2025 NBA Draft (2)

[Mik317]

sounds easy enough

;_;

[Jojothewhale]

If you're someone who puts a ton of value in that 90+ HS FT%, you should really put that in as a question to a podcast with access to data services. PHLY for example I'm sure does. You'll probably get an answer with a number.

[Negrodamus]

If you're someone who puts a ton of value in that 90+ HS FT%, you should really put that in as a question to a podcast with access to data services. PHLY for example I'm sure does. You'll probably get an answer with a number.

Well I’m certainly not allowed to take the 69% he just did for an entire college season at face value. Tis but a fluke!

[Arsenal]

If you're someone who puts a ton of value in that 90+ HS FT%, you should really put that in as a question to a podcast with access to data services. PHLY for example I'm sure does. You'll probably get an answer with a number.

Well I’m certainly not allowed to take the 69% he just did for an entire college season at face value. Tis but a fluke!

Sad to see one of the best posters on the board come down with a turrible case of ADS (Ace Derangement Syndrome)!

[76ciology]

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Eyes on the prize

[Negrodamus]

If you're someone who puts a ton of value in that 90+ HS FT%, you should really put that in as a question to a podcast with access to data services. PHLY for example I'm sure does. You'll probably get an answer with a number.

Well I’m certainly not allowed to take the 69% he just did for an entire college season at face value. Tis but a fluke!

Sad to see one of the best posters on the board come down with a turrible case of ADS (Ace Derangement Syndrome)!

Much like most of the "Derangement Syndromes" being discussed today, the one accusing the other of being inflicted with the "syndrome" resorts to ad hominems instead of actually debating the objective facts laid before them.

[Arsenal]

Well I’m certainly not allowed to take the 69% he just did for an entire college season at face value. Tis but a fluke!

Sad to see one of the best posters on the board come down with a turrible case of ADS (Ace Derangement Syndrome)!

Much like most of the "Derangement Syndromes" being discussed today, the one accusing the other of being inflicted with the "syndrome" resorts to ad hominems instead of actually debating the objective facts laid before them.

Apples to oranges comparisons of upperclassmen to freshmen, 21-year-olds to 18-year-olds, and point guards to big wings are not "objective facts" unfortunately, unless afflicted by ADS!

[Negrodamus]

Sad to see one of the best posters on the board come down with a turrible case of ADS (Ace Derangement Syndrome)!

Much like most of the "Derangement Syndromes" being discussed today, the one accusing the other of being inflicted with the "syndrome" resorts to ad hominems instead of actually debating the objective facts laid before them.

Apples to oranges comparisons of upperclassmen to freshmen, 21-year-olds to 18-year-olds, and point guards to big wings are not "objective facts" unfortunately, unless afflicted by ADS!

The statistics are still facts. Whether you want to interpret them as noteworthy is up to you. Sorry if this is confusing to you.

[Arsenal]

Much like most of the "Derangement Syndromes" being discussed today, the one accusing the other of being inflicted with the "syndrome" resorts to ad hominems instead of actually debating the objective facts laid before them.

Apples to oranges comparisons of upperclassmen to freshmen, 21-year-olds to 18-year-olds, and point guards to big wings are not "objective facts" unfortunately, unless afflicted by ADS!

The statistics are still facts. Whether you want to interpret them as noteworthy is up to you. Sorry if this is confusing to you.

"Lies, damn lies, and statistics"

Statistical comparisons devoid of all context (such as age, teammates, size, position etc.) merely serve to support a predetermined negative agenda.

[SixthStreet]

Depending on what Grimes' market is, Morey could find himself in a situation where he needs to trade down a couple spots for apron flexibility, and the return might be underwhelming.

[Negrodamus]

Apples to oranges comparisons of upperclassmen to freshmen, 21-year-olds to 18-year-olds, and point guards to big wings are not "objective facts" unfortunately, unless afflicted by ADS!

The statistics are still facts. Whether you want to interpret them as noteworthy is up to you. Sorry if this is confusing to you.

"Lies, damn lies, and statistics"

Statistical comparisons devoid of all context (such as age, teammates, size, position etc.) merely serve to support a predetermined negative agenda.

What do you want to talk about? Decent weather today given it's so close to summer.

[76ciology]

Apples to oranges comparisons of upperclassmen to freshmen, 21-year-olds to 18-year-olds, and point guards to big wings are not "objective facts" unfortunately, unless afflicted by ADS!

The statistics are still facts. Whether you want to interpret them as noteworthy is up to you. Sorry if this is confusing to you.

"Lies, damn lies, and statistics"

Statistical comparisons devoid of all context (such as age, teammates, size, position etc.) merely serve to support a predetermined negative agenda.

But those stats are also in line with eyetest.

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[76ciology]

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The only reason why Ace Bailey is in the top 3 consideration is because of his size. If he’s 6’5” with 6’8” wingspan, he’d be a mid first pick at best.

[Arsenal]

The statistics are still facts. Whether you want to interpret them as noteworthy is up to you. Sorry if this is confusing to you.

"Lies, damn lies, and statistics"

Statistical comparisons devoid of all context (such as age, teammates, size, position etc.) merely serve to support a predetermined negative agenda.

What do you want to talk about? Decent weather today given it's so close to summer.

How about that Sorber is a better prospect than Queen, especially because he is one year younger (not that you care lol), has much better measurements, superior athleticism, and put up better stats with a worse supporting cast?

Sorber is mocked to go mid to late teens, which is where Queen should be.

[ivysixer2000]

I do have to add, the comparisons made for Ace are weird to me. He obviously plays D with the steals and blocks, along with the rebounding. LaVine he is not.

I do think its hilarious that we question the size of Ace, while noone questions Flagg who is the same exact size. Seems like a double standard that is just plain nuts, as they want Flagg at PF but he will be a SF cause of AD. I would question Flagg if I'm going to question Ace in the size area as its only fair. I guess life isn't fair, I know from experience, but this situation really does bother me as Flagg is seen as some golden child while others are seen as just JAGs.

As I have stated many times, I do not see the Spurs taking Harper. They already have 2 bad shooters in their backcourt (Fox, Castle), why do they need a 3rd one? If anything, they need Tre. It would be a crime to have that many bad shooters around Wemby unless Pop thinks its the 2000s. If they do take Harper, I think it will be a horrible move for that franchise. I think they will pick Ace, as that franchise has a history of developing wings.

I will bet that if we end up with Harper, Grimes or McCain would be gone. I hate to see either of them leave, so that would be a sad situation for me, but if it gives us an actual PF, so be it.

[Arsenal]

I do have to add, the comparisons made for Ace are weird to me. He obviously plays D with the steals and blocks, along with the rebounding. LaVine he is not.

I do think its hilarious that we question the size of Ace, while noone questions Flagg who is the same exact size. Seems like a double standard that is just plain nuts, as they want Flagg at PF but he will be a SF cause of AD. I would question Flagg if I'm going to question Ace in the size area as its only fair. I guess life isn't fair, I know from experience, but this situation really does bother me as Flagg is seen as some golden child while others are seen as just JAGs.

As I have stated many times, I do not see the Spurs taking Harper. They already have 2 bad shooters in their backcourt (Fox, Castle), why do they need a 3rd one? If anything, they need Tre. It would be a crime to have that many bad shooters around Wemby unless Pop thinks its the 2000s. If they do take Harper, I think it will be a horrible move for that franchise. I think they will pick Ace, as that franchise has a history of developing wings.

I will bet that if we end up with Harper, Grimes or McCain would be gone. I hate to see either of them leave, so that would be a sad situation for me, but if it gives us an actual PF, so be it.

A LOT of the Ace slander consists of people who look at one advanced stat like BPM, see that it's relatively low, and go on a negative jihad from there.

[76ciology]

I do have to add, the comparisons made for Ace are weird to me. He obviously plays D with the steals and blocks, along with the rebounding. LaVine he is not.

I do think its hilarious that we question the size of Ace, while noone questions Flagg who is the same exact size. Seems like a double standard that is just plain nuts, as they want Flagg at PF but he will be a SF cause of AD. I would question Flagg if I'm going to question Ace in the size area as its only fair. I guess life isn't fair, I know from experience, but this situation really does bother me as Flagg is seen as some golden child while others are seen as just JAGs.

As I have stated many times, I do not see the Spurs taking Harper. They already have 2 bad shooters in their backcourt (Fox, Castle), why do they need a 3rd one? If anything, they need Tre. It would be a crime to have that many bad shooters around Wemby unless Pop thinks its the 2000s. If they do take Harper, I think it will be a horrible move for that franchise. I think they will pick Ace, as that franchise has a history of developing wings.

I will bet that if we end up with Harper, Grimes or McCain would be gone. I hate to see either of them leave, so that would be a sad situation for me, but if it gives us an actual PF, so be it.

A LOT of the Ace slander consists of people who look at one advanced stat like BPM, see that it's relatively low, and go on a negative jihad from there.

To be fair, BPM is a useful tool when combined with the eye test and player archetype. It helps distinguish between empty-calorie stats and real impact, making it a solid way to gauge a player’s true value.

[SixthStreet]

What if Maluach is Gobert + Brook Lopez's floor spacing in one body?

If there is anyone in this draft who has a path to be better than Flagg in the NBA, it's him.

[Stanford]

A LOT of the Ace slander consists of people who look at one advanced stat like BPM, see that it's relatively low, and go on a negative jihad from there.

They're overthinking it

[Snotbubbles]

Like Black Mage posted in the other draft topic,in my opinion doesnt make sense to not draft Bailey because we want to "maximize this contention window" with Embiid´s timeline. It´s almost malpratice to still think about Embiid, specially jeopardizing our future with the 3rd pick. That ship already sailed, Embiid will never be 100% again. And even if he were, his game is not made to the playoffs( like Harden, he wont get a lot of fouls in the playoffs, so his scoring drops a lot), we already have a lot of evidence to back this up. I love the big fella, but i dont think we should plan our future considering Joel anymore.

Embiid FTA regular season: 10.0 per game

Embiid FTA playoffs: 9.7 per game

In the playoffs, he plays more minutes but takes less shots and at a lower clip than the regular season. That's why his scoring goes from 27.7 per game in the regular season to 24.9 per game in the playoffs.

What evidence are you referring to?