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Post#201 » by underpressure » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:09 am

The Nets and Clippers choke big time. Thank you...

Despite being like 5 games or so in front of NJ, I am still not feeling comfortable.
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Post#202 » by SendEm » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:11 am

Damn NJ beat the Jazz!!? Boozer scored 41 points and Williams had 16 assists...
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Post#203 » by ankle420breaker » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:13 am

Andre Miller... 32 pts, 11-14 fg's, 10-11ft's, 2 steals, 5 boards, 7 assists, 0 TO's in 43 min. Unbelievable from start to finish.... Tony Parker who?

Iguodala hit some big shots down the stretch and Dalembert somehow managed to frustrate Tim Duncan who's usually old man steady.

Great win in front of a sell out crowd.
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Post#204 » by dbodner » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:14 am

SendEm wrote:For all of those that like to compare Iggy to Richard Jefferson, the dunk that RJ had against the Jazz in the half court offense tonight is what separates the two in their skill sets. Being able to crossover from behind the 3 point line and explode to the rim and finish over the top of the defense seems to be a very underrated skill to Iggy fans. As a Sixer supporter I can't overlook that deficiency ESPECIALLY for $57+ million dollars...


Richard Jefferson shoots 29% on 1-1 ISO plays.

Just thought I'd bring some facts into your diatribes. You may continue.
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Post#205 » by dbodner » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:16 am

SendEm wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



For the record that sentence WASN'T written in the past tense... :wink:


This sentence is incorrectly constructed. I took out that part of my post, because my question was rhetorical to prove a point, and I don't feel like getting into an argument about grammar on a message board. But since you've brought it up, "will be franchise crippling" is incorrect and infers that it is a foregone conclusion. A correctly constructed statement is phrased as "would be franchise crippling".

Whatever amount above that he is looking to receive will be franchise crippling.


And, once again, the question is rhetorical to prove a point.
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Post#206 » by darius08 » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:18 am

dbodner wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Richard Jefferson shoots 29% on 1-1 ISO plays.

Just thought I'd bring some facts into your diatribes. You may continue.


that's an interesting stat. what site lists stats like those?
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Post#207 » by dbodner » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:22 am

darius08 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



that's an interesting stat. what site lists stats like those?


Synergy Sports Tech, which I got access to for work I do for DraftExpress. They provide complete breakdowns, with videos, for NBA scouts.


One on One/ISO (10.89% of his offense) Below Average, NBA% 30, PPP 0.73 (FG 33/112 29.46% 29.91%a) Home Away Both
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Post#208 » by SendEm » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:30 am

dbodner wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Richard Jefferson shoots 29% on 1-1 ISO plays.

Just thought I'd bring some facts into your diatribes. You may continue.


What did he shoot in his contract year and the seasons where the Nets went to the finals? What did he shoot back when he was averaging like 24 ppg? I do understand that players have off years and I COMPLETELY expect Iggy to have some off years in the near future which will be franchise crippling when he is making $11.5++++++++++++++++++++ million dollars per season. Remember he TURNED DOWN $11.5 million.
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Post#209 » by darius08 » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:31 am

Thanks dabods. sounds cool.
how does dala's one on percentage look?
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Post#210 » by dbodner » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:35 am

Dala's percentage is 42%, which is slightly above nba average (better than 55% of nba players).

I don't have previous years stats. But if you're implying that Richard Jefferson is not trying as hard in 1-1 situations because he got his big fat contract, I'm not sure how that proves your point. You used an example from THIS YEAR to try to prove a point.
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Post#211 » by dbodner » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:36 am

Remember he TURNED DOWN $11.5 million


And when did he sign a contract for more than that? When did an NBA team offer him a bigger contract? What does this prove?

I think I know why SendEm hates Iggy. He's Andre's agent, and is looking to lose tons of $ from Andre's mistake last summer.
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Post#212 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:38 am

Sendem: You're getting to the point where I just CANNOT stand you anymore. Ricky was funny, you're just a pain in the...I can't say it because it's flaming. Iguodala's done a nice job, 20+ PPG against one of the better defensive teams in the league. He's averaging over 19 a game. Are there flaws? Certainly. I would love for Iguodala to revert back to his role of being a playmaker. I would love for Iggy to be able to shoot consistantly from the field. I don't mind if Iggy's not able to blow by defenders. If he can create for himself and for his team mates which he has shown he can throughout his entire NBA career. Then he's worth a high level contract.
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Post#213 » by SendEm » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:44 am

dbodner wrote:Dala's percentage is 42%, which is slightly above nba average (better than 55% of nba players).

I don't have previous years stats. But if you're implying that Richard Jefferson is not trying as hard in 1-1 situations because he got his big fat contract, I'm not sure how that proves your point. You used an example from THIS YEAR to try to prove a point.


The point that I was making is that Iguodala IS NOT worth as much money as RJ. Reread how I introduced the original post. RJ going into his free agency dislayed more skill than Iggy and even still to this very day.
I have seen RJ have 40 point games and I believe that he has scored 50 a time or two so the "isolation play shooting percentage" stat is VERY misleading especially considering what a mess of a franchise NJ has been the last couple of seasons. Great players should perform through that mess, but RJ isn't a great player nor is Iggy...
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Post#214 » by sixers_610 » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:45 am

Sixersftw wrote:word. sam dalembert has been a god.
Iguodala has been plain sick
ed snider what would sheed do?

Cut the Check.


THey tried to cut the check. Iguodala isn't worth more than he was offered last summer.. maybe $2 or $3 million tops.




By the way, I am speechless. I don't know what to say about this team. They have no right winning some of these games.
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Post#215 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:48 am

Just shut up and drink some Kool-Aid!
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Post#216 » by Anth0ny » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:50 am

Roletagg wrote:The Sixers are now 33-34

IMO we'll overcome the Wizards in the next few games for the six spot. Does anyone see us finishing ahead of Toronto for the five spot before the end of the season?


Raptors fan here. I'd like to say that you guys are doing awesome right now. Very impressive wins over Detroit and San Antonio.

Considering the Raptors are tanking right now, there is a good chance that you guys could overtake us at the 5 seed. However, I don't know if you would even want that, because most of us at the Raptors board sure as hell don't. 5 seed in the East gives you a first round match up with LeBron James. He's a scary guy, and in the play offs, I don't think there are many teams that want to face him the the playoffs, especially (no offence) a young and inexperienced team such as the Sixers.

To be honest, the best match up that I could forsee would be Wizards vs. Cavs. If Gilbert is back and healthy, they are pretty evenly matched teams. As well, Stevenson was definately pissing off LeBron the other day, and that prevented LeBron from doing a hell of a lot. A Wizards/Cavs match up in the first round would be nice.

Between Raptors fans and Sixers fans, I say we leave the 5 seed to Washington, unless you wanna get smashed by LeBron in the first round :wink:

However, I believe that the battle between us will be for the 6 seed. I don't know about you guys, but the Raptors would much rather face the Magic in a 7 game series than the Cavs. We just match up well. The 7 seed faces up against the Pistons. I know for a fact that the Raptors would get destroyed in that series, and you guys probably would too.

Then again, you did beat them earlier this month :lol: If you guys do end up placing 7th, could you take them out for us, and for the good of the Eastern Conference? Please? :clap:
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Post#217 » by SendEm » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:52 am

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:Sendem: You're getting to the point where I just CANNOT stand you anymore. Ricky was funny, you're just a pain in the...I can't say it because it's flaming. Iguodala's done a nice job, 20+ PPG against one of the better defensive teams in the league. He's averaging over 19 a game. Are there flaws? Certainly. I would love for Iguodala to revert back to his role of being a playmaker. I would love for Iggy to be able to shoot consistantly from the field. I don't mind if Iggy's not able to blow by defenders. If he can create for himself and for his team mates which he has shown he can throughout his entire NBA career. Then he's worth a high level contract.


I like Iggy as a player, but I like the Sixers more. Iggy is not worth the perennial all star money he turned down and certainly not the money that he is seeking...For all of you stat geeks out there that can produce obscure statistical categories that seemingly were created last week, why can't any of you produce a pay rate that Iguodala is worth with "comps"? You know why, because doing so would prove me RIGHT.
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Post#218 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:53 am

SendEm wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



The point that I was making is that Iguodala IS NOT worth as much money as RJ. Reread how I introduced the original post. RJ going into his free agency dislayed more skill than Iggy and even still to this very day.
I have seen RJ have 40 point games and I believe that he has scored 50 a time or two so the "isolation play shooting percentage" stat is VERY misleading especially considering what a mess of a franchise NJ has been the last couple of seasons. Great players should perform through that mess, but RJ isn't a great player nor is Iggy...


You can have 40 or 50 pt games, but it doesn't matter if you don't get the win. Allen Iverson has had, how many 40 or 50 pt games and how many of which has he actually won? This isn't discrediting him, nor is this saying he's a bad team mate. I actually think he's one of the better guards in the NBA to play with. I'm just saying that it takes a TEAM GAME to win. And Iguodala is far superior to Jefferson.
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Post#219 » by SendEm » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:56 am

Dedicated_76ers_fan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



You can have 40 or 50 pt games, but it doesn't matter if you don't get the win. Allen Iverson has had, how many 40 or 50 pt games and how many of which has he actually won? This isn't discrediting him, nor is this saying he's a bad team mate. I actually think he's one of the better guards in the NBA to play with. I'm just saying that it takes a TEAM GAME to win. And Iguodala is far superior to Jefferson.


I don't know what universe you exist in but Iggy both plays for a losing team AND doesn't have any 40/50 point games. *shrugs*
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Post#220 » by Dedicated_76ers_fan » Sun Mar 16, 2008 3:02 am

That losing team is slowly crawling to .500 which is a place NONE of us thought they'd reach. This team is slowly evolving and so is Iguodala. Did you notice at the end of the game how he went and complimented Lou Will after Will made the near costly turnover? He's starting to remember who he is and not have to carry all that burden. The team is FINALLY, finally starting to find an identity and winning games that none of us would've said that they'd win.

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