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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#201 » by mksp » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:18 am

Fans need to intervene somehow.

Like, I'd be willing to negotiate with Bryan, maybe we could come to some sort of compromise.

"Okay, you can sign Evan Fournier OR Harrison Barnes to a max contract, BUT we get to keep Nerlens, or trade him for acceptable value."
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#202 » by HankTheTank » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:19 am

Cheatergriffin wrote:This has to be a smokescreen for boston?


But... The purpose of a smokescreen is to increase the value of your asset. This does the opposite.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#203 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:21 am

BullyKing wrote:BC doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that thinks to ask for pick swaps in trades


Yup. REAL "Basketball Guys" don't have any use for a few extra ping pong balls when we could get mediocre veterans instead.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#204 » by Cheatergriffin » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:22 am

I agree with you, but what if BC is trying to show hes willing to keep okafor and move noel
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#205 » by Slacktard » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:22 am

The hilarity will be all those Hinkie haters and those in the media wont be able to drop to their knees fast enuf to kiss BC's @@@ and talk about how we got a former allstar to solve our PG problem.

Then get to watch the team climb bACK into the garbage 6th to 10th seed treadmill before Hinkie.

Exactly what established core is our new 28 year old PG going to lead? Noel has two seasons under his belt, but he was traded.

So a one year vet in Okafor and a first year Simmons/Saric/Embiid... OK so now our PG is what 30? Before those guys even have mutiple years in the league. Oh yea and if he is even still here he is prob getting near 30m a season...

I'm done if this deal happens, yea Que all the "good riddens". Don't care. Hinkie may never have built a winner, but at least I could understand the strategy.

If BC does this it is nothing short of insanity to think he is building a winner here.
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Post#206 » by marcush » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:23 am

BC probably thinks he's a really likeable and popular dude at the moment, that phone will be running hot. Unfortunately, he's popular in the same way Billy King was, in that he's as dumb as a brick with an itchy trigger finger.
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Post#207 » by BullyKing » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:23 am

The reaction in this thread is the complete opposite of the MCW trade one. Fully justified.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#208 » by Cheatergriffin » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:28 am

Unfortunately, just trying to stay optimistic. Have to think he is trying to show Boston they are willing to keep okafor as the insurance to embiid and leak this to show they'll find their pg by moving noel to hopefully increase value for jahlil?

Had little to zero faith in BC before this offseason/draft and if this is his first move i will be tremendously underwhelmed to say the least with the new management/ownership.
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Post#209 » by Skates » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:39 am

BullyKing wrote:The reaction in this thread is the complete opposite of the MCW trade one. Fully justified.


Seriously bring MCW back on the cheap. Use our excess cap space to overpay some young vets. Bring in the mediocre vets, just don't do it at the price of Noel and Covington.

Hinkie tried to make the deal using Ish, Nik and a late first and almost got the deal done except they were worried about Ish leaving in FA. How the eff did the price skyrocket from that to this??
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Post#210 » by reload141 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:41 am

Boston fan - I come in peace.

I do think this is to try and get Boston (maybe other teams too?) to increase the value for Okafor but if BC is deadset keen on trading Noel then what do you think about trading him to Minny for Rubio? Rubio & Okafor together would be really good I would think and Minny can pick Dunn at 5 with Towns being the 4 and Noel the 5... thoughts?
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#211 » by 76erStu » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:41 am

I understand the people on here saying some overvalue Noel. But trading him for an above average PG who is likely going to cost close to the max (30 mil annually) next year in a league stacked with talented PG's is not a good trade. Period. This would turn my worries about BC into angry realizations, and ultimately detachment from the Harris/Colangelo's clan.
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Post#212 » by BullyKing » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:41 am

Skates wrote:
BullyKing wrote:The reaction in this thread is the complete opposite of the MCW trade one. Fully justified.


Seriously bring MCW back on the cheap. Use our excess cap space to overpay some young vets. Bring in the mediocre vets, just don't do it at the price of Noel and Covington.

Hinkie tried to make the deal using Ish, Nik and a late first and almost got the deal done except they were worried about Ish leaving in FA. How the eff did the price skyrocket from that to this??


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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#213 » by Slacktard » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:41 am

marcush wrote:BC probably thinks he's a really likeable and popular dude at the moment, that phone will be running hot. Unfortunately, he's popular in the same way Billy King was, in that he's as dumb as a brick with an itchy trigger finger.


I think two or three years from now if you go to the realgm outstanding future draft picks page the Sixers are gonna look a lot like the Nets with a long outgoing list and very little incoming.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#214 » by Ericb5 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:42 am

BullyKing wrote:The reaction in this thread is the complete opposite of the MCW trade one. Fully justified.



We are at a different stage now. We are no longer tanking, and we now have 2 potential franchise players.

Trading Noel symbolically maybe seems like giving up on the future, but he is not a great basketball player, and he either plateaued or regressed this year.

I am on board with this deal if:

1. Teague signs an extension at less than the max.
2. Okafor stays on the team now at least for the time.
3. We need to get something of value in addition from Atlanta like a future pick or two.

Okafor fits less than Noel, but is a better talent. I won't cry for losing Noel, but it would be a travesty to trade him for a 1 year Teague rental.


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Post#215 » by Ericb5 » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:44 am

reload141 wrote:Boston fan - I come in peace.

I do think this is to try and get Boston (maybe other teams too?) to increase the value for Okafor but if BC is deadset keen on trading Noel then what do you think about trading him to Minny for Rubio? Rubio & Okafor together would be really good I would think and Minny can pick Dunn at 5 with Towns being the 4 and Noel the 5... thoughts?


Value wise perhaps, but Rubio isn't a good shooter. Teague is.


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Post#216 » by Winejk » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:47 am

Slacktard wrote:The hilarity will be all those Hinkie haters and those in the media wont be able to drop to their knees fast enuf to kiss BC's @@@ and talk about how we got a former allstar to solve our PG problem.

Then get to watch the team climb bACK into the garbage 6th to 10th seed treadmill before Hinkie.

Exactly what established core is our new 28 year old PG going to lead? Noel has two seasons under his belt, but he was traded.

So a one year vet in Okafor and a first year Simmons/Saric/Embiid... OK so now our PG is what 30? Before those guys even have mutiple years in the league. Oh yea and if he is even still here he is prob getting near 30m a season...

I'm done if this deal happens, yea Que all the "good riddens". Don't care. Hinkie may never have built a winner, but at least I could understand the strategy.

If BC does this it is nothing short of insanity to think he is building a winner here.


If Philly climbs in to the 6th - 10th seed, that's progress. With the youth of the team - Okafor, Embiid and presumably Simmons - there is still room for a ton of growth. They are not maxed out in potential. Plus there is the gift that keeps on giving: Hinkie's trades for the Laker's pick and Sacramento pick swap and unconditional pick. Oh, and there is oodles of cap space to sign free agents. If Philly made the 10th seed next season which was a 41-41 record in the east, that would be miraculous. There's still a lot more assets and potential growth in the cupboard to improve from that point on.

Teague turns 28 next week. If Teague can lead the Sixers and its youth to a #6-#8 seed in the east by the time he's 30, I'd take that. After that if he can morph into Jason Terry and become a quality 6th or 7th man (we potentially have two lottery picks in next years draft that is full on guards) on a winning team without commanding a ridiculous salary, and let's face it $8 million after the cap rises this upcoming season is not a ridiculous salary, I would welcome that.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#217 » by Winejk » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:49 am

reload141 wrote:Boston fan - I come in peace.

I do think this is to try and get Boston (maybe other teams too?) to increase the value for Okafor but if BC is deadset keen on trading Noel then what do you think about trading him to Minny for Rubio? Rubio & Okafor together would be really good I would think and Minny can pick Dunn at 5 with Towns being the 4 and Noel the 5... thoughts?



No. A front court with a combination of Okafor, Simmons and Embiid needs a PG that can shoot. Rubio can't do that.
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Re: Jeff Teague for Nerlens Noel discussed, not imminent 

Post#218 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:50 am

reload141 wrote:Boston fan - I come in peace.

I do think this is to try and get Boston (maybe other teams too?) to increase the value for Okafor but if BC is deadset keen on trading Noel then what do you think about trading him to Minny for Rubio? Rubio & Okafor together would be really good I would think and Minny can pick Dunn at 5 with Towns being the 4 and Noel the 5... thoughts?


I like Rubio and his contract is decent at around $14M/yr for the next 3 years considering the upcoming huge increase in salary cap, but he just can't shoot the 3 pointer. I don't think he'll ever be a good shooter so he's not a good fit with Simmons.

If the Wolves would take Noel plus minor assets (e.g. #24, #26, Stauskas, etc.) for #5 so we could take Dunn I'd be all over that.
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Post#219 » by BullyKing » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:51 am

Winejk wrote:
Slacktard wrote:The hilarity will be all those Hinkie haters and those in the media wont be able to drop to their knees fast enuf to kiss BC's @@@ and talk about how we got a former allstar to solve our PG problem.

Then get to watch the team climb bACK into the garbage 6th to 10th seed treadmill before Hinkie.

Exactly what established core is our new 28 year old PG going to lead? Noel has two seasons under his belt, but he was traded.

So a one year vet in Okafor and a first year Simmons/Saric/Embiid... OK so now our PG is what 30? Before those guys even have mutiple years in the league. Oh yea and if he is even still here he is prob getting near 30m a season...

I'm done if this deal happens, yea Que all the "good riddens". Don't care. Hinkie may never have built a winner, but at least I could understand the strategy.

If BC does this it is nothing short of insanity to think he is building a winner here.


If Philly climbs in to the 6th - 10th seed, that's progress. With the youth of the team - Okafor, Embiid and presumably Simmons - there is still room for a ton of growth. They are not maxed out in potential. Plus there is the gift that keeps on giving: Hinkie's trades for the Laker's pick and Sacramento pick swap and unconditional pick. Oh, and there is oodles of cap space to sign free agents. If Philly made the 10th seed next season which was a 41-41 record in the east, that would be miraculous. There's still a lot more assets and potential growth in the cupboard to improve from that point on.



You do realize we're trading those picks for guys like Terrence Ross and maxing out Eric Gordon, right?
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Post#220 » by Arsenal » Fri Jun 3, 2016 1:52 am

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Slacktard wrote:The hilarity will be all those Hinkie haters and those in the media wont be able to drop to their knees fast enuf to kiss BC's @@@ and talk about how we got a former allstar to solve our PG problem.

Then get to watch the team climb bACK into the garbage 6th to 10th seed treadmill before Hinkie.

Exactly what established core is our new 28 year old PG going to lead? Noel has two seasons under his belt, but he was traded.

So a one year vet in Okafor and a first year Simmons/Saric/Embiid... OK so now our PG is what 30? Before those guys even have mutiple years in the league. Oh yea and if he is even still here he is prob getting near 30m a season...

I'm done if this deal happens, yea Que all the "good riddens". Don't care. Hinkie may never have built a winner, but at least I could understand the strategy.

If BC does this it is nothing short of insanity to think he is building a winner here.


If Philly climbs in to the 6th - 10th seed, that's progress. With the youth of the team - Okafor, Embiid and presumably Simmons - there is still room for a ton of growth. They are not maxed out in potential. Plus there is the gift that keeps on giving: Hinkie's trades for the Laker's pick and Sacramento pick swap and unconditional pick. Oh, and there is oodles of cap space to sign free agents. If Philly made the 10th seed next season which was a 41-41 record in the east, that would be miraculous. There's still a lot more assets and potential growth in the cupboard to improve from that point on.

Teague turns 28 next week. If Teague can lead the Sixers and its youth to a #6-#8 seed in the east by the time he's 30, I'd take that. After that if he can morph into Jason Terry and become a quality 6th or 7th man (we potentially have two lottery picks in next years draft that is full on guards) on a winning team without commanding a ridiculous salary, and let's face it $8 million after the cap rises this upcoming season is not a ridiculous salary, I would welcome that.


This is all well and good, however the likely scenario is that we either 1) lose Teague for nothing next summer, or 2) Have to pay Teague ~$25M/yr to stay with us. Neither option is very appealing.

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