Dalembert On The Move?

[dbodner]

He could be, but I don't see us really looking for that. Trade exceptions are usually desirable for teams looking to get under the luxury tax. I guess we could trade him for a trade exception just so we have that exception to use next year around the deadline.

[tk76]

If we trade Gordan it likley would be part of a major deal along with either Miller or Sam that lands us the PF we all want. It would be to do our Summer '08 move earlier, which would be great.

We acquired CWebb around this time, and maybe we will again land a big name PF before the deadline. Who that would be I have no idea- and I won'r throw out fantasy names (but I could.)

[dbodner]

I think the most likely is Gasol. He's still only 27, and he'd be a GREAT fit IMO.

[steveb21]

I'm not sold on trading Delambert. Center is the hardest position to fill and even serviceable ones are hard to find. Unless you know that you can draft a Jordan, Hibbert or Thabeet I would hold off on trading Sam.

[The Sixer Fixer]

If we trade Gordan it likley would be part of a major deal along with either Miller or Sam that lands us the PF we all want. It would be to do our Summer '08 move earlier, which would be great.

We acquired CWebb around this time, and maybe we will again land a big name PF before the deadline. Who that would be I have no idea- and I won'r throw out fantasy names (but I could.)

I thought Gordan can only be traded by himself. Isn't there a rule on him not being able to be combined with other players until the 90 days has passed since the original trade (which will be after the deadline)?

[dbodner]

60 days. Of course that's irrelevant, since it's after the deadline. So he can only be traded by himself.

[tk76]

I stand corrected.

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BSPN.

[ducehere22]

did someone say we could get gasol? that would be great...

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Amare would fit in well here but has he recovered from his injury and if not, does it look like he ever will? Last thing we need here is the 2008 version of CWebb.

STChaser

Have you seen Amare's numbers over the last 2 years?

[Skeletor]

I'm not sold on trading Delambert. Center is the hardest position to fill and even serviceable ones are hard to find. Unless you know that you can draft a Jordan, Hibbert or Thabeet I would hold off on trading Sam.

And even those guys are not guaranteed to give us anything close to what Sam is already giving us

[SendEm]

Is a good trade even possible for Sammy where both teams win? I can't think of an easy trade scenario involving Sammy where the Sixers are better long term and the other team is better long term. A great shot blocking, good rebounding, athletic center with a jumpshot t is worth more than an Allstar perimeter player. Right now Sammy is worth more than Vince Carter. There are 30+ players in the league that can offer something close to what Vince can, while there are only like 5+ players that can offer what Sammy does. Sammy is really an untouchable unless somehow we can ATLEAST get a good big man in return in addition to one of the very good NBA perimeter players.

[noone]

A great shot blocking, good rebounding, athletic center with a jumpshot t is worth more than an Allstar perimeter player. Right now Sammy is worth more than Vince Carter.

Sammy is not worth more than a player that puts up 20/5/5. You can make the argument against Carter (and I agree) for reasons other than the 20/5/5 he puts up, but I think it's a pretty big reach to say Sammy is worth more than an allstar perimeter player. Any other player putting up 20/5/5 and you can't make the argument.

I've had my fair share of issues with Sammy and do agree that he has improved, but it seems people have really started overrating him. Sammy is still very expendable imo. I would look for any opportunity to sell high with him.

[Dedicated_76ers_fan]

Sendem is...CORRECT. We cannot afford to ship Daly for a wingman, unless we get a quality big in return. Or we know we're gonna draft or sign a big. However, let's suppose the Nets do want to do Daly for Carter. In the off-season. The Clippers want to make the money saving decision by trading Elton Brand. Ed Stefanski completes a sign and trade for Iggy



Assuming we get rid of Reggie Evans in the deal. We still haven't signed our major free agent. So, then let's assume that if we max out Okafor, the Bobcats won't match. So you got

C-Okafor
PF-Brand
SF-Young
SG-Carter
PG-Miller

Playoff time Philly ^^

[SendEm]

A great shot blocking, good rebounding, athletic center with a jumpshot t is worth more than an Allstar perimeter player. Right now Sammy is worth more than Vince Carter.

Sammy is not worth more than a player that puts up 20/5/5. You can make the argument against Carter (and I agree) for reasons other than the 20/5/5 he puts up, but I think it's a pretty big reach to say Sammy is worth more than an allstar perimeter player. Any other player putting up 20/5/5 and you can't make the argument.

I've had my fair share of issues with Sammy and do agree that he has improved, but it seems people have really started overrating him. Sammy is still very expendable imo. I would look for any opportunity to sell high with him.

The value of big men is weighted. There just aren't many 7 footers in the world who can play quality basketball. Not looking at Dalembert's or Carter's past and just judging them off of their current and projected future production it then becomes a trade to not even take into consideration. New Jersey would have to trade Shawn Williams and RJ for Dalembert and possibly more. And that trade still doesn't feel right because who will then guard the Tim Duncan's and Yao Ming's of the world? It takes forever for big men to develop. It could be another 6-7 years before the Sixers get another 7 footer the quality of Dalembert. Wing players are all over the place. You can get a wing player off of the street, give him some playing time and potentially see him turn into a 18ppg scorer overnight.

[bebopdeluxe]

2's and 3's are a dime-a-dozen.

Athletic, shot-blocking, double-digit rebounding 7-footers are rare.

You do NOT trade big for small (unless his initials are MJ).

Sammy for Amare? Sammy for Okafor?

I would consider those.

Sammy for Vince Carter?

[STChaser]

Have you seen Amare's numbers over the last 2 years?

Dedicated, I'm not saying you're wrong because I haven't looked at his stats since the injury. However, assuming Amare's numbers are what you say, that begs the question, why then does Phoenix want to get rid of him?


STChaser

[eyeatoma]

Have you seen Amare's numbers over the last 2 years?

Dedicated, I'm not saying you're wrong because I haven't looked at his stats since the injury. However, assuming Amare's numbers are what you say, that begs the question, why then does Phoenix want to get rid of him?


STChaser

The clashes he has with Marion, and the thought that the suns play at their frenetic best when Stoudemire is out. It might work during the post season, but come playoff time, Amare is invaluable. We've seen that for two consecutive playoff series' versus the Spurs.

I think it would be a dumb move on Phoenix's end if they were to move Amare. Every elite western conference team has a dominant big man. Marion is not dominant, even though he is a PF. He's not going to do the things that Amare does for the Suns.

[SendEm]

Amare has been getting dunked on this season more than anyone in the league. He has been looking like Shawn Bradley in his prime on defense. The only good thing about that is that he isn't taking the "super star" cop out where they judge whether to defend a play according to the probability of them being posterized. He has been attempting to defend any and everything coming through the paint but he has constantly been caught in the highlight reels getting tea bagged. He doesn't have nearly the vertical leap he had before the injury but his speed and quickness are close.

[SouthJersey]

Are there any attitude concern with Amare?