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Post#21 » by The Guilty Party » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:41 am

WOW. You think Memphis would touch that??

There are some rumors flying around that Miami may try to package Jason Williams and/or Ricky Davis' expiring deals in an attempt to get Mike Miller.

I'm really shocked at how quiet things are in Chicago. Paxson is showing himself to be a bad GM.
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Post#22 » by Sandalf42 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:51 am

WOW. You think Memphis would touch that??


Of course not, but I forgot to throw in the X variable.

X = the idiocy of the Memphis GM.......squared
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Post#23 » by plead.5th » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:14 am

Not if they keep shedding salary and get more space than us to deal this summer. They have some young talent, a bad year, high pick and some money is better than making the playoffs at 8, having the 15th pick, and having just enough money that most teams will match when we throw it at good players. We need to dump salary and lose games, it's that simple. Memphis may look dumb but come out as the winner here.
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Post#24 » by ponder719 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:41 am

How about Carney, Ollie, and the Utah pick for Lowry and Miller? Not quite as dumb for them, since they're adding an expiring instead of Willie G's contract, yet far enough into the realm of stupid to fit Chris Wallace's profile.

(And yes, I know this is ridiculous on its face. But no worse than what he's already taken for Gasol.)
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Post#25 » by THFM » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:50 am

dilbert719 wrote:How about Carney, Ollie, and the Utah pick for Lowry and Miller? Not quite as dumb for them, since they're adding an expiring instead of Willie G's contract, yet far enough into the realm of stupid to fit Chris Wallace's profile.

(And yes, I know this is ridiculous on its face. But no worse than what he's already taken for Gasol.)


NO WAY Miller is a rich man's Korver, and Ollie is an expiring we NEED if we plan on getting a PF this summer
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Post#26 » by The Guilty Party » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:01 pm

As I said when I started this thread... I expect Denver to be the next Western Conference team to make a stupid move and now rumors are flying that they are interested in Zach Randolph.

Even though it's Isiah, I can't see the Knicks taking back Kenyon Martin or Nene which would mean the Nuggets would have THREE max contract PFs on their roster.
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Post#27 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:11 pm

Zach Randolph can fit on a team that has Marcus Camby. Hell, since Iverson's taken less shots the Nuggs have been the semi-defensive team that they need to win games. The west is too damn deep.
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Post#28 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:14 pm

Chris Wallace overnight has proven himself to be worse then Isiah Thomas.
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Post#29 » by The Guilty Party » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:19 pm

It'll be interesting to see what Wallace gets in return for Mike Miller and Kyle Lowery. While the Gasol deal looks terrible, I wonder if he was forced into making that trade because of ownership desires to cut salary and sell the team.
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Post#30 » by tk76 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 4:45 pm

The Nets trade for Miller only gives back expirings.
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Post#31 » by The Guilty Party » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:22 pm

tk76 wrote:The Nets trade for Miller only gives back expirings.


Did this trade happen? You wrote this as though it was factual and not based on a rumor.
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Post#32 » by tk76 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:51 pm

sorry, only a rumor- was in the wiretap yesterday.
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Post#33 » by The Guilty Party » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:37 am

Even though we had the Bibby to ATL deal go down... I'm a little shocked that we're well into Saturday Night of the All-Star break and the rumor mill is as quiet as it is. The Bibby and Gasol deals more or less came out of nowhere, the Shaq deal was leaked a day before it happened, and while the Kidd deal was suggested for a while, it was mostly thought of to be dead before it sprung up (only to be killed by George).

Are these teams doing a better job of keeping their proposals in house???
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Post#34 » by THFM » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:48 am

The Guilty Party wrote:Even though we had the Bibby to ATL deal go down... I'm a little shocked that we're well into Saturday Night of the All-Star break and the rumor mill is as quiet as it is. The Bibby and Gasol deals more or less came out of nowhere, the Shaq deal was leaked a day before it happened, and while the Kidd deal was suggested for a while, it was mostly thought of to be dead before it sprung up (only to be killed by George).

Are these teams doing a better job of keeping their proposals in house???


I agree a lot of trades have been kept secretly and just dropped on us. Usually trades are leaked (Shaq, Kidd,) and I check RealGM every couple hours just to make sure another blockbuster happend. When I came home today I saw Bibby traded, I was like WOW where is all this coming from. It's like some 15 year old is playing NBA 2K8 and posting it on RealGM Front Page.
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Post#35 » by sports savant » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:00 am

The Guilty Party wrote:It'll be interesting to see what Wallace gets in return for Mike Miller and Kyle Lowery. While the Gasol deal looks terrible, I wonder if he was forced into making that trade because of ownership desires to cut salary and sell the team.


that is exactly the reason they made the trade-- think Johan Santana and Minnesota.. Memphis looking to sell the team, wants to lower payroll.

They pick up some future draft picks and a possible starter for them in the process.

as you also said, now they can trade Mike Miller, lose another $7mill/year and maybe get more young (read: CHEAP) pieces.

by trading Miller and Gasol, they save like $80MILLION in salaries over the next 3yrs.....
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Post#36 » by The Guilty Party » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:02 am

I kind of wish ESPN was doing the All-Star Saturday Night stuff. Even though they aren't the best, at least we'd hear from Bucher, Broussard, Stein and company about the rumors.
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Post#37 » by The Guilty Party » Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:08 am

Also... so is Ron Artest the next big name to get moved or do you think it'll be someone else (J. O'Neal, Carter, Kidd, etc).
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Post#38 » by tk76 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:18 am

Sounds like NJ is the most motivated player- but are their that many teams with expiring left interested in making a trde. It seems like clearing cap is all that teams care about any more and you rarely see trades where both teams expect to get back good talent.
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Post#39 » by sec-106 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:32 pm

If the Kidd to DAL deal fall thru, would you take Harris+Diop+expirings for Miller+Booth?

Would DAL?
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Post#40 » by freshie2 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:10 pm

Philadelphia would, I don't think Dallas would. Throw in a first or two, and they may.

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