Where is Jahlil Okafor?

[spikeslovechild]

On top of that, Jahlil might be the worst screener I've ever seen.

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on top of that, there were at least two situations where he could have hat an easy bucket at the rim if he knew how to roll hard, but he just kind of floated around and let his defender catch up. you could see chacho getting angry at him.

In all fairness whats the point? It's TJ McConnell

Anyone see Biyombo this year? Remember when the so called experts here were saying winning basketball means trading away someone like Vucevic and signing Biyombo.

Yeah.

As far as Okafor goes to me he looks like he is still shaking off rust from that knee injury. Doesn't look anywhere near the kind of player on offense he was towards the end of last season.

[Sportfan73]

On top of that, Jahlil might be the worst screener I've ever seen.

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on top of that, there were at least two situations where he could have hat an easy bucket at the rim if he knew how to roll hard, but he just kind of floated around and let his defender catch up. you could see chacho getting angry at him.

In all fairness whats the point? It's TJ McConnell

Anyone see Biyombo this year? Remember when the so called experts here were saying winning basketball means trading away someone like Vucevic and signing Biyombo.

Yeah.

As far as Okafor goes to me he looks like he is still shaking off rust from that knee injury. Doesn't look anywhere near the kind of player on offense he was towards the end of last season.

Having no training camp seems to have hit him hard.

[Negrodamus]

I'm quickly moving into the camp of giving Nerlens a massive contract and sending Okafor out for a young defensive guard (Delon Wright?). I've decided that we have Okafor's offense already in Embiid and he provides zero on the defensive end, which is honestly much more important.

As Carmelo mentioned the other day, the NBA style of offense is through PnR. Nerlens is one of the best big man defenders of PnR while being a phenomenal shot blocker. I know everyone will hate on him for last year, but you cannot deny that he's a great defender. And when there are games, like last night, where the team's two best players are big men, a line up with Embiid and Noel works (at the very least on the defensive end). If there's one thing that I've gathered from these first 6 games, it's that Embiid can play the 'stretch 4' on offense. It's obviously not ideal, but I'm more interested in stopping their offense than running a mediocre offense that sacrifices the defense all together. I think the two can coexist and I'm more inclined to watch players that give a **** on defense.

[Ericb5]

I'm quickly moving into the camp of giving Nerlens a massive contract and sending Okafor out for a young defensive guard (Delon Wright?). I've decided that we have Okafor's offense already in Embiid and he provides zero on the defensive end, which is honestly much more important.

As Carmelo mentioned the other day, the NBA style of offense is through PnR. Nerlens is one of the best big man defenders of PnR while being a phenomenal shot blocker. I know everyone will hate on him for last year, but you cannot deny that he's a great defender. And when there are games, like last night, where the team's two best players are big men, a line up with Embiid and Noel works (at the very least on the defensive end). If there's one thing that I've gathered from these first 6 games, it's that Embiid can play the 'stretch 4' on offense. It's obviously not ideal, but I'm more interested in stopping their offense than running a mediocre offense that sacrifices the defense all together. I think the two can coexist and I'm more inclined to watch players that give a **** on defense.

I'm fine with trading Okafor and keeping Noel as long as we get value for Okafor. I sure as hell wouldn't trade him for Delon Wright.

The clock is ticking on Noel. It isn't ticking on Okafor yet.


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[SelfishPlayer]

What's preventing a 4/5 pick and roll with Okafor and Embiid?

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Okafor and Embiid need to be on the floor at the same time. Brett Brown is doing everything that he can to destroy Okafor's confidence. Okafor should NEVER sit the bench for a franchise this terrible.

[eagereyez]

[Negrodamus]

I'm quickly moving into the camp of giving Nerlens a massive contract and sending Okafor out for a young defensive guard (Delon Wright?). I've decided that we have Okafor's offense already in Embiid and he provides zero on the defensive end, which is honestly much more important.

As Carmelo mentioned the other day, the NBA style of offense is through PnR. Nerlens is one of the best big man defenders of PnR while being a phenomenal shot blocker. I know everyone will hate on him for last year, but you cannot deny that he's a great defender. And when there are games, like last night, where the team's two best players are big men, a line up with Embiid and Noel works (at the very least on the defensive end). If there's one thing that I've gathered from these first 6 games, it's that Embiid can play the 'stretch 4' on offense. It's obviously not ideal, but I'm more interested in stopping their offense than running a mediocre offense that sacrifices the defense all together. I think the two can coexist and I'm more inclined to watch players that give a **** on defense.

I'm fine with trading Okafor and keeping Noel as long as we get value for Okafor. I sure as hell wouldn't trade him for Delon Wright.

The clock is ticking on Noel. It isn't ticking on Okafor yet.


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I actually think the clock is definitely ticking on the perceived value of Okafor. We're not going to get much for him when we're doing this game all over again come time for his new contract. We should move on while his offensive arsenal is alluring.

I'd take Wright and a first for him. I think that's generous compared to what teams will be offering in a year.

[rzzzzz]

What's preventing a 4/5 pick and roll with Okafor and Embiid?

that's what they want to know. (at 0-6, it's mule-headed stubborn to deny them the shared court time they both crave.)

[Eyeamok]

Do you think when Jah watches his defensive laps it registers to him or is it like the person we all work with who is a screw up but just does not acknowledge it no matter how many times it is pointed out to them?

Also the coaching staff can't handle this players they are in the military. These players are handled with kid gloves so a stronger message "your messing up{!" Or you suck on defense! ! us bit allowed.

[CoreyGallagher]

Do you think when Jah watches his defensive laps it registers to him or is it like the person we all work with who is a screw up but just does not acknowledge it no matter how many times it is pointed out to them?

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[Ericb5]

Do you think when Jah watches his defensive laps it registers to him or is it like the person we all work with who is a screw up but just does not acknowledge it no matter how many times it is pointed out to them?

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That what I have always said about him defensively. He doesn't' know how to play team defense. It isn't that he can't. It's that he is confused, and that seems like something that can be improved with coaching, at least to a certain extent.


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[spikeslovechild]

I'm quickly moving into the camp of giving Nerlens a massive contract and sending Okafor out for a young defensive guard (Delon Wright?). I've decided that we have Okafor's offense already in Embiid and he provides zero on the defensive end, which is honestly much more important.

As Carmelo mentioned the other day, the NBA style of offense is through PnR. Nerlens is one of the best big man defenders of PnR while being a phenomenal shot blocker. I know everyone will hate on him for last year, but you cannot deny that he's a great defender. And when there are games, like last night, where the team's two best players are big men, a line up with Embiid and Noel works (at the very least on the defensive end). If there's one thing that I've gathered from these first 6 games, it's that Embiid can play the 'stretch 4' on offense. It's obviously not ideal, but I'm more interested in stopping their offense than running a mediocre offense that sacrifices the defense all together. I think the two can coexist and I'm more inclined to watch players that give a **** on defense.

I'm fine with trading Okafor and keeping Noel as long as we get value for Okafor. I sure as hell wouldn't trade him for Delon Wright.

The clock is ticking on Noel. It isn't ticking on Okafor yet.


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I'm not fine with keeping Noel. Makes zero sense. If we can get the right deal for Okafor too fine move him but Noel has no future here.

More to the point he doesn't want to be here. He wants to be a starter that is not happening with Embiid. If he was wade or some elite talent I'd say sure max his ass and deal with the bitchin but he ain't worth the max and quite frankly he aint worth the bitching either. It's time. Lets just move on already.

[TTP]

That what I have always said about him defensively. He doesn't' know how to play team defense. It isn't that he can't. It's that he is confused, and that seems like something that can be improved with coaching, at least to a certain extent.


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I'd buy this a lot more if he were giving too much effort, jumping too frequently for blocks, being over aggressive like how Holmes is. When he goes into statue mode, looks sluggish, doesn't jump or close out hard, it starts looking a lot more like he can't.

[TTP]

I'm not fine with keeping Noel. Makes zero sense. If we can get the right deal for Okafor too fine move him but Noel has no future here.

More to the point he doesn't want to be here. He wants to be a starter that is not happening with Embiid. If he was wade or some elite talent I'd say sure max his ass and deal with the bitchin but he ain't worth the max and quite frankly he aint worth the bitching either. It's time. Lets just move on already.

Much of what you posted here is speculation that gets regurgitated and presented as fact. I'm sure Okafor wants to be starter too. What hard evidence do we have that Noel wants to be starter more than Okafor does? What bitching? He made one comment about not understanding going into the season with 3 centers and it was a very legitimate concern.

We also don't know that Nerlens and Embiid can't play together together. It might be unlikely, but I certainly want to know for sure before moving Nerlens. I would have been more skeptical before we knew how real Embiid's range was. If we found out that Nerlens/Embiid are very capable of playing minutes together, it would seem pretty ideal to pay Nerlens (probably something like 4-88 next year), start both, and then make sure one of them is always on the floor.

[Kolkmania]

That what I have always said about him defensively. He doesn't' know how to play team defense. It isn't that he can't. It's that he is confused, and that seems like something that can be improved with coaching, at least to a certain extent.


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I'd buy this a lot more if he were giving too much effort, jumping too frequently for blocks, being over aggressive like how Holmes is. When he goes into statue mode, looks sluggish, doesn't jump or close out hard, it starts looking a lot more like he can't.

That differs for every person and this is unfair to Okafor. The kid was his entire life an offensive force and coaches probably let him hang around the basket to conserve his energy and keep him out of foul trouble, this even seemed the case at Duke. Now he's having an extremely hard time to not only adjust to the NBA pace, but also catching up on defensive fundamentals.

It's much easier sitting at your couch watching tv than standing in the middle of the paint and elite athletes running around you. This probably causes mild brain meltdowns at times and the logical thing to do is relapse to his old habits.

From what I'm seeing he's a willing kid but one with underdeveloped defensive fundamentals. It's going to be a long process to erase those habits, create new ones and play team basketball on the offensive end as well. The coaching staff should take one step at the time and start with the most important one, defensive fundamentals.

For us it's the case of remaining patient if the team is willing to invest in Okafor. He will alternate between decent games from a defensive standpoint (Cleveland) to very, very poor ones (Utah), but we should see some development in the long run. Personally I'm not a fan of Okafor and would rather invest in somebody else, but I'm not going to rebel at every single topic when he makes a single defensive mistake. I think none of us should.

[LloydFree]

I'm quickly moving into the camp of giving Nerlens a massive contract and sending Okafor out for a young defensive guard (Delon Wright?). I've decided that we have Okafor's offense already in Embiid and he provides zero on the defensive end, which is honestly much more important.

As Carmelo mentioned the other day, the NBA style of offense is through PnR. Nerlens is one of the best big man defenders of PnR while being a phenomenal shot blocker. I know everyone will hate on him for last year, but you cannot deny that he's a great defender. And when there are games, like last night, where the team's two best players are big men, a line up with Embiid and Noel works (at the very least on the defensive end). If there's one thing that I've gathered from these first 6 games, it's that Embiid can play the 'stretch 4' on offense. It's obviously not ideal, but I'm more interested in stopping their offense than running a mediocre offense that sacrifices the defense all together. I think the two can coexist and I'm more inclined to watch players that give a **** on defense.

I'm fine with trading Okafor and keeping Noel as long as we get value for Okafor. I sure as hell wouldn't trade him for Delon Wright.

The clock is ticking on Noel. It isn't ticking on Okafor yet.

I actually think the clock is definitely ticking on the perceived value of Okafor. We're not going to get much for him when we're doing this game all over again come time for his new contract. We should move on while his offensive arsenal is alluring.

I'd take Wright and a first for him. I think that's generous compared to what teams will be offering in a year.

Next year, the 76er wiill be getting what they offered Milwaukee for Greg Monroe this past off-season... Just got to hope that GMs like Demps or Grunfeld are still employed if the 76ers figure out what they need to do.

[LloydFree]

For those who want to know why the coach is hesitant to play Okafor at PF. Exhibit A:

[Foshan]

For those who want to know why the coach is hesitant to play Okafor at PF. Exhibit A:

the second vine didn't load... but doesn't the first just show he's bad at D? so if i have to try to hide a bad defender in the line up, is it easier to hide him at the 4 or 5? i think this just proves that he should be a 4. he could be a total zero on D and have Embiid hanging out behind him grabbing rebounds and blocking shots.

And if Noel ever decides to play bball again, he anchors the second unit with Saric at the 4 that just runs non-stop up and down the floor. I think that actually maximizes each guys potential in our given line up.

Long term I think Noel/Okafor/Saric could all end up moved.

[Kolkmania]

For those who want to know why the coach is hesitant to play Okafor at PF. Exhibit A:

Huh?
He did a respectable job at protecting the rim, but Hood managed to score nonetheless. Could have done better, but this wasn't that bad right?
He's been disastrous at defending the P&R, but the second vine wasn't entirely his fault. He sagged of (like he always does, it's the Sixers game plan for him) and contained the drive towards the rim. Covington foolishly tried to switch back with Trey Lyles miles away from Okafor? In my opinion this one is on Covington.

Also, both vines have Okafor playing the 5. Defending the rim would release him of the rim protecting duty, he will be abused on the P&R playing both the 4 and 5.

[LloydFree]

For those who want to know why the coach is hesitant to play Okafor at PF. Exhibit A:

He did a respectable job at protecting the rim, but Hood managed to score nonetheless...


In my opinion this one is on Covington...