Fantasy Trade Thread

[PhilasFinest]

Yea, thats an AWFUL trade for the Sixers.

[Foshan]

I think the shine is really starting to come off of a guy like Dunn. Especially with Thibs desire to win now, I think we can add less than we expect to Noel to get that conversation going (or even LaVine if they think Dunn has a better shot of succeeding as a two guard)

[Sportfan73]

I think the shine is really starting to come off of a guy like Dunn. Especially with Thibs desire to win now, I think we can add less than we expect to Noel to get that conversation going (or even LaVine if they think Dunn has a better shot of succeeding as a two guard)

Agreed, one way or another I'm seeing a Twolves deal fast approaching.

[51X3RF4N]

I think the shine is really starting to come off of a guy like Dunn. Especially with Thibs desire to win now, I think we can add less than we expect to Noel to get that conversation going (or even LaVine if they think Dunn has a better shot of succeeding as a two guard)

Agreed, one way or another I'm seeing a Twolves deal fast approaching.

So, the thought process with a Minny deal for Noel is that they want a rim protector to put next to Towns, making Towns a PF. They'd role out with Noel/Towns/Wiggins/Dunn/Rubio or Noel/Towns/Wiggins/LaVine/Rubio...

Correct?

And the Sixers would get either Dunn or LaVine for Noel to put whichever of the 2 at SG next to Simmons at PG. Right?

[Kobblehead]

Wiggins, Lavine and Muhammed are all hopeless defenders. Those are the guys you'd figure Thibs would want to move within the coming years.

The only one I'd be interested in is Lavine. And unfortunately, his defense is so trash-tier that he's not even an ideal starter. Damn impressive offensive game, though.

[Foshan]

I think the shine is really starting to come off of a guy like Dunn. Especially with Thibs desire to win now, I think we can add less than we expect to Noel to get that conversation going (or even LaVine if they think Dunn has a better shot of succeeding as a two guard)

Agreed, one way or another I'm seeing a Twolves deal fast approaching.

So, the thought process with a Minny deal for Noel is that they want a rim protector to put next to Towns, making Towns a PF. They'd role out with Noel/Towns/Wiggins/Dunn/Rubio or Noel/Towns/Wiggins/LaVine/Rubio...

Correct?

And the Sixers would get either Dunn or LaVine for Noel to put whichever of the 2 at SG next to Simmons at PG. Right?

I'm not saying philly doesn't add more than Noel to get it done... but I'm saying these two guys (Dunn / Lavine) once touted as untouchable and out of our league to land, now look VERY moveable in the right deal. Again, I have no idea what the 'right deal' is.

Same can be said for Exum. *IF* we are going all in on landing guys and not worrying so much about the upcoming draft, i think a deal where we add what is necessary to Noel to get Lavine, and then we figure out something with Utah (3 way?) to move Okafor to land Exum.

We then run out Exum / Lavine / RoCo / Simmons / Embiid.

[51X3RF4N]

Agreed, one way or another I'm seeing a Twolves deal fast approaching.

So, the thought process with a Minny deal for Noel is that they want a rim protector to put next to Towns, making Towns a PF. They'd role out with Noel/Towns/Wiggins/Dunn/Rubio or Noel/Towns/Wiggins/LaVine/Rubio...

Correct?

And the Sixers would get either Dunn or LaVine for Noel to put whichever of the 2 at SG next to Simmons at PG. Right?

I'm not saying philly doesn't add more than Noel to get it done... but I'm saying these two guys (Dunn / Lavine) once touted as untouchable and out of our league to land, now look VERY moveable in the right deal. Again, I have no idea what the 'right deal' is.

Same can be said for Exum. *IF* we are going all in on landing guys and not worrying so much about the upcoming draft, i think a deal where we add what is necessary to Noel to get Lavine, and then we figure out something with Utah (3 way?) to move Okafor to land Exum.

We then run out Exum / Lavine / RoCo / Simmons / Embiid.

i hear ya. Was just curious.

I personally feel that Embiid is legit and could be a game changer on the right team. And Simmons is clearly talented enough to play some PG on offense, but will most likely need to defend SF's and PF's.

My wish is that this team would capitalize on it's assets and make a move to get a legit superstar or 2 in here to play alongside Simmons/Embiid. Include everything and anything to get it done except the 2017 pick. But that's just me.

I would LOVE to see Fultz as the PG/SG, who defends PG's. With a legit 3 and D type SG/SF who can defend SG's. And then a superstar PF like Blake or something is traded for to play next to Embiid. If Noel or Okafor can get you a 3 and D guy, and a combination of picks plus Saric and the other of Noel/Okafor can get you a stud PF.... I don't know the details on how to make that work. But that's how I'd try to build a winner.

[kevluch24]

Philly out: Noel/Okafor
Philly in: Brandon Knight, Mario Hezonjia

Suns out: Knight, Babosa
Suns in: Okafor Vonleh

Blazers out: Crabbe, Vonleh
Blazers in: Noel, Jeff Green

Magic out: Hezonjia, Green
Magic in: Crabbe, Barbosa

Gives us roster balance and i think is fair and what the other teams want/need. Trade works after the December deadline for recently signed players.

[LloydFree]

Philly out: Noel/Okafor
Philly in: Brandon Knight, Mario Hezonjia

Suns out: Knight, Babosa
Suns in: Okafor Vonleh

Blazers out: Crabbe, Vonleh
Blazers in: Noel, Jeff Green

Magic out: Hezonjia, Green
Magic in: Crabbe, Barbosa

Gives us roster balance and i think is fair and what the other teams want/need. Trade works after the December deadline for recently signed players.

Lol. People are still in love with Hezonja. He stinks now and he stunk when he was drafted. Nothing but a mixtape mirage that fooled amateurs (and Hennigan).

[BullyKing]

Philly out: Noel/Okafor
Philly in: Brandon Knight, Mario Hezonjia

Suns out: Knight, Babosa
Suns in: Okafor Vonleh

Blazers out: Crabbe, Vonleh
Blazers in: Noel, Jeff Green

Magic out: Hezonjia, Green
Magic in: Crabbe, Barbosa

Gives us roster balance and i think is fair and what the other teams want/need. Trade works after the December deadline for recently signed players.

Absolutely horrendous

[TTP]

Acquiring Brandon Knight scares me more than acquiring Hezonja. I don't understand why so many people seem to want him. He's a pretty poor fit (we almost certainly need our PG to be a plus defender), he's been given up on by 3 franchises now (assuming Suns are trading him), and he's at the age where he is what he is - he's 25 with over 10k NBA minutes played. I assume that the people interested in him just like him because he's a "name player" without putting a lot of thought into why they like him or why he's a good fit for our future.

Hezonja at least was a good prospect stuck on a miserable team that doesn't seem to understand lineup and roster construction. He's still very young with not a ton of minutes played and there's reasonable expectation that he could improve in a better situation. His FT% and his shooting from 16<3 in a limited sample are solid indications that he's a much better 3 point shooter than his current percentage indicates. Seems like a decent post-hype buy low target for a team that could greatly use the skills that his upside would amount to.

[LloydFree]

Acquiring Brandon Knight scares me more than acquiring Hezonja. I don't understand why so many people seem to want him. He's a pretty poor fit (we almost certainly need our PG to be a plus defender), he's been given up on by 3 franchises now (assuming Suns are trading him), and he's at the age where he is what he is - he's 25 with over 10k NBA minutes played. I assume that the people interested in him just like him because he's a "name player" without putting a lot of thought into why they like him or why he's a good fit for our future.

Hezonja at least was a good prospect stuck on a miserable team that doesn't seem to understand lineup and roster construction. He's still very young with not a ton of minutes played and there's reasonable expectation that he could improve in a better situation. His FT% and his shooting from 16<3 in a limited sample are solid indications that he's a much better 3 point shooter than his current percentage indicates. Seems like a decent post-hype buy low target for a team that could greatly use the skills that his upside would amount to.

Hezonja is a low IQ gunner, who can't dribble, but excites people because he can dunk.

[TTP]

Acquiring Brandon Knight scares me more than acquiring Hezonja. I don't understand why so many people seem to want him. He's a pretty poor fit (we almost certainly need our PG to be a plus defender), he's been given up on by 3 franchises now (assuming Suns are trading him), and he's at the age where he is what he is - he's 25 with over 10k NBA minutes played. I assume that the people interested in him just like him because he's a "name player" without putting a lot of thought into why they like him or why he's a good fit for our future.

Hezonja at least was a good prospect stuck on a miserable team that doesn't seem to understand lineup and roster construction. He's still very young with not a ton of minutes played and there's reasonable expectation that he could improve in a better situation. His FT% and his shooting from 16<3 in a limited sample are solid indications that he's a much better 3 point shooter than his current percentage indicates. Seems like a decent post-hype buy low target for a team that could greatly use the skills that his upside would amount to.

Hezonja is a low IQ gunner, who can't dribble, but excites people because he can dunk.

He can shoot though and has some defensive upside with his size/length/athleticism. He hasn't graded poorly on defense so far either, especially for a player his age. With Simmons, I think you can try and put Hezonja in a role where he doesn't have to create and try to mold him as a 3 and D that excels in transition.

[LloydFree]

Acquiring Brandon Knight scares me more than acquiring Hezonja. I don't understand why so many people seem to want him. He's a pretty poor fit (we almost certainly need our PG to be a plus defender), he's been given up on by 3 franchises now (assuming Suns are trading him), and he's at the age where he is what he is - he's 25 with over 10k NBA minutes played. I assume that the people interested in him just like him because he's a "name player" without putting a lot of thought into why they like him or why he's a good fit for our future.

Hezonja at least was a good prospect stuck on a miserable team that doesn't seem to understand lineup and roster construction. He's still very young with not a ton of minutes played and there's reasonable expectation that he could improve in a better situation. His FT% and his shooting from 16<3 in a limited sample are solid indications that he's a much better 3 point shooter than his current percentage indicates. Seems like a decent post-hype buy low target for a team that could greatly use the skills that his upside would amount to.

Hezonja is a low IQ gunner, who can't dribble, but excites people because he can dunk.

He can shoot though and has some defensive upside with his size/length/athleticism. He hasn't graded poorly on defense so far either, especially for a player his age. With Simmons, I think you can try and put Hezonja in a role where he doesn't have to create and try to mold him as a 3 and D that excels in transition.

My point of view is that backcourt and wing players who can't dribble lack serious upside. There are few and far between that improve significantly. Hezonja was also known as a dumb player, so that can't be helpfu, for a player whose limited skillset will ultimately force him to "stay in his lane" and play a role.
I'd rather take a chance on a guy like Dante Exum, who is the same age. He can handle the ball, competes and moves his feet on defense. He also has improved his free-throw shooting, which may indicate he will improve his 3 point shooting.

[Kobblehead]

I'm somewhat optimistic about Hezonja. He's a big, athletic wing with shooting skill. He's likely to mature into a solid bench scorer, like the F version of Nik Stauskas. If he somehow becomes a defender (long shot), he vaults into being an ideal complimentary starter with perfect line-up compatibility like Robert Covington.

[spikeslovechild]

What about Sacramento? Jobs maybe on he line. Could we force a WCS for Noel then adjust their pick swap into a 2017 first rounder?

Or are there some limits on their pick?

[bryanwithawhy]

Who says no?

Sixers trade Noel, Lakers 1st, Kings 1st, Rodriguez

Kings trade Middleton and Delly (negative value)


By the way, I love Noel, but I think a lot of you are overrating his value right now. I think some team will steal him away from us. He would be perfect with the Bucks or Warriors.

[the_process]

Who says no?

Sixers trade Noel, Lakers 1st, Kings 1st, Rodriguez

Kings trade Middleton and Delly (negative value)


By the way, I love Noel, but I think a lot of you are overrating his value right now. I think some team will steal him away from us. He would be perfect with the Bucks or Warriors.

It doesn't make sense to give Noel away when you still control him. Either a team pays up, or you let him on the market to get his price and then just match the offer he gets. This team will have ~60M in cap room his summer and no shot at any big FA's yet.

[the_process]

Acquiring Brandon Knight scares me more than acquiring Hezonja. I don't understand why so many people seem to want him. He's a pretty poor fit (we almost certainly need our PG to be a plus defender), he's been given up on by 3 franchises now (assuming Suns are trading him), and he's at the age where he is what he is - he's 25 with over 10k NBA minutes played. I assume that the people interested in him just like him because he's a "name player" without putting a lot of thought into why they like him or why he's a good fit for our future.

Hezonja at least was a good prospect stuck on a miserable team that doesn't seem to understand lineup and roster construction. He's still very young with not a ton of minutes played and there's reasonable expectation that he could improve in a better situation. His FT% and his shooting from 16<3 in a limited sample are solid indications that he's a much better 3 point shooter than his current percentage indicates. Seems like a decent post-hype buy low target for a team that could greatly use the skills that his upside would amount to.

Okafor and Rodriguez for Knight and the 2018 MIA 1st

And it's not so much for Knight, although he can shoot (career wise) so that will certainly help. That pick has upside if Riley strikes out in FA.

[BoomBap]

Who says no?

Sixers trade Noel, Lakers 1st, Kings 1st, Rodriguez

Kings trade Middleton and Delly (negative value)


By the way, I love Noel, but I think a lot of you are overrating his value right now. I think some team will steal him away from us. He would be perfect with the Bucks or Warriors.

It doesn't make sense to give Noel away when you still control him. Either a team pays up, or you let him on the market to get his price and then just match the offer he gets. This team will have ~60M in cap room his summer and no shot at any big FA's yet.

man, I don't know. Delly/Bayless orrrr maybe fultz (a man can dream)-Middleton-Covington-Simmons-Biid sounds **** good.