Sixers' Iguodala has faith he can play for larger fortune

[Skates]

Some teams other than Memphis and Philly could have cap room if their big name players opt out and don't re-sign with their current teams like Brand, Arenas, Marion, Baron Davis. The thing is while more teams might then have cap room, the market also becomes flooded with more talent. And for the guy who is worried that Memphis will sign Iguodala to an above market contrcat, let them BK was constantly bidding against himself for players adn giving ridiculous contracts.

If the moron running Memphis wants to blow all of their cap room on Iggy when the owner is trying to sell the team and they already have Mike Miller, Rudy Gay and Hakim Warrick to play the wings, there is no reason to be an idiot yourself. Another top wing player will be available, probably Rudy Gay in a year or two when Memphis can't afford him because of Iggy's salary. Truthfully, some guy like Gordon, who vastly over-rates himself, will go to Memphis and eat up part of their cap room, while they sit on the rest.

[freshie2]

Memphis is the only really viable option to give him a big deal, but what you read is they may not use the space this season.

It is interesting...what deal do you offer, and what deal do you match?? There is a lower number you offer up front, then you have to consider what offer you match to keep him. I don't think he's played himself into a bigger deal than was rumored last season, but I don't think he's played himself out of that either...$57/5 is probably about right...he's a better value for the money that Wallace got.

[Sixerscan]

I have one question, can expiring contracts be trade before FA starts or do they become FA's the minute the season ends?

Because if expiring contracts can be traded on draft day then I could definitely see some teams shed salary and have as much if not more money than us.

After you are eliminated from the playoffs you can trade nonexpiring contracts. Expiring contracts or contracts with options on them can't be traded.

Short answer no.

[barkley34]

Mr MODERATO with all due respect you need to study what teams are capable of offering him this type of payday.Acording to the media there will be a couple of free agents that will be opting out of contracts which will free up money for Franchises(...arenas... Brand Maggetti... Artest ...Marion ...Iverson ) out of these players i believe one or two will actually bolt from their squad. Im sure gordon wont be in chicogos future which will give them money,.... Memphis will be the team to force our hand....Dalla is a projected Olympian.... 13.5 Believe that

Even if some of those guys do opt out they will be the 1st choice of most teams, not Iggy. Marion,Arenas and Brand would all get higher offers than Iggy.

[underpressure]

There is absolutely no way that Marion gets a higher offer. That dude cannot even create his own shot ... and he is already much older.

Does anybody know whether Brand is going to opt out of his contract? I doubt it because no team can offer him significant more money...

[SendEm]

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Even if some of those guys do opt out they will be the 1st choice of most teams, not Iggy. Marion,Arenas and Brand would all get higher offers than Iggy.

[Fire BK]

Does anybody know whether Brand is going to opt out of his contract? I doubt it because no team can offer him significant more money...

RotoWorld.com:

"(Elton) Brand can opt out and become an unrestricted free agent this summer, but word on the street is that he's not going to opt out and will play out the final year of his contract in L.A. next season. That would suggest he has nothing to prove by returning this season, unless the stories about him staying with the Clippers are inaccurate."

I don't see Memphis offering Iggy 13.5. I agree with Dond that Iggy won't get offered as much as originally he turned down... This could definitely create some awkwardness and even malcontent down the road.... Shaping up to be a very interesting summer.

[dbodner]

Mr MODERATO with all due respect you need to study what teams are capable of offering him this type of payday

I have "studied". In fact, I've read the entire CBA cover to cover. But thank you.

You've stated some teams that COULD have cap space. Not teams that WILL have cap space. And what would you put the odds of the Hawks renouncing Josh Smith and Josh Childress to get enough room to max out Iguodala? Not much. Even if Charlotte renounces Okafor, they won't have more than the Sixers to offer.

Acording to the media there will be a couple of free agents that will be opting out of contracts which will free up money for Franchises(...arenas... Brand Maggetti... Artest ...Marion ...Iverson )

If Brand opts out, Brand becomes the clippers #1 priority to resign. They'll only go after Iguodala AFTER Brand leaves. And if Brand leaves, we're the most likely destination (again, limited # of teams with cap space).

The Kings will be over the cap next year even if Artest opts out, so that's not a concern. They've stacked up their expiring contracts for NEXT year.

Likewise, the Nuggets will be over the cap even without Iverson's contract. Same thing with Jermaine O'Neal and the Pacers.

More importantly, if all of these players opt out, Iguodala is not the most coveted free agent on the market (not that I believe he is anyway).

Memphis will be the team to force our hand

So have you been ignoring the reports that they won't be using their cap space this year, or do you have a better source?

Dalla is a projected Olympian.... 13.5 Believe that

1) Nobody has projected "Dala" as an olympian. Nice job stating that as fact, though.
2) Iguodala's max starting salary is $13,041,250 next year. Maybe it's you need to "study".

[corwin]

Unfourtunatley Iggys value around the leauge is sky high.Will go even higher if he helps lead the sixers to the playoffs.Management will let the market set its self. Ive heard Whispers that he will be the top target in the summer of 08.I think memphis will attempt to sighn him for a 5 year contract starting at 13.5 million dollars a year. WHAT YOU GONA DO NOW EDDY.

That's laughable for three reasons. First, Memphis is the only team that could reach for him right now & they are trying to shed salary so that they can sell the team. Second, he plays the same position as Rudy Gay. Third why go after a player that can be easily matched when there are other more obtainable players out there. Sorry I didn't read the rest of this thread before I posted since it's all been said elsewhere but it still holds.

[Mik317]

Obvioiusly Memphis is trying to import Atlanta's vaunted all Swingman Offense........Obviously it worked for them.....right?


They way I see it IF Iggy continues to play like he'd been playing as of late (driving and finishing and hitting his jumper) He diserves around the ammount Kevin Martin and Gerald Wallace is making that's not too much for him and maybe even a little bit more.

Despite what you guys say, Iggy is respected by other players. and I'll take players opinions over guys who don't play. Iggy can get better. He's trains with Kobe ( arguabally the best paleyr in the league) if any of Kobe's Kobiness rubs off on Iggy ( minus the bad parts) I think he can becime our "franchise player". I don't really know why people say he can't, when has shown glimpses of that.

[Johnny Broad-Street]

If he continues his current mode of play, I think that'd be the Iggy we've all been looking for. I'm fine with paying him whatever he's worth when this is all said and done. If he earns more money by REALLY stepping it up, that's a good thing

[SendEm]

Too many people WISH that Iggy will get overpaid. I'm a Sixers enthusiast and not a FAN of players. I want the Sixers to win in any and all deals involving the players. Paying Iggy $11.5+ is a MAJOR loss for the Sixers considering that Kevin Martin is making $11.0 and he his a more superior player than Iggy. Caron Butler and Ginobili both are making under $10.0. Stephanski would have done a great job if he can get Iggy to sign for less than Billy King attempted to overpay in the initial offer. If Ed can't get Iggy for less than $11.5, sign and trade options need to be explored.

Iggy isn't even averaging 20 5 and 5. Those numbers entering the season where seen as the absolute lowest he would get per night. In reality Iggy is padding his stats just to hover close to those numbers. You can believe he knows what he needs to get every night, he does have an agent...

[underpressure]

Martin is superior? Huh, did I miss something?

[Mik317]

Too many people WISH that Iggy will get overpaid. I'm a Sixers enthusiast and not a FAN of players. I want the Sixers to win in any and all deals involving the players. Paying Iggy $11.5+ is a MAJOR loss for the Sixers considering that Kevin Martin is making $11.0 and he his a more superior player than Iggy. Caron Butler and Ginobili both are making under $10.0. Stephanski would have done a great job if he can get Iggy to sign for less than Billy King attempted to overpay in the initial offer. If Ed can't get Iggy for less than $11.5, sign and trade options need to be explored.

Iggy isn't even averaging 20 5 and 5. Those numbers entering the season where seen as the absolute lowest he would get per night. In reality Iggy is padding his stats just to hover close to those numbers. You can believe he knows what he needs to get every night, he does have an agent...

some sixer's fan your are.......you don't even post here unless it's bashing someone.

get lost.

[Sixers24]

Iggy isn't even averaging 20 5 and 5. Those numbers entering the season where seen as the absolute lowest he would get per night. In reality Iggy is padding his stats just to hover close to those numbers. You can believe he knows what he needs to get every night, he does have an agent...

They were? By who?

And he's padding his stats? Are you kidding me?

[corwin]

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Iggy isn't even averaging 20 5 and 5. Those numbers entering the season where seen as the absolute lowest he would get per night. In reality Iggy is padding his stats just to hover close to those numbers. You can believe he knows what he needs to get every night, he does have an agent...

Even if he were averaging those numbers, all you have to do is to watch the games to see that he is not a good shooter. He also can't usually drive by his man. He's good but as has been discussed many times, he isn't looking like a franchise guy & until he does, he shouldn't get more than guys like Martin, Wallace, & Prince.. It will only tie the team's hands in the future. Just think about all the grief that we've had to read about Sam's contract & his averaged 10.5 million. Iguodala's will average about the same even if he takes the 5/57 that was offered.

[ITK9]

Iggy isn't even averaging 20 5 and 5.

the truth is 19.7 is much lower than 20

[SendEm]

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Even if he were averaging those numbers, all you have to do is to watch the games to see that he is not a good shooter. He also can't usually drive by his man. He's good but as has been discussed many times, he isn't looking like a franchise guy & until he does, he shouldn't get more than guys like Martin, Wallace, & Prince.. It will only tie the team's hands in the future. Just think about all the grief that we've had to read about Sam's contract & his averaged 10.5 million. Iguodala's will average about the same even if he takes the 5/57 that was offered.

You are preaching to the choir.

[SendEm]

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the truth is 19.7 is much lower than 20

But wasn't he SUPPOSE to average 20+ppg?

I do recall reading/hearing expectations of him improving his game over last summer to averaging potentially 25ppg. But we all can CLEARLY see that was completely unrealistic indeed.

Earlier this season he was "among the hand full of players to average 20 5 and 5." Now he's among the handful of players to average 19 5 and 4...LOL they will just keep lowering that mark to somehow include Iggy in that "group" won't they? Next it will be 18 5 and 5 or 17 6 and 5...please...

[Sixers24]

SendEm, reference this "supposed" to average 20ppg thing, or that 20/5/5 was a minimum statline to which his performance would be judged.