literally be gambling away massive profits to trade this franchise's first MVP in 20 years who made the team relevant after being nothing for over 15 seasons.

Not saying I'm one way or the other, but just giving you all the actual explanation. Harris would never trade Embiid without a demand from the player himself.


If that's the case he should drop Embiid now asap cos he will miss half of his games the rest of his career.
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Post#38 » by Negrodamus » Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:58 am

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Alright, now we can definitely stop caring.
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Post#39 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:11 am

Gotta trade for a young bul PF on a rookie deal. Using picks and kj martin ...
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Post#40 » by the_process » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:33 am

GoSixersBro wrote:What we as sports fans easily forget is money.

The Sixers have been in the top 3 in attendance since 2018.

This team has not sustained this level of popularity in the city, especially for an eight year span, since the 80's.

While even if Harris adopted an NBA GM level of thinking and worked closely with Morey, he'd literally be gambling away massive profits to trade this franchise's first MVP in 20 years who made the team relevant after being nothing for over 15 seasons.

Not saying I'm one way or the other, but just giving you all the actual explanation. Harris would never trade Embiid without a demand from the player himself.


Therefore people need to stop
supporting this slop. And the ones who do go need to start booing Jo. That's a sure fire way to get him to start moping, and then ask for a trade.

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