Nerlens Noel Thread

[Mik317]

His hands are basura..there is no getting around it.

More than anything that is the scariest flaw he has because..as an expert in having god awful hands (although my are more of the Kwame Brown baby hands variety)...that's not exactly something you can fix.

I just think the whole post him up thing is going against his strengths at the moment...he should be a glorifed slasher and pick and pop/roll guy and nothing else.

[roma258]

Noel will be fine. Repeat after me, Noel will be fine. He'll look much better with a competent offense around him. Needs to score of dump-offs, rebounds, fast breaks, lobs. Giving him the ball on the block or top of the key and expecting him to create offense is recipe for failure.

Agree that there's no question he'll thrive in a lineup with more offensive focal points.

The concern I think a lot of people have (including myself) is that he routinely gets at least a couple of dump-off, fast break, put-back, or lob opportunities per game and so far through 20 games the majority of them have literally fallen right through his hands.

I think that some of that is the lob passes he's gotten have been pretty terrible, part of that is just adjusting to NBA speed, part of it the physicality of the NBA....and yeah his hands are less than great. I just don't think his hands are as bad as people make it out.

[FreesFro]

Noel will be fine. Repeat after me, Noel will be fine. He'll look much better with a competent offense around him. Needs to score of dump-offs, rebounds, fast breaks, lobs. Giving him the ball on the block or top of the key and expecting him to create offense is recipe for failure.

Agree that there's no question he'll thrive in a lineup with more offensive focal points.

The concern I think a lot of people have (including myself) is that he routinely gets at least a couple of dump-off, fast break, put-back, or lob opportunities per game and so far through 20 games the majority of them have literally fallen right through his hands.

More hyperbole.

[FreesFro]

I think it's more laughable that he's getting out rebounded by his PG.

KG, lol. KG outplayed Noel the other night and he's 108 years old with 90 years in the NBA. Dudes getting ready for his pension and Social Security. I like how fans mention Ben Wallace, Noel would have to suddenly more than double his current rebounding output to match Wallace.

10 ppg shouldn't be to much to ask for Noel and I think he can do that eventually when Embiid gets there, especially when he starts putting on some weight, that will help him more than anything else. KG, lol.

Btw, should we go back to the beginning of this thread to see some predictions? I just want a dunk a quarter.

Noel leads all rookies in rebounds so our PG is is outrebounding all rookies and a ton of other good players who are bigger than him.

So your shocked a raw rookie who has played like 45 games in the last 3 years got outplayed by a 20 year vet? Ok.

And Ben Wallace? When Ben Wallace was Nerlens age he was a junior at a Division II school. Ben Wallace didn't become Ben Wallace until he was at least 26 years old. He bounced around to a few teams before that. And for how god awful you all think Nerlens is on offense he is averaging more PPG this year than Wallace did his whole career.

Yes, Nerlens can carve out a nice career in the NBA. He's never going to be the 1st, 2nd or even 3rd option on offense. Those of you who expected that, that's on you. The similarities to KG are his athleticism for his size, not his offensive skill set. Be real here. He's going to be a very unique player in 4 years or so. He's raw as hell. I think he will be a double double guy in time. I think he'll average close to 3 blocks per game in time. He'll get a bunch of steals. He'll intimidate at the rim. So he'll miss a pass once in awhile. Get over it.

[Ericb5]

I forget what I predicted Noel would average this year, but my memory was that it was 10 pts, 8 rbs, and 2 blks.

So far he has been under that pace and is more raw than I realized, but other than that, in my mind, he still is the same excellent prospect.

The game is still too fast and too physical for him. He needs to keep plugging away and learning everyday.

I think he is going to be fine in the end. I want him to stay healthy and improve month to month. Things will change when he plays with Embiid.


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[AAKing23]

I think it's more laughable that he's getting out rebounded by his PG.

KG, lol. KG outplayed Noel the other night and he's 108 years old with 90 years in the NBA. Dudes getting ready for his pension and Social Security. I like how fans mention Ben Wallace, Noel would have to suddenly more than double his current rebounding output to match Wallace.

10 ppg shouldn't be to much to ask for Noel and I think he can do that eventually when Embiid gets there, especially when he starts putting on some weight, that will help him more than anything else. KG, lol.

Btw, should we go back to the beginning of this thread to see some predictions? I just want a dunk a quarter.

Noel leads all rookies in rebounds so our PG is is outrebounding all rookies and a ton of other good players who are bigger than him.

So your shocked a raw rookie who has played like 45 games in the last 3 years got outplayed by a 20 year vet? Ok.

And Ben Wallace? When Ben Wallace was Nerlens age he was a junior at a Division II school. Ben Wallace didn't become Ben Wallace until he was at least 26 years old. He bounced around to a few teams before that. And for how god awful you all think Nerlens is on offense he is averaging more PPG this year than Wallace did his whole career.

Yes, Nerlens can carve out a nice career in the NBA. He's never going to be the 1st, 2nd or even 3rd option on offense. Those of you who expected that, that's on you. The similarities to KG are his athleticism for his size, not his offensive skill set. Be real here. He's going to be a very unique player in 4 years or so. He's raw as hell. I think he will be a double double guy in time. I think he'll average close to 3 blocks per game in time. He'll get a bunch of steals. He'll intimidate at the rim. So he'll miss a pass once in awhile. Get over it.

He said that as if MCW is an average rebounder, MCW is also outrebounding the likes of Lebron, Hibbert and even Blake Griffin.

[MRxBLACK]

Tonight:

19 points
8 rebounds
4 assists
3 steals
2 blocks

[James40]

I think it's more laughable that he's getting out rebounded by his PG.

KG, lol. KG outplayed Noel the other night and he's 108 years old with 90 years in the NBA. Dudes getting ready for his pension and Social Security. I like how fans mention Ben Wallace, Noel would have to suddenly more than double his current rebounding output to match Wallace.

10 ppg shouldn't be to much to ask for Noel and I think he can do that eventually when Embiid gets there, especially when he starts putting on some weight, that will help him more than anything else. KG, lol.

Btw, should we go back to the beginning of this thread to see some predictions? I just want a dunk a quarter.

Noel leads all rookies in rebounds so our PG is is outrebounding all rookies and a ton of other good players who are bigger than him.

So your shocked a raw rookie who has played like 45 games in the last 3 years got outplayed by a 20 year vet? Ok.

And Ben Wallace? When Ben Wallace was Nerlens age he was a junior at a Division II school. Ben Wallace didn't become Ben Wallace until he was at least 26 years old. He bounced around to a few teams before that. And for how god awful you all think Nerlens is on offense he is averaging more PPG this year than Wallace did his whole career.

Yes, Nerlens can carve out a nice career in the NBA. He's never going to be the 1st, 2nd or even 3rd option on offense. Those of you who expected that, that's on you. The similarities to KG are his athleticism for his size, not his offensive skill set. Be real here. He's going to be a very unique player in 4 years or so. He's raw as hell. I think he will be a double double guy in time. I think he'll average close to 3 blocks per game in time. He'll get a bunch of steals. He'll intimidate at the rim. So he'll miss a pass once in awhile. Get over it.

He said that as if MCW is an average rebounder, MCW is also outrebounding the likes of Lebron, Hibbert and even Blake Griffin.

At the beginning of this tread you said Noel would average 12-8-2

[XDevilBoiX]

Tonight:

19 points
8 rebounds
4 assists
3 steals
2 blocks

He was the only one still playing while the team mailed it in. Could not have played any better. Made 75% of his shots too.

[FreesFro]

Well look at that. And a game he started at C. I think this "he can't play C" is blown way out of proportion. Sure, ideally he is a PF, but there are times he'll have to play C and will be able to do it. It's all a moot point because Embiid is our C. Just find it laughable that certain posters with their anti-Nerlens agenda have to reiterate their thoughts he is awful when he has to play C. His first game at C was when he started against the Rockets and Dwight. I thought he played well that night, no? Go back and watch again.

@realgm #NBA Mon. Efficiency:
Kevin Love: 30.9
LeBron James: 27.5
Kelly Olynyk: 24.4
Nerlens Noel: 20.4
Lillard: 20.0
Boxes: http://bit.ly/1ACftGP

[Negrodamus]

Well look at that. And a game he started at C. I think this "he can't play C" is blown way out of proportion. Sure, ideally he is a PF, but there are times he'll have to play C and will be able to do it. It's all a moot point because Embiid is our C. Just find it laughable that certain posters with their anti-Nerlens agenda have to reiterate their thoughts he is awful when he has to play C. His first game at C was when he started against the Rockets and Dwight. I thought he played well that night, no? Go back and watch again.

@realgm #NBA Mon. Efficiency:
Kevin Love: 30.9
LeBron James: 27.5
Kelly Olynyk: 24.4
Nerlens Noel: 20.4
Lillard: 20.0
Boxes: http://bit.ly/1ACftGP

I think it's more the matchups that Noel goes up against on a night to night basis rather than the label of center that dictates his play. Sullinger, Zeller and Olynyk don't really strike me as massive challenges for Noel (although Olynyk put up 30 last night)

[42uptop]

No need to overreact. Noel is in a rookie slump and he will get out of it. I'll predict that he rebounds (literally) tonight against Boston's soft frontcourt.

I'm not sure how you can predict that Noel will thrive against a "soft frontcourt." In case you haven't noticed, Noel is arguably the easiest box-out in the league. Guys like Sullinger, Bass, and even Olynik should have no problem winning the battle of the boards against Nerlens.

Turns out I was right. And if you are wondering how I made that prediction, it's not because I'm some John Hollinger basketball expert. It's because I don't let my agenda get in the way of facts.

There was plenty of evidence that Noel could match up well against Boston. Most notably the first matchup, where Noel played well for a rookie.

[FreesFro]

Well look at that. And a game he started at C. I think this "he can't play C" is blown way out of proportion. Sure, ideally he is a PF, but there are times he'll have to play C and will be able to do it. It's all a moot point because Embiid is our C. Just find it laughable that certain posters with their anti-Nerlens agenda have to reiterate their thoughts he is awfulw when he has to play C. His first game at C was when he started against the Rockets and Dwight. I thought he played well that night, no? Go back and watch again.

@realgm #NBA Mon. Efficiency:
Kevin Love: 30.9
LeBron James: 27.5
Kelly Olynyk: 24.4
Nerlens Noel: 20.4
Lillard: 20.0
Boxes: http://bit.ly/1ACftGP

I think it's more the matchups that Noel goes up against on a night to night basis rather than the label of center that dictates his play. Sullinger, Zeller and Olynyk don't really strike me as massive challenges for Noel (although Olynyk put up 30 last night)

Exactly. That's why saying he can't play center doesn't make sense. Big centers like Ewing, Robinson, Olajuwon are not in the league anymore. He played fine against Dwight. There are some big, strong PF's he will struggle with, too. This label of C and PF and that his has no business playing C is crap. I'm not saying he is a C and that we need him to play C moving forward, just saying he can if needed depending on match ups and he can hold his own.

[Mik317]

maybe people need to stop making hot takes after every game that pushes your agenda?

Noel is a rookie...a raw one at that. He will have games where he looks like trash...it **** happens.

People need to stop be so reactionary to everything and give things time to breathe.

[ankle420breaker]

No need to overreact. Noel is in a rookie slump and he will get out of it. I'll predict that he rebounds (literally) tonight against Boston's soft frontcourt.

I'm not sure how you can predict that Noel will thrive against a "soft frontcourt." In case you haven't noticed, Noel is arguably the easiest box-out in the league. Guys like Sullinger, Bass, and even Olynik should have no problem winning the battle of the boards against Nerlens.

Turns out I was right. And if you are wondering how I made that prediction, it's not because I'm some John Hollinger basketball expert. It's because I don't let my agenda get in the way of facts.

There was plenty of evidence that Noel could match up well against Boston. Most notably the first matchup, where Noel played well for a rookie.

Relax. Nothing I posted is agenda driven whatsoever. Its getting a little ridiculous that some of you take it so personally when others don't share the exact same viewpoints you have towards Noel.

[ryst]

so...can he catch the ball?

I want to play catch with him in the back yard

[Mik317]

so...can he catch the ball?

I want to play catch with him in the back yard

I like to think a lot of his awful handedness has to do with him playing too damn fast and the yoloswag passes guys throw at his knees.

I say I like to think this because there is no way his awful hands were kept a secret this long lol.

[KramerDSP]

Check out Nerlens Noel's DraftExpress video and go to the part where they talk about his hands of stone. When you see it, you'll know that there were concerns about his hands before he was drafted.

[Mik317]

Check out Nerlens Noel's DraftExpress video and go to the part where they talk about his hands of stone. When you see it, you'll know that there were concerns about his hands before he was drafted.

well ****.

[StunnaStan]

Noels offense is way better than i expected, just needs to get stronger, kid gonna be a problem once that jumper becomes a true staple of his offense in a cpl yrs