2016 NBA Draft/College Basketball Thread

[76ciology]

Can anyone tell me why guys are sleeping over next year's draft class? I do think Skal, Simmons and Ingram has the chance to be superstars, all three of them can probably go no.1 this year. Jaylen, Bender and Jamal Murray are also potential star caliber guys, all three of them can go no.3 this year. It's not only top heavy but also pretty deep for the top 5 picks.

[MRxBLACK]

Can anyone tell me why guys are sleeping over next year's draft class? I do think Skal, Simmons and Ingram has the chance to be superstars, all three of them can probably go no.1 this year. Jaylen, Bender and Jamal Murray are also potential star caliber guys, all three of them can go no.3 this year. It's not only top heavy but also pretty deep for the top 5 picks.

Not sure. Looks like a strong class. A lot of talented players stayed in college, the top incoming freshman are studs, and there's a strong Euro in Bender. Even Givony from DX is sleeping on it.

[jpatrick]

At the recent LSU combine, Simmons numbers were eye-popping (even if you drop them a little bit due to the homer-nature of the event). He measured 6-10 (in shoes) / 240lbs, with a 7'0.25 wingspan and a 9'0.25 standing reach. At that size he registered a 41.5 max vert, did 13 reps, a lane agility of 11.06 and 3/4 court sprint of 2.9. Even lowering all these numbers a little bit to make them slightly less home field advantage-y, they're nothing short of sensational.

I can't take the LSU numbers seriously. Not only did Simmons' standing reach jump up 5 inches from earlier in the year, but over half the LSU team registered verticals over 40 inches (specifically 8 of 12 had verticals of 39 and up). You just have to look back at the combine history to see that this is basically impossible unless the LSU team is the most athletic in history. Additionally, the numbers for several other tests skewed toward elite by combine history for most of the team.

That said, I can't wait to watch Simmons play. With his size, handle, and BBIQ, he's a different kind of player than we've seen enter the NBA in awhile. As has been said earlier in the thread, I think the top 6 has potential to be very good.

[ImChillin01]

Can anyone tell me why guys are sleeping over next year's draft class? I do think Skal, Simmons and Ingram has the chance to be superstars, all three of them can probably go no.1 this year. Jaylen, Bender and Jamal Murray are also potential star caliber guys, all three of them can go no.3 this year. It's not only top heavy but also pretty deep for the top 5 picks.

Not sure. Looks like a strong class. A lot of talented players stayed in college, the top incoming freshman are studs, and there's a strong Euro in Bender. Even Givony from DX is sleeping on it.

Yeah I dont get how people are calling this a weak class. This class is strong with wings, which is perfect for 76ers.

[Kolkmania]

I am intrigued by the skill set of Simmons in combination with his length. But is it translatable to the NBA? He's not a tremendous athlete and certainly not capable to defend quick guards. Perhaps a point forward is his best position on offense, but that requires an offense built around him.

Developing a 3 pointer is crucial for him in my opinion. With his court vision, passing abilities and decision making he would thrive in an offense with ball movement like the Hawks or Spurs at the 4. But is a player that dependent of the offensive motion worth a top 3 pick? I am not sure.

Skal, Bender and Ingram is my projected top 3.

Please don't take this as a knock or anything like that, it isn't. You just said something that being perpetuated to the point where people believe it's becoming fact and that's the notion that Ben Simmons lacks elite athleticism. Simply not true, Simmons is a bigtime athlete. Maybe it's because he's more smooth than sudden and people mistake that as a knock on his athleticism.

At the recent LSU combine, Simmons numbers were eye-popping (even if you drop them a little bit due to the homer-nature of the event). He measured 6-10 (in shoes) / 240lbs, with a 7'0.25 wingspan and a 9'0.25 standing reach. At that size he registered a 41.5 max vert, did 13 reps, a lane agility of 11.06 and 3/4 court sprint of 2.9. Even lowering all these numbers a little bit to make them slightly less home field advantage-y, they're nothing short of sensational.

My only concern about Simmons is his jump shot. But I trust given his work ethic, he'll figure it out.

I'm fascinated by the possibility of playing Saric and Simmons together at forward next year with both of them being able to push the ball and initiate the offense on any given play.

If the tests tell that Simmons is an elite athlete, you are completely right to correct me. Although, the combine measurements and analysis at LSU are really weird. Or LSU collected the most athletic college team in the history of basketball or the verticals and sprint times are exaggerated. But the fact that everything he does is silky smooth, does make him feel less athletic than he might be. I still think that developing a 3-point (or even a steady midrange shot) is crucial for his future NBA career.

For the people that missed the results of the combine at LSU:
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/2015-LSU-Combine-Measurements-and-Analysis-5299/

[Kolkmania]

Can anyone tell me why guys are sleeping over next year's draft class? I do think Skal, Simmons and Ingram has the chance to be superstars, all three of them can probably go no.1 this year. Jaylen, Bender and Jamal Murray are also potential star caliber guys, all three of them can go no.3 this year. It's not only top heavy but also pretty deep for the top 5 picks.

If we take the 2016 mock draft of DraftExpress as reference, my sleeper would be Malik Pope, they have him as an early 2nd rounder. Injury prone, missed his high school senior year and played around 20 games last season, but extremely skilled and physically impressive.

[Wilfried]

Still like Kris Dunn

[Dell]

I also love Kris Dunn and would be thrilled with him if we miss out on Jamal Murray.

As for the LSU workout numbers, yeah they're obviously blown out of proportion and should be downgraded, but Simmons numbers, even downgraded some, are exceptional. I'm higher on him than I was anyone in the last 3 years with the possible exception of Embiid.

[HartfordWhalers]

Kris Dunn is a junior. That makes him 50 years too old for this core.

[jrue76er]

If the Sixers come out of the draft with Ben Simmons and one of (Murray, Dunn or Demetrius Jackson), I think the core of their team will be set. They can then fill out the rest with their other lower draft picks, sign vets, etc.

[Dell]

If the Sixers come out of the draft with Ben Simmons and one of (Murray, Dunn or Demetrius Jackson), I think the core of their team will be set. They can then fill out the rest with their other lower draft picks, sign vets, etc.

.

I think you're exactly right, the 2016 NBA Draft needs to be the last of the "finding core players" drafts. With our pick we'll be in position to add an impact wing (Simmons, Brown or Ingram) and then with the Lakers pick we'll be able to add our point guard of the future. Add in Saric and potentially Embiid and that's your core. After that. we move to the "making pieces fit" stage.

[AAKing23]

Definitely a Kris Dunn fan here, also like Isaiah Briscoe

[Ericb5]

Definitely a Kris Dunn fan here, also like Isaiah Briscoe

I have never seen either of these guys play, but from what I have read, they seem to be great prospects. We will obviously learn a lot more about them this year.

We definitely need a point guard on this team, but I don't want to reach for one in the draft. I would be completely fine with drafting wings and bigs exclusively with our picks if they are the BPA in every case, and then waiting for free agency or trades to get a point.

If you put an Andre Miller type free agent on a team with uber young and talented wings and bigs, then you can improve the team rapidly. I don't literally mean Andre Miller because he is too old, but I just mean a competent professional point guard. You don't need a star. You just need a true point guard that knows how to play the position.

Hopefully someone like Kris Dunn has the type of year that would justify taking him with the Lakers pick, but if he doesn't, then just take the BPA and move on.

[Unbreakable99]

I like Demetrius Jackson. I love having a taller PG but PG is the one position where I don't mind having a shorter player. Jackson is pretty dynamic and quick. I prefer that over size in many instances. Tony Parker and Ty Lawson are a few examples of shorter PGs who have excelled because of their quickness.

[SparksFly87]

Brandon Ingram should be our number 1 priority . This guy is deadly both catch and shoot and off the dribble. He is extremely long and has a very good handle already . He is so fluid at 6'9.5 that he could even be a potential nba shooting guard. He is a guy I would throw all the marbles at to acquire in this draft .

I like Jaylen Brown I see Jason Richardson prime. all star caliber wing.


Jamal Murray has some Brandon Roy .


not a ben simmons fan for this team.

[Dell]

Can anyone tell me why guys are sleeping over next year's draft class? I do think Skal, Simmons and Ingram has the chance to be superstars, all three of them can probably go no.1 this year. Jaylen, Bender and Jamal Murray are also potential star caliber guys, all three of them can go no.3 this year. It's not only top heavy but also pretty deep for the top 5 picks.

First of all, I love Ray Smith's game from Arizona. He was bigtime athlete before his injury who gets to the rim with ease and really defends people. Reports out of Arizona have all been glowing saying that he's really improved his handle and shooting. He'll be fun to watch and I wouldn't be surprised if we were talking about a lottery pick.

Tyler Dorsey at Oregon is another one. He absolutely blew up during the summer showing that he's one of the most dangerous shooters/scorers in the class. People are consistently surprised by how high-level an athlete he is. He's going to make a lot of noise for the Ducks.

If we're going deeper, I've talk about how much I like Isaac Humphries before and I stand firm on that. There's no way there are 48 better prospects in this class. No way.

Malik Newman is a player I'll be watching closesly, he's been one of the top players in this class forever and now he's being overlooked. If he proves he can play pg, his stock will soar into the top 5 or so.


If we're talking about RS-Freshman too, then two guys come immediately to mind...

JaQuan Lyle at Ohio State is a player I absolutely love. I see a lot of Tyreke Evans in his game. He's a big bully combo guard with strong handles who gets to the basket and create for others. He's as much of a point guard as D'Angelo Russell was (only kind of), so I could see him flying up draft boards.

Jonah Bolden from UCLA is the last player I'd want to talk about. I can't wait to see him play at UCLA this year. All the coaches have been raving about him. At 6-9 / 6-10 he can handle and shoot the ball like a guard. I think he's an NBA small forward and a guy who's a constant match-up nightmare.

[splendidham]

Can anyone tell me why guys are sleeping over next year's draft class? I do think Skal, Simmons and Ingram has the chance to be superstars, all three of them can probably go no.1 this year. Jaylen, Bender and Jamal Murray are also potential star caliber guys, all three of them can go no.3 this year. It's not only top heavy but also pretty deep for the top 5 picks.

First of all, I love Ray Smith's game from Arizona. He was bigtime athlete before his injury who gets to the rim with ease and really defends people. Reports out of Arizona have all been glowing saying that he's really improved his handle and shooting. He'll be fun to watch and I wouldn't be surprised if we were talking about a lottery pick.

Tyler Dorsey at Oregon is another one. He absolutely blew up during the summer showing that he's one of the most dangerous shooters/scorers in the class. People are consistently surprised by how high-level an athlete he is. He's going to make a lot of noise for the Ducks.

If we're going deeper, I've talk about how much I like Isaac Humphries before and I stand firm on that. There's no way there are 48 better prospects in this class. No way.

Malik Newman is a player I'll be watching closesly, he's been one of the top players in this class forever and now he's being overlooked. If he proves he can play pg, his stock will soar into the top 5 or so.


If we're talking about RS-Freshman too, then two guys come immediately to mind...

JaQuan Lyle at Ohio State is a player I absolutely love. I see a lot of Tyreke Evans in his game. He's a big bully combo guard with strong handles who gets to the basket and create for others. He's as much of a point guard as D'Angelo Russell was (only kind of), so I could see him flying up draft boards.

Jonah Bolden from UCLA is the last player I'd want to talk about. I can't wait to see him play at UCLA this year. All the coaches have been raving about him. At 6-9 / 6-10 he can handle and shoot the ball like a guard. I think he's an NBA small forward and a guy who's a constant match-up nightmare.

Sorry to intrude. Just a longtime lurker. Isaac Humphries will be too young to be drafted. He'll be with Kentucky for 2 years at least


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[Skates]

If the Sixers come out of the draft with Ben Simmons and one of (Murray, Dunn or Demetrius Jackson), I think the core of their team will be set. They can then fill out the rest with their other lower draft picks, sign vets, etc.

.

I think you're exactly right, the 2016 NBA Draft needs to be the last of the "finding core players" drafts. With our pick we'll be in position to add an impact wing (Simmons, Brown or Ingram) and then with the Lakers pick we'll be able to add our point guard of the future. Add in Saric and potentially Embiid and that's your core. After that. we move to the "making pieces fit" stage.

Actually, the Sixers could get some major impact players next summer and still be in li for a possible top of the draft pick the next year with some lottery luck, and, oh yeah, the Sacramento swap possibility that just keeps on giving

[Dell]

Sorry to intrude. Just a longtime lurker. Isaac Humphries will be too young to be drafted. He'll be with Kentucky for 2 years at least

Good call, yes he is. I pulled this from another board where I was posting about impact freshman and I forgot to pull Humphries. Thanks for the head's up.

[Sixerscan]

I am intrigued by the skill set of Simmons in combination with his length. But is it translatable to the NBA? He's not a tremendous athlete and certainly not capable to defend quick guards. Perhaps a point forward is his best position on offense, but that requires an offense built around him.

Developing a 3 pointer is crucial for him in my opinion. With his court vision, passing abilities and decision making he would thrive in an offense with ball movement like the Hawks or Spurs at the 4. But is a player that dependent of the offensive motion worth a top 3 pick? I am not sure.

Skal, Bender and Ingram is my projected top 3.

Please don't take this as a knock or anything like that, it isn't. You just said something that being perpetuated to the point where people believe it's becoming fact and that's the notion that Ben Simmons lacks elite athleticism. Simply not true, Simmons is a bigtime athlete. Maybe it's because he's more smooth than sudden and people mistake that as a knock on his athleticism.

At the recent LSU combine, Simmons numbers were eye-popping (even if you drop them a little bit due to the homer-nature of the event). He measured 6-10 (in shoes) / 240lbs, with a 7'0.25 wingspan and a 9'0.25 standing reach. At that size he registered a 41.5 max vert, did 13 reps, a lane agility of 11.06 and 3/4 court sprint of 2.9. Even lowering all these numbers a little bit to make them slightly less home field advantage-y, they're nothing short of sensational.

My only concern about Simmons is his jump shot. But I trust given his work ethic, he'll figure it out.

I'm fascinated by the possibility of playing Saric and Simmons together at forward next year with both of them being able to push the ball and initiate the offense on any given play.

That's a pretty short wingspan for that height... 7'.25" wing is solid but in no way elite for a 3, let alone a 4.

Either he has short arms or he was wearing platform shoes.