Horford to OKC For Green

[kriss73]

I mean: LOL

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[51X3RF4N]

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Seems pretty simple. Send us Hill, keep Ferguson, enjoy your giant TPE.

Vincent Poirier makes $2.6M. And there are signs in the interwebs that might point to him being traded to Philly.

So this makes sense.

But then you have 16 guys plus the 2 way players. Either wave someone or do a 2 for 1 or 3 for 2 trade.

Maybe consolidate Danny Green, Mike Scott and Furkan Korkmaz with picks for Buddy Hield?

Would have to wait until after the Horford trade is executed and then wait longer for adding guys to Danny Green and sending out in new deal...

Or could just be Poirier gets waived.

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[Arsenal]

No way we should just eat Poirier's deal for no compensation. Hell no. They can just take back Ferg and give us Hill instead.

[Arsenal]

Assuming the ownership put a limit to the cash spending (very likely, we're well above the tax line), I suppose it would be Hill (9.6M) or Ferguson (5) +MLE (4.7)

Not sure which is the best option.

Maybe Hill and re-sign RGIII to a vet min (if possibile), I suppose.

Well, considering Ferguson isn't likely to be much of a contributor, and Hill is far better than anyone they'd get at this stage for the MLE, I'd think that's a pretty easy choice.

I agree.
On the other side if OKC thinks to regain some value from Hill even at the trade deadline, getting Hill in the Harford deal is unlikley.

George Hill will be irate to be stuck in OKC this year on one of the worst teams of all time. At least last year w/Chris Paul they still had the playoff pieces from before around him. This year there is absolutely nothing except Shai.

Presti should do himself AND Hill a favor and send him to a contender... us.

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Seems pretty simple. Send us Hill, keep Ferguson, enjoy your giant TPE.

Maybe consolidate Danny Green, Mike Scott and Furkan Korkmaz with picks for Buddy Hield?

Dear god no.

Danny Green is a better player than Hield on a far better contract. The only reason we were willing to entertain Hield's negative contract before was because he was a better fit prior to our offseason moves and we were trying to unload an even more negative contract in Horford.

After our offseason moves, we're actually pretty heavy on one way shooters and lacking in positive defensive wings, so this would make our roster construction even worse. Adding picks to take on bad long-term money for a worse player would be crazy.

[LloydFree]

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Seems pretty simple. Send us Hill, keep Ferguson, enjoy your giant TPE.

Maybe consolidate Danny Green, Mike Scott and Furkan Korkmaz with picks for Buddy Hield?

Dear god no.

Danny Green is a better player than Hield on a far better contract. The only reason we were willing to entertain Hield's negative contract before was because he was a better fit prior to our offseason moves and we were trying to unload an even more negative contract in Horford.

After our offseason moves, we're actually pretty heavy on one way shooters and lacking in positive defensive wings, so this would make our roster construction even worse. Adding picks to take on bad long-term money for a worse player would be crazy.

Preach...

People don't understand the value of some players. He's a one dimensional player. No difference than Joe Harris or Landry Shamet. Frickin Luke Kennard is a better player than Buddy Heild and they just traded one late 1st for him. You don't trade everything not nailed down for Buddy frickin Heild.

[Negrodamus]

Didn't we just get a lower volume, more efficient Buddy Hield in Seth Curry for a fraction of the cap hit?

[BullyKing]

Maybe consolidate Danny Green, Mike Scott and Furkan Korkmaz with picks for Buddy Hield?

Dear god no.

Danny Green is a better player than Hield on a far better contract. The only reason we were willing to entertain Hield's negative contract before was because he was a better fit prior to our offseason moves and we were trying to unload an even more negative contract in Horford.

After our offseason moves, we're actually pretty heavy on one way shooters and lacking in positive defensive wings, so this would make our roster construction even worse. Adding picks to take on bad long-term money for a worse player would be crazy.

Preach...

People don't understand the value of some players. He's a one dimensional player. No difference than Joe Harris or Landry Shamet. Frickin Luke Kennard is a better player than Buddy Heild and they just traded one late 1st for him. You don't trade everything not nailed down for Buddy frickin Heild.

I agree with you and its actually worse than you presented. Detroit traded Kennard and four second round picks for a late 1st.

[Arsenal]

I agree. No to Buddy Hield unless an even more overpaid deal like Tobias is going out, e.g. the deal I posted in the trade thread of Tobias + Seth for Hield + Barnes.

[kriss73]

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First, OKC needs to add 2.6M to Green/Robertson salary to have the full Horford TPE, as a lot of people pointed out
Second, we would need an incentive to help the Celtic to keep such a massive and helpful TPE.

It would be very important for them going forward.

[Sixerscan]

Not surprised Boston is still trying to get the TPE, that would be huge for them.

That said, it seems like it would take a real asset to get OKC to take on Batum's huge salary? They're not gonna pay Batum $27 million for a 2nd round pick.

[mithrandir17]

Will Boston give out a protected first for the tpe? If so, CHA can just re-route that first from boston and add their own protected first and send it to OKC for Batum. Then OKC can just swap Hill for Ferguson to avoid adding other players to match Horford’s salary.

[mithrandir17]

Will Adam Silver allow the horford trade to be separated into 2 deals so we wont have to wait the Dec 8?

Horford + Micic + 2025 1st for Green
then
2nd round pick (Bey) + TPE from Horford trade for Hill

[ankle420breaker]

I'd expect Morey is just waiting this out. Happy to assist.

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[Arsenal]

Will Adam Silver allow the horford trade to be separated into 2 deals so we wont have to wait the Dec 8?

Horford + Micic + 2025 1st for Green
then
2nd round pick (Bey) + TPE from Horford trade for Hill

I don't believe this works for the same reason the original deal doesn't work. OKC isn't sending enough salary out w/Green + Ferg, so with just Green its even further from working.

If everyone else gets something, we better get something too. Like George Hill instead of Terrance Ferguson, who we have zero need for.

[Monix]

wouldn't getting Hill just give back the financial flexibility that this trade provides?

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Seems pretty simple. Send us Hill, keep Ferguson, enjoy your giant TPE.

Yes please

[youngcrev]

wouldn't getting Hill just give back the financial flexibility that this trade provides?

Not really. It basically mean getting him instead of a T.E., but you'd have a decent sized expiring that you could potentially trade later. Costs Josh a bit more, but that doesn't bother me.

[cool93]

wouldn't getting Hill just give back the financial flexibility that this trade provides?

Why? He is essentialy on an expiring contract.

[Monix]

is his last year non-guaranteed?

ok - looks like it's only about $2M guaranteed