Embiid Updates/Discussion

[sixers hoops]

Smokescreen. How convenient for the FO to release this vague report right before the draft. For all we know, Sixers expected his foot to be at 100% now but he's only 99.5% healed.

If Okafor somehow falls to us, this gives us more leverage to trade down. #teamchill

I wish, but I don't read it that way.

Woj is not the sucker that gets suckered to throw out smokescreen info. If he reported it, it is likely info he obtained independent of the usual smokescreen pipeline that generally goes to Lynum or Pompei.

I think it was info that Hinkie probably wanted to release when he was ready.

The trade down leverage makes a little sense, but I dont see this Embiid info released to serve that little purpose. I think he is likely a little behind were they hoped he be.

Just my speculation but I think the Woj report is legit, and not released as a smokescreen.

[NYSixersFan]

oh it's only been 12 months since a 5-8 month rehab began.

oh and i'm sure this entire time the Sixers haven't been using the world's best doctor's to monitor him constantly.

oh and the player in question is a 7 ft 300 lb man who has been suffering monthly injuries since high school and couldn't get through a 35 game college season.

what could possibly be wrong?

i'm sure it's no big deal.

LOL...well said...very well said

[OleSchool]

oh it's only been 12 months since a 5-8 month rehab began.

oh and i'm sure this entire time the Sixers haven't been using the world's best doctor's to monitor him constantly.

oh and the player in question is a 7 ft 300 lb man who has been suffering monthly injuries since high school and couldn't get through a 35 game college season.

what could possibly be wrong?

i'm sure it's no big deal.

260lbs.....

[Skates]

I haven't been on the board since last night, has Embiid been pronounced DOA since then? I thought the entire sky was falling, but it just turned out to be a little thunderstorm.

Hinkie wasn't fired while I was away was he?

[snoopdogg88]

I haven't been on the board since last night, has Embiid been pronounced DOA since then? I thought the entire sky was falling, but it just turned out to be a little thunderstorm.

Hinkie wasn't fired while I was away was he?

no but burying your head in the sand over awful news isn't much of a strategy either.

[OleSchool]

I haven't been on the board since last night, has Embiid been pronounced DOA since then? I thought the entire sky was falling, but it just turned out to be a little thunderstorm.

Hinkie wasn't fired while I was away was he?

no but burying your head in the sand over awful news isn't much of a strategy either.

this isn't AWFUL news, it may be concerning, even slightly bad news but, awful?? no

All that came out is his foot isn't where the doc would hope it would be. Not another surgery (that would be awful news)

[sixers hoops]

oh it's only been 12 months since a 5-8 month rehab began.

oh and i'm sure this entire time the Sixers haven't been using the world's best doctor's to monitor him constantly.

oh and the player in question is a 7 ft 300 lb man who has been suffering monthly injuries since high school and couldn't get through a 35 game college season.

what could possibly be wrong?

i'm sure it's no big deal.

Definitely legit concerns. Otherwise, he was clearly going to be the first pick.

Reports are that he actually only got up into the 260-270 range, and plays at 250. Significantly lighter than more lumbering centers with the injury.

I am skeptical, but the reasonable hope that he could recover and stay healthy with the best available medicine, makes it worth the risk for me. He has franchise player upside.

Being a skeptic though, I'd happily take a big and prepare to move on without him if need be.

[snoopdogg88]

it's been 12 months. if his foot isn't where it needs to be , then when will it?

i guess i'm just not understanding what #teamchill thinks the end game of this will be? Other than surgery or sitting out another long period of time.
like magically we'll get a report next week- "Well turns out he just needs another month or two of resting! Sorry for the false alarm!"

[DavidHume]

it's been 12 months. if his foot isn't where it needs to be , then when will it?

i guess i'm just not understanding what #teamchill thinks the end game of this will be? Other than surgery or sitting out another long period of time.
like magically we'll get a report next week- "Well turns out he just needs another month or two of resting! Sorry for the false alarm!"

How long is a piece of string?

[NYSixersFan]

it's been 12 months. if his foot isn't where it needs to be , then when will it?

i guess i'm just not understanding what #teamchill thinks the end game of this will be? Other than surgery or sitting out another long period of time.
like magically we'll get a report next week- "Well turns out he just needs another month or two of resting! Sorry for the false alarm!"

Keep preaching..I like it

[OleSchool]

it's been 12 months. if his foot isn't where it needs to be , then when will it?

i guess i'm just not understanding what #teamchill thinks the end game of this will be? Other than surgery or sitting out another long period of time.
like magically we'll get a report next week- "Well turns out he just needs another month or two of resting! Sorry for the false alarm!"

Isn't that the exact thing that happened when he was in the walking boot this year??

Im not burying my head in the sand and that is why Im ok with taking a big at 3. Even if this turns out to be nothing it wouldn't hurt to have him play 30 mins or less a game

[76thBearCub]

it's been 12 months. if his foot isn't where it needs to be , then when will it?

i guess i'm just not understanding what #teamchill thinks the end game of this will be? Other than surgery or sitting out another long period of time.
like magically we'll get a report next week- "Well turns out he just needs another month or two of resting! Sorry for the false alarm!"

Keep preaching..I like it

Yes please keep repeating yourself.

Its bad news. No ****.

[Ericb5]

There are some universal truths here.

Some people are optimistic by nature and some people are pessimistic by nature.

Embiid is a generational basketball prospect that fell to us at 3 due to his legitimate and serious injury concerns

Taking Embiid at 3 was the right move given what the options were

The Sixers are more conservative than most teams with injuries and handled Noel perfectly

Embiid's injury is one of the scariest injuries that a big man can have.

There was no pain and no additional injury to the foot

This is a forced recalibration of the recovery effort and process due to a missed benchmark.

The rest is now speculation.

I'm not burying my head in the sand when I stay optimistic. I understand fully the risks associated with Embiid, and this is obviously bad news.

We just don't know how bad it really is. Hopefully we get some more information soon, but since it is in the team's best interest for outsiders to think that Embiid is not going to ever recover for the purposes of obscuring our intentions in the draft, we are unlikely to get any real clarification on this situation before then.






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[rzzzzz]

for those disposed to pessimism, the diagnosis that would be of concern in this particular situation is avascular necrosis. if the bone is not getting sufficient blood flow, then there is a serious problem, and a likely major intervention. as long as JoJo's doc isn't tossing this term around, and so far no one in the know has even hinted at it, then it's nothing more than additional healing time.

[LloydFree]

Team WeShouldaTradedUpForWiggins came out from under their rocks and is in it's glory today. Too bad you can't buy a time machine and make those dreams come true. Rejoicing for a few weeks will have to do, I guess.

[TigerInYourTank]

Team WeShouldaTradedUpForWiggins came out from under their rocks and is in it's glory today. Too bad you can't buy a time machine and make those dreams come true. Rejoicing for a few weeks will have to do, I guess.

For the record, I always wanted Embiid, injury and all, but I'm not ready to put a smiley face on this news. If he has a bad diet, that would be the best case, as it both explains the slow healing and gives a long-term solution to the problem.

[Ben]

How many of us really thought that trading up for Wiggins was a possibility? I sure didn't. I was pissed that the Sixers got #3 in the lottery, but once that happened there wasn't much else to do 'cept pick Embiid or trade the pick altogether (not trade up, 'cause I don't believe that Milwaukee or Minny were looking to trade).

But I've been extremely concerned about Embiid from the start-- as snoopdogg88 implied, hefty 7 footers with foot or back problems don't have a great long-term track record. This latest news is not a small red flag but a big one. I would be up for trading Embiid for whatever the Sixers can get for him and move on from there. But I'd still take Russell at #3 unless Okafor falls rather than draft a less promising big man.

And if the Sixers don't trade Embiid I'll keep my fingers crossed for him, but I won't pretend that a full recovery is as likely to happen as not.

[NYSixersFan]

1) When you draft a 7 footer with back problems in college and then a serious foot foot injury, the chances for a long healthy career are way less then 50%, IMO. So when you draft a player like that, you don't get the benefit of the doubt when he's hurt again.

2) Stop with the nonsense of "would rather have drafted Embiid or.....with the 3rd pick"? This is not baseball....you can trade down...you can trade for established players....I would not have drafted Embiid....I would have looked at other options....and I'm very confident there were many options available.

3) This so called plan involves two major factors...hope and luck....that's not a plan.

[Highfive]

The timing of all of this... so close to the draft... has to be taken with a grain of sand. It is all too much fodder for smokescreen at this point. Who knows what deals are being discussed and negotiated behind the scenes!

We will have to wait until at least after the draft to know if this "news" is to be taken seriously.

Maybe Embiid's presence in the SL would cast too strong a shadow over our new draftees (especially if we select Okafor). Let the new kids have limelight! Embiid doesn't have anything to prove that he hasn't already shown in practice.

And if we do select Okafor... lingering doubts over Embiid's health would only help keep Okafor's value high for hinkie by preventing other GM's from assuming Hinkie had to move Okafor.

When I hear news that Embiid will not be ready to attend practice in October... then I will become concerned.

[LloydFree]

How many of us really thought that trading up for Wiggins was a possibility? I sure didn't. I was pissed that the Sixers got #3 in the lottery, but once that happened there wasn't much else to do 'cept pick Embiid or trade the pick altogether (not trade up, 'cause I don't believe that Milwaukee or Minny were looking to trade).

But I've been extremely concerned about Embiid from the start-- as snoopdogg88 implied, hefty 7 footers with foot or back problems don't have a great long-term track record. This latest news is not a small red flag but a big one. I would be up for trading Embiid for whatever the Sixers can get for him and move on from there. But I'd still take Russell at #3 unless Okafor falls rather than draft a less promising big man.

And if the Sixers don't trade Embiid I'll keep my fingers crossed for him, but I won't pretend that a full recovery is as likely to happen as not.

I didn't realize the Bulls had the #3 pick last year. FO.