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Sir Charles played a fair share at SF. He was a tweener, especially early in his career.
One of my favorite Sixers team '89/90 had Charles starting at SF: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHI/1990.html
PG:Dawk
SG: Hawk
SF: Chuckster
PF: Mahorn
C: G'Man
6th: Anderson
Deep Bench: Thunder Bob, Scottie Brooks, Kenny the Payne
One of my favorite Sixers team '89/90 had Charles starting at SF: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHI/1990.html
PG:Dawk
SG: Hawk
SF: Chuckster
PF: Mahorn
C: G'Man
6th: Anderson
Deep Bench: Thunder Bob, Scottie Brooks, Kenny the Payne
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In keeping with my maverick nature, I'm going with my favorites at the expense of a couple of probably greater talents who most in their right minds would pick.
Point Guards: Mo Cheeks and Andre Miller. What can I say? I prefer great floor generals who score when it is needed.
Shooting Guards: Hal Greer and Andrew Toney. Ivy is the greater talent, and I really did appreciate the opportunity to enjoy him. But quite frankly I believe the others were better shooters, infinitely better defenders, and would actually give it up on a give and go. When he played for us, I thought AI hogged the ball...whether out of necessity or not.
Small Forwards: Julius Erving and Chet Walker.
Power Forwards: Dolph Schayes and Luke Jackson. Like Iverson, Charles Barkley was the greater talent. It just always annoyed me when he dribbled out the clock backing down his man from the left key. He always made the shot, was clutch, fast, and a great rebounder, but I always hated so much one on one (although I realize it is sometimes necessary). Again, it could be explained by his surrounding cast. He also was a lousy defender.
Centers: Wilt Chamberlain and Moses Malone.
Sixth Men: I loved Blue, but I'll go with Billy Cunningham and Bobby Jones.
Coaches: Championships are what it is all about so I have to go with Alex Hannum and Billy Cunningham, but I'm adding Larry Brown who did the "mostest" with the "leastest".
Point Guards: Mo Cheeks and Andre Miller. What can I say? I prefer great floor generals who score when it is needed.
Shooting Guards: Hal Greer and Andrew Toney. Ivy is the greater talent, and I really did appreciate the opportunity to enjoy him. But quite frankly I believe the others were better shooters, infinitely better defenders, and would actually give it up on a give and go. When he played for us, I thought AI hogged the ball...whether out of necessity or not.
Small Forwards: Julius Erving and Chet Walker.
Power Forwards: Dolph Schayes and Luke Jackson. Like Iverson, Charles Barkley was the greater talent. It just always annoyed me when he dribbled out the clock backing down his man from the left key. He always made the shot, was clutch, fast, and a great rebounder, but I always hated so much one on one (although I realize it is sometimes necessary). Again, it could be explained by his surrounding cast. He also was a lousy defender.
Centers: Wilt Chamberlain and Moses Malone.
Sixth Men: I loved Blue, but I'll go with Billy Cunningham and Bobby Jones.
Coaches: Championships are what it is all about so I have to go with Alex Hannum and Billy Cunningham, but I'm adding Larry Brown who did the "mostest" with the "leastest".
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tk76 wrote:Sir Charles played a fair share at SF. He was a tweener, especially early in his career.
One of my favorite Sixers team '89/90 had Charles starting at SF: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHI/1990.html
PG:Dawk
SG: Hawk
SF: Chuckster
PF: Mahorn
C: G'Man
6th: Anderson
Deep Bench: Thunder Bob, Scottie Brooks, Kenny the Payne
C'mon man he's considered one of the best PFs of all time. Just because he played SF in spot minutes doesn't mean it would make sense to play him out of position often. He thrived as a PF so making him play at the 3 is wasting his talent and that of the team(especially if DrJ is on the bench)
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ChuckS wrote:In keeping with my maverick nature, I'm going with my favorites at the expense of a couple of probably greater talents who most in their right minds would pick.
Point Guards: Mo Cheeks and Andre Miller. What can I say? I prefer great floor generals who score when it is needed.
Shooting Guards: Hal Greer and Andrew Toney. Ivy is the greater talent, and I really did appreciate the opportunity to enjoy him. But quite frankly I believe the others were better shooters, infinitely better defenders, and would actually give it up on a give and go. When he played for us, I thought AI hogged the ball...whether out of necessity or not.
Small Forwards: Julius Erving and Chet Walker.
Power Forwards: Dolph Schayes and Luke Jackson. Like Iverson, Charles Barkley was the greater talent. It just always annoyed me when he dribbled out the clock backing down his man from the left key. He always made the shot, was clutch, fast, and a great rebounder, but I always hated so much one on one (although I realize it is sometimes necessary). Again, it could be explained by his surrounding cast. He also was a lousy defender.
Centers: Wilt Chamberlain and Moses Malone.
Sixth Men: I loved Blue, but I'll go with Billy Cunningham and Bobby Jones.
Coaches: Championships are what it is all about so I have to go with Alex Hannum and Billy Cunningham, but I'm adding Larry Brown who did the "mostest" with the "leastest".
Freaky, other than playing Barkley as the second SF ahead of Walker, I could not agree with this list more. Barkley showed when he played on the Olympic Dream Team the kind of layer he could be surrounded by more talent. Walker would be my third choice at SF, although Iggy would fit into that role as well. Moving Barkley to SF I would consider a shot-blocker like Ratliff as my fifth big man playing both PF and C. I also keep Larry Brown away from this team, they don't need all the yapping he would feel compelled to do. Note his work with the Olympic team.
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My All-Time starting 5:
PG: Mo
SG: AI
SF: Dr. J
PF: Barkley
C: Wilt
My All-Time craziest starting 5
PG: Dana Barros
SG: Willie Green
SF: Willie Burton
PF: Sharone Wright
C: Shawn Bradley
PG: Mo
SG: AI
SF: Dr. J
PF: Barkley
C: Wilt
My All-Time craziest starting 5
PG: Dana Barros
SG: Willie Green
SF: Willie Burton
PF: Sharone Wright
C: Shawn Bradley
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bballin76 wrote:My All-Time starting 5:
PG: Mo
SG: AI
SF: Dr. J
PF: Barkley
C: Wilt
My All-Time craziest starting 5
PG: Dana Barros
SG: Willie Green
SF: Willie Burton
PF: Sharone Wright
C: Shawn Bradley
I would put Manute in front of Bradley, althou I gues Bol never was a starter.
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Philly_King wrote:tk76 wrote:Sir Charles played a fair share at SF. He was a tweener, especially early in his career.
One of my favorite Sixers team '89/90 had Charles starting at SF: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHI/1990.html
PG:Dawk
SG: Hawk
SF: Chuckster
PF: Mahorn
C: G'Man
6th: Anderson
Deep Bench: Thunder Bob, Scottie Brooks, Kenny the Payne
C'mon man he's considered one of the best PFs of all time. Just because he played SF in spot minutes doesn't mean it would make sense to play him out of position often. He thrived as a PF so making him play at the 3 is wasting his talent and that of the team(especially if DrJ is on the bench)
tk is correct, Barkley was a tweener who played a lot of SF early in his career before he started to pack on the pounds and lost some of his quickness. He was the SF on the Mahorn teams as noted and that was the best Sixers team he played on when he was the franchise guy. The god-forsaken Ruland/Hinson trades were also meant to keep Chuck at SF with Ruland at C, Hinson at PF and Cliff Robinson at PF and while the trades were executed poorly, the concept was sound to surround Barkley with a bruising high post passer at C and a super shotblocker at PF. Barkley was always way too short to adequately defend decent PF's. In truth he was a forward and a player that was impossible to easily categorize or typecast. Barkley, like Iverson, was a true tweener who simply had so much talent that he was able to succeed despite his unusual size ability combination. Just because some lazy writers who think everyone has to be fit into a pre-ordained set of position descriptions call him a power forward for purposes of comparing him to other players, doesn't make it true. Being a powerful forward is not the same thing as being a power forward in the classic sense.
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I enjoyed watching SF Barkley a whole lot more than the PF Barkley that held the ball in the post hoping for an illegal defense call. His greatest Philly moments where when he was running the floor.
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Kangaroo Kid is Billy Cunningham.
kanga wrote:Swoll Cracker wrote:C- Big Dipper
F- Lord Charles
F - Doc
G- Bulldog
G- AI
Off the bench:
Moses
Chet the Jet
Kangaroo Kid
World B.
Mo
Scrubs:
Lucious
Wally Wonder
Bobby Jones
Andrew Toney
Johnny Callison
I don't know who Kangaroo Kid is, but i like him.
No room for Dolph Schayes on your bench?
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Half this board is too young and the other half is too old.
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I totally forgot about the Dawk. Him and smashing the backboards baby! I should replace Daly with the Dawk.
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PG: Maurice Cheeks
SG: Hal Greer
SF: Dr. J
PF: Moses Malone
C: WIlt Chamberlain
SIxth man: Allen Iverson, Charles Barkley.
SG: Hal Greer
SF: Dr. J
PF: Moses Malone
C: WIlt Chamberlain
SIxth man: Allen Iverson, Charles Barkley.
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Kunlun wrote:PG: Maurice Cheeks
SG: Hal Greer
SF: Dr. J
PF: Moses Malone
C: WIlt Chamberlain
SIxth man: Allen Iverson, Charles Barkley.
I'd take that lineup & add Cunningham, Chocolate Thunder, and Free to the active bench.
IR list would have Chet Walker, Dolph Schayes & any one of the following guys: Wail Jones or Lucious Jackson.
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tk76 wrote:but I'm guessing he was better than today's embattled leader.
It was before my time, but the year we won the title Greer avg like 28 ppg in the post season. He is probably the most underrated Sixer of all-time.
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Interesting show on NBA TV yesterday where they highlighted Andrew Toney. Had clips and comments from former players, who were comparing him to being the most feared guy they had to line up against except for Jordan (Bird was one of the players they quoted). They also said if he didn't have the foot injuries, he easily would have ended up on the NBA top 50 team of all time. He was such a key player for the Championship team, and I remember him being a fantastic player, but I was kind of suprised to hear that much accolade for him. Stats wise, he's a career 50% shooter from the floor, 80% from the line and really never was 'the man' as he always played with Doc & co. Would have been interesting to see where he actually ended up if he did not have the injuries...can't start him on this type of team, but he definitely would be a bench player.
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All of the big names have been mentioned but a name that almost never comes up is Ron Anderson. He wasn;t an All-Star but for a while there, Ron was one of the best 6th men in the league and had an outstanding outside shot.
I'm telling you... the 1990 team is my favorite of all-time.
I'm telling you... the 1990 team is my favorite of all-time.
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Does anyone remember Wally Jones's shot? His whole body would convulse when taking a shot. I would put him on the team just to watch him shoot.....LOL.......
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BillyHoyle wrote:if you could select an All-Time 76ers starting 5, (don't focus only on numbers but on "team-chemistry" as well), how would it look like?
iverson and toney at guard..bobby jones and barkley at forward with wilt at center.cheeks( my all time fav 6ers),kangeroo kid, doc,luke jackson and moses as the 2nd five..coached by dr. ramsey ast. jim o'brien ( did the most with the least ..also outcoached that play the right way..brown)
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PF- Billy Cunningham
SF- DR J
C Big Dipper Chamberlain
G Hal Greer
G Doug Collins
SF- DR J
C Big Dipper Chamberlain
G Hal Greer
G Doug Collins