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Post#21 » by tk76 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 3:13 pm

Like someone else said, I'm interested to see what Love's wingspan and standing reach are. If they are reasonable he probably can rebound and get shots off with good positioning (like a much better version of Todd Mac or Mark Jackson.)

His passisng skills for a big are out of this world. Watching some of his outlets and high post passes on youtube is an eye opener.

I actually think Love's footspeed won't keeep him from being a good NBA player, I merely question whether he will fit in the Sixer's plans given all of the trapping and switching the team does on defense.
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Post#22 » by STChaser » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:01 pm

Two words: Donte Green. Green will be the Sixers pick this year. 6'10 SF/PF with his quickness and offensive mindset would be a perfect compliment to Iguodala, Thaddeus, and Sam - and has 3 point range to account for Miller's inability to hit the 3. Stefanski will be looking for a 2'' taller version of Thaddeus Young in this year's draft to compliment our athleticism. Green, from all accounts, fits this profile.

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Post#23 » by SendEm » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:11 pm

Donte Green is a skilled player. He does play sorta like R. Lewis. Donte's college scoring has been inflated due to the short 3 point line, he mostly takes 3 point shots from all over the court. He is a question mark because he's 6'10 but doesn't play that height. He might end up being another Brian Cook. I have seen him play inside effectively a few times. He isn't as athletic as Hakim Warrick and he doesn't have instances where he plays 6'10 like Charlie V. Right now he's a perimeter forward with cockiness and a quick release.
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Post#24 » by STChaser » Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:14 pm

What is the consensus on Batum? Two draft boards have us taking him but he's another 6'8 SF and sounds an awful lot like Thaddeus. I don't doubt that Batum is an exceptional athlete but where would that leave Thaddeus?

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Post#25 » by phiphan » Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:01 pm

All I've seen of Batum are his youtube highlights (so take my opinion FWIW), but not even his highlights impressed me. I'd probably stay away unless we trade Carney and/or Willie for a PF/C prospect.
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Post#26 » by SendEm » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:04 pm

The Sixers need low post scoring/defense/rebounding and perimeter scoring from the big guard position. That means a PF or SG is needed. We do not need a backup center, PG or Small forward. We have a PG, backup PG, two SF's, and a center. If the guy we draft can't guard and rebound against PF's EVERY NIGHT or if we get a guy that can't create his own shot from the big guard position...WE FAIL! PF or SG, PF or SG, PF or SG that is what it needs to be. YEAH!
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Post#27 » by freshie2 » Mon Mar 31, 2008 11:53 pm

Drafting in the 20's range, you still take a big man if the potential is there...the Lopez twins are in the draft.

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Post#28 » by The Sixer Fixer » Tue Apr 1, 2008 12:04 am

freshie2 wrote:Drafting in the 20's range, you still take a big man if the potential is there...the Lopez twins are in the draft.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... rning_pro/


Did they hire an agent yet? If not, they can still return to college. Assuming they did hire an agent, I think it's a smart decision by Brook (he's ready). I think it's a horrible decision for Robin though. He's needs to develop much more as a player before he's NBA worthy. Would have had a great opportunity for increased paying time/offensive responsibility not that Brook won't be at Stanford next year. I would not be surprised if Robin wasn't even a 1st rd pick depending on who else declares for the draft.
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Post#29 » by dbodner » Tue Apr 1, 2008 12:54 am

freshie2 wrote:Drafting in the 20's range, you still take a big man if the potential is there...the Lopez twins are in the draft.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... rning_pro/



I have more of a chance of being drafted by the sixers at 17-20 than Brook Lopez does.
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Post#30 » by tk76 » Tue Apr 1, 2008 2:34 am

SendEm wrote:We do not need a backup center,


It may not be our #1 need, but we absolutely need a back-up center- which will be evident if we play the Magic. We need another defensive presence for when Sam gets in foul trouble. You can't always go small ball.

Booth and Smith are not legit widebodies that you can throw out their and clog up the lane, rebound and hack Howard.

If we can address our PF and shooting needs with FA/trades, I would be all for drafting a project center (Thabeet or some other beast) who might develop into a decent player in a few years, and for now can give us a legit defensive presence backing up Sam. A cheap and higher ceiling option than overpaying the 5M+ it will take to sign a guy like Diop. Everyone will be in the market for an athlete with legit size at center- and will overpay for a guy like that.
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Post#31 » by 76erinSJ » Tue Apr 1, 2008 8:30 am

Does anyone else think Love will be like Brad Miller? Thats who I see him as in the NBA.
Andre Miller is a bad 3pt shooter.
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Post#32 » by freshie2 » Tue Apr 1, 2008 10:05 am

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I have more of a chance of being drafted by the sixers at 17-20 than Brook Lopez does.


Not saying one of the Lopez twins would be the pick...just that they are coming out. Brook Lopez probably is a top 5 pick.
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Post#33 » by corwin » Tue Apr 1, 2008 11:30 am

SendEm wrote:The Sixers need low post scoring/defense/rebounding and perimeter scoring from the big guard position. That means a PF or SG is needed. We do not need a backup center, PG or Small forward. We have a PG, backup PG, two SF's, and a center. If the guy we draft can't guard and rebound against PF's EVERY NIGHT or if we get a guy that can't create his own shot from the big guard position...WE FAIL! PF or SG, PF or SG, PF or SG that is what it needs to be. YEAH!

What about a back-up or developmental center. Ideally such a player could swing to PF as well. Maybe one of the Lopez's would work. I'm also a huge fan of Thabeet if he's still there.
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Post#34 » by SendEm » Tue Apr 1, 2008 12:06 pm

A backup center is a luxury in today's NBA, you don't even need a traditional center to win a CHIP any longer so why would a building team like the Sixers want a low draft pick backup center when they have no quality starting SG or PF?

For many reasons drafting a Center will be a complete waste. Sam is making in the $13 million range and he is 26-27 years of age. Look at all of the starting TRUE centers in the NBA then compare them to the number of centers that get drafted every year, most likely anyone that we draft at the center position will ALWAYS be a backup AT BEST in the NBA. We have two positions available in the starting lineup that are BEGGING for MAJOR improvements, and those are the SG & PF positions. No center in the draft will be as good as Dalembert anytime soon, BUT there are several people that if given playing time and coaching can contribute as much as Willie Green and Evans, or even contribute more.

The one position that I know/feel will not be drafted by the Sixers is the SF position. A true PG prospect or C prospect could be drafted if Stefanski is looking to cover all bases in the event of a future Dalembert/Miller trade or as insurance if the Sixers let Miller walk after next season.

The easiest position that we could add next season to make us better is a starting SG. Getting a starting PF will be very close to impossible.
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Post#35 » by phiphan » Tue Apr 1, 2008 1:54 pm

76erinSJ wrote:Does anyone else think Love will be like Brad Miller? Thats who I see him as in the NBA.


They play two different positions and, outside of their passing skills, have much different games.
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Post#36 » by is1531 » Tue Apr 1, 2008 2:00 pm

SendEm wrote:A backup center is a luxury in today's NBA, you don't even need a traditional center to win a CHIP any longer so why would a building team like the Sixers want a low draft pick backup center when they have no quality starting SG or PF?

For many reasons drafting a Center will be a complete waste. Sam is making in the $13 million range and he is 26-27 years of age. Look at all of the starting TRUE centers in the NBA then compare them to the number of centers that get drafted every year, most likely anyone that we draft at the center position will ALWAYS be a backup AT BEST in the NBA. We have two positions available in the starting lineup that are BEGGING for MAJOR improvements, and those are the SG & PF positions. No center in the draft will be as good as Dalembert anytime soon, BUT there are several people that if given playing time and coaching can contribute as much as Willie Green and Evans, or even contribute more.

The one position that I know/feel will not be drafted by the Sixers is the SF position. A true PG prospect or C prospect could be drafted if Stefanski is looking to cover all bases in the event of a future Dalembert/Miller trade or as insurance if the Sixers let Miller walk after next season.

The easiest position that we could add next season to make us better is a starting SG. Getting a starting PF will be very close to impossible.



I think the 76ers can get their power foward in this years draft with Jason Thompson, provided he is still there. However, he is not a good foul shooter. Thompson can score inside or outside.

Stefanski has to do a lot more than click on round 1. I want to see 2 additional players on this team next year. A 2 guard that can flat out shoot and a bench player that is not undersized for some instant offense.This would have been the perfect year to have extra picks in round 1 or round 2.

Calvin Booth has a player option for next year thanks to Billy King, but I want Booth off this team next year. We need the roster spot for somebody else. It could go to Herbert Hill, if Hill can ever recover from his injuries.
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Post#37 » by SendEm » Tue Apr 1, 2008 3:11 pm

Any Power Forward that we draft outside of the lottery will not have a realistic chance at being good enough to come into the NBA and outplay Evans and Thad for a hands down starting position his rookie season. We have a better shot at having Jason Smith improve to be that player over the summer than us being able to draft him. This playoff run and last seasons win explosion have cost us that PF. But atleast the Sixers have a great working environment that lends itself to hard work and player development unlike many of the other non contenders.
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Post#38 » by tk76 » Tue Apr 1, 2008 4:55 pm

Wow, I agree with that post 100%.

Hopefully we can make a move through FA/trade by next years deadline to acquire the PF we need.
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Post#39 » by Cookin Baskets » Tue Apr 1, 2008 9:10 pm

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Post#40 » by freshie2 » Tue Apr 1, 2008 11:19 pm

SendEm wrote:...why would a building team like the Sixers want a low draft pick backup center when they have no quality starting SG or PF?


b/c nobody at this pick is more productive than the projected SG/SF's for next season (barring trades and FA departures). You correctly mentioned that no PF drafted in this range will come right in and start. Given that fact, my preference is to draft a young big man (if one is available) and try to develop him for the approx 2 year time frame in which the Sixers should become legitimate contenders. Unless a realy stud swing player or PF slips through the cracks, drafting a young center to add depth up front makes a lot of sense for the short to long term future. This pick doesn't make or break next season anyway, so shoot for bigger gains in 2-3 seasons if that type of player is available.

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