Official Brett Brown thread

[TTP]

Pau Gasol 7'0" 250 sometimes a PF, sometimes a center depending on what the team needed entering the season or what they want in game from moment to moment. NBA champion...

Tim Duncan 7'00" 250 champion...

LaMarcus Aldridge 6'11" 260...

Zach Randolph 6'9" 260 PF that has experienced deep playoff runs on a perennial playoff team.

Empirical data says that big power forwards can be used successfully in the NBA...

You're attacking a strawman argument. The reason that he can't play PF is not because he's too big. It's because he can't defend the position, can't space, can't set screens, and doesn't look to be a good passer.

Okafor doesn't play anything like those guys.

Duncan is one of the best defensive bigs of our generation. He was also great within the Spurs offense of doing the things that create space and separation for others.

Pau was a great defender, a great passer for a big, and a much better shooter than Okafor is.

Aldridge and Randolph are significantly better shooters than Okafor is. They're also significantly better defenders and probably both better passers. Neither of them has won anything yet though. Aldridge has never made it past the second round and Randolph has been on treadmill teams his whole career, making the conference finals once where they got swept and were never really championship contenders.

Again I'll state - the argument against him succeeding at a smaller position is not because he's too big, but because he's already been horrible at defending his natural position (he was literally last in DRPM for Centers last season). He was too slow to defend bigger guys - how is he going to defend faster guys in a role he's even less familiar with? He was 58th of 61 in ORPM for Centers as well, so it's not like you can even point to his offensive game and say it will make up for his defensive shortcomings. At least Enes Kanter (who was unplayable vs Golden State in the WCF) made up for being 60th out 61 for Centers in DRPM by being 3rd of 61 for Centers in ORPM.

[Sixerscan]

I said he would have been the heaviest guy in the league 40 years ago.

Today, he's still one of the heaviest guys, but there are other obvious reasons why he's a center today. Not getting into them again.

[Kolkmania]

I think last game was another example of horrible late game management of Brett Brown. He played nearly the entire quarter without a capable shot creator. For almost ten minutes every offensive possession went like this:

-TJ bringing the ball up
-TJ dribbles a couple of seconds
-TJ passes the ball to Henderson/Saric/Ilyasova
-One of those guys stand still with the ball for a few seconds and then decide to give it back to TJ
-TJ calls a screen and slowly jogs around it
-TJ passes the ball again to one of the mentioned guys
-ISO play with 4/5 seconds left resutling in a tough contested shot 15+ ft from the basket

Brett Brown is acting like McConnell is Chris Paul on the defensive end, while Stauskas had the game of his life and should have gotten some minutes on the floor in the 4th quarter. If not Stauskas, Sergio should have had some. Brett Brown was bailed out by a Holmes three in the corner and he said afterwards that the guys learned how to close a game.

[CoreyGallagher]

Probably didn't want to bring Stauskas back unless he had to due to him tweaking his ankle.

[Kolkmania]

Probably didn't want to bring Stauskas back unless he had to due to him tweaking his ankle.

Could be, but he did sub Stauskas back in for some crucial defensive possessions. If he didn't trust his ankle than this would be a weird move. Nevertheless, Rodriguez should have had some minutes then.

[CoreyGallagher]

I'm sure he trusted it, indications were that it wasn't bad, was just a matter of preferring not to unless need be imo. Agree about Rodriguez, actually commented on that in the game thread at the time.

[LloydFree]

I'm glad to see Brett Brown get a few wins under his belt. I'm hoping he doesn't get fired. I'd hate for the guy to spend this much time as a coach wasting away, while we were going trying to lose, then get fired just as the team got a few pieces that could get some wins.

That said, once Bayless comes back, I hope Colangelo deactivates/cuts TJ McConnell. He has to save Brett Brown from himself and his bizarre love affair with over-playing McConnell.

[Sixersftw]

I'm glad to see Brett Brown get a few wins under his belt. I'm hoping he doesn't get fired. I'd hate for the guy to spend this much time as a coach wasting away, while we were going trying to lose, then get fired just as the team got a few pieces that could get some wins.

That said, once Bayless comes back, I hope Colangelo deactivates/cuts TJ McConnell. He has to save Brett Brown from himself and his bizarre love affair with over-playing McConnell.

Yeah, I'm very confused by the BB hate. He isn't perfect but more than anything else he gets sunk constantly by a couple players. Having to play TJ this much is brutal.

[Sixerscan]

I think last game was another example of horrible late game management of Brett Brown. He played nearly the entire quarter without a capable shot creator. For almost ten minutes every offensive possession went like this:

-TJ bringing the ball up
-TJ dribbles a couple of seconds
-TJ passes the ball to Henderson/Saric/Ilyasova
-One of those guys stand still with the ball for a few seconds and then decide to give it back to TJ
-TJ calls a screen and slowly jogs around it
-TJ passes the ball again to one of the mentioned guys
-ISO play with 4/5 seconds left resutling in a tough contested shot 15+ ft from the basket

Brett Brown is acting like McConnell is Chris Paul on the defensive end, while Stauskas had the game of his life and should have gotten some minutes on the floor in the 4th quarter. If not Stauskas, Sergio should have had some. Brett Brown was bailed out by a Holmes three in the corner and he said afterwards that the guys learned how to close a game.

I mean compared to Sergio TJ may as well be Chris Paul on the defensive end.

Stauskas won't be able to do the things he's been doing well lately if you make him play point guard, and we all know how quickly his confidence to go.

Ideally, Stauskas would nominally be the point guard but you had, say, a 6'10" power forward that you took with the #1 pick that can handle the ball a lot out there with him.

[HeJind]

I liked the McConnell move personally. Wall was absolutely killing us in the 4th, because we had to play Okafor at the 5 and then Ilyasova. If you don't have someone who can at least try to guard Wall he's getting free layups. I do think Sergio should've been in when Holmes came in though, since he can actually contest shots at the rim

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[Kolkmania]

I think last game was another example of horrible late game management of Brett Brown. He played nearly the entire quarter without a capable shot creator. For almost ten minutes every offensive possession went like this:

-TJ bringing the ball up
-TJ dribbles a couple of seconds
-TJ passes the ball to Henderson/Saric/Ilyasova
-One of those guys stand still with the ball for a few seconds and then decide to give it back to TJ
-TJ calls a screen and slowly jogs around it
-TJ passes the ball again to one of the mentioned guys
-ISO play with 4/5 seconds left resutling in a tough contested shot 15+ ft from the basket

Brett Brown is acting like McConnell is Chris Paul on the defensive end, while Stauskas had the game of his life and should have gotten some minutes on the floor in the 4th quarter. If not Stauskas, Sergio should have had some. Brett Brown was bailed out by a Holmes three in the corner and he said afterwards that the guys learned how to close a game.

I mean compared to Sergio TJ may as well be Chris Paul on the defensive end.

Stauskas won't be able to do the things he's been doing well lately if you make him play point guard, and we all know how quickly his confidence to go.

Ideally, Stauskas would nominally be the point guard but you had, say, a 6'10" power forward that you took with the #1 pick that can handle the ball a lot out there with him.

TJ might be 10 times the defender Sergio is, but it didn't prevent Wall from going anywhere. He drove to the rim whenever he wanted or assisted someone behind the arch. Wall scored like 14 points in the 4th quarter? All with McConnell guarding him. But still it's no excuse for the lack of a shot creator on all those plays. He could have even played Stauskas or Rodriguez at the SG position, defending Marcus Thornton.

I liked the McConnell move personally. Wall was absolutely killing us in the 4th, because we had to play Okafor at the 5 and then Ilyasova. If you don't have someone who can at least try to guard Wall he's getting free layups. I do think Sergio should've been in when Holmes came in though, since he can actually contest shots at the rim

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Okafor\Ilyasova and Saric\Ilyasova duo's were both on the court for ~1.5 minute while Wall was on the floor in the 4th. I agree that there needs to be a fine balance between offense and defense, so I get the idea of McConnell trying to disrupt Wall. However our lack of offense was hurting us just as much as Wall dominating on the offensive end.

[LloydFree]

I'm glad to see Brett Brown get a few wins under his belt. I'm hoping he doesn't get fired. I'd hate for the guy to spend this much time as a coach wasting away, while we were going trying to lose, then get fired just as the team got a few pieces that could get some wins.

That said, once Bayless comes back, I hope Colangelo deactivates/cuts TJ McConnell. He has to save Brett Brown from himself and his bizarre love affair with over-playing McConnell.

Yeah, I'm very confused by the BB hate. He isn't perfect but more than anything else he gets sunk constantly by a couple players. Having to play TJ this much is brutal.

Yeah, he has to play him right now, but seeing how he plays McConnell right now leads me to believe he's going to continue to use him even when Bayless gets back. Bayless isn't a good defender and he isn't really a PG. He's a Poor man's version of Brandon Knight. Knowing Brown, he'll still use McConnell for 20 minutes per game and play Bayless off the ball. I'm convinced the only way Brown won't play him is if he's deactivated.

[bedjawII]

I'm glad to see Brett Brown get a few wins under his belt. I'm hoping he doesn't get fired. I'd hate for the guy to spend this much time as a coach wasting away, while we were going trying to lose, then get fired just as the team got a few pieces that could get some wins.

That said, once Bayless comes back, I hope Colangelo deactivates/cuts TJ McConnell. He has to save Brett Brown from himself and his bizarre love affair with over-playing McConnell.

Yeah, I'm very confused by the BB hate. He isn't perfect but more than anything else he gets sunk constantly by a couple players. Having to play TJ this much is brutal.

I'm confused with any emotional reaction to BB. He hasn't had NBA talent to coach...period! For the last three years his teams have been severely outmanned in every game they have played. The fact that TJ is even on the team, let alone playing big minutes tells you all you need to know about the Sixers. I've aid it before BB may just be the luckiest coach ever. He may have gotten 3 years in the NBA when he is not an NBA coach, but it is impossible to make that determination now.

[Ericb5]

I'm glad to see Brett Brown get a few wins under his belt. I'm hoping he doesn't get fired. I'd hate for the guy to spend this much time as a coach wasting away, while we were going trying to lose, then get fired just as the team got a few pieces that could get some wins.

That said, once Bayless comes back, I hope Colangelo deactivates/cuts TJ McConnell. He has to save Brett Brown from himself and his bizarre love affair with over-playing McConnell.

I'm glad to hear you express that sentiment. The man deserves to coach a healthy Ben Simmons at the very least. I give him the entire season, and summer, and if we get off to a bad start again next year then you make a change.

The only reason that I would fire him this summer is if he has a poor season and a star coach is available.

My first cut would be Thompson, and my second one would be TJ.

I think that, at least until Simmons comes back, that we need TJ as a point guard. He is on thin ice though.

He also is the type of fringe NBA player that could probably have a large role overseas.


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[TTP]

I'm glad to hear you express that sentiment. The man deserves to coach a healthy Ben Simmons at the very least. I give him the entire season, and summer, and if we get off to a bad start again next year then you make a change.

The only reason that I would fire him this summer is if he has a poor season and a star coach is available.

My first cut would be Thompson, and my second one would be TJ.

I think that, at least until Simmons comes back, that we need TJ as a point guard. He is on thin ice though.

He also is the type of fringe NBA player that could probably have a large role overseas.


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Why would you cut Hollis? He's been good this year and has shown measured improvement. He's getting to the rim significantly more often than in the past, getting to the free throw line slightly more, and has significantly decreased his turnover rate (a rate that's declined each year since he entered the league). His 3 point shooting is slightly down (yet still significantly above average) but his 2 point percentage is significantly up. He's looked like a solid NBA player this season and has earned more minutes if anything.

[LloydFree]

I'm glad to hear you express that sentiment. The man deserves to coach a healthy Ben Simmons at the very least. I give him the entire season, and summer, and if we get off to a bad start again next year then you make a change.

The only reason that I would fire him this summer is if he has a poor season and a star coach is available.

My first cut would be Thompson, and my second one would be TJ.

I think that, at least until Simmons comes back, that we need TJ as a point guard. He is on thin ice though.

He also is the type of fringe NBA player that could probably have a large role overseas.


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Why would you cut Hollis? He's been good this year and has shown measured improvement. He's getting to the rim significantly more often than in the past, getting to the free throw line slightly more, and has significantly decreased his turnover rate (a rate that's declined each year since he entered the league). His 3 point shooting is slightly down (yet still significantly above average) but his 2 point percentage is significantly up. He's looked like a solid NBA player this season and has earned more minutes if anything.

There is no good reason to cut Holis Thompson. He's a useful piece off the bench. Makes no sense. Even if you wanted him off the team, other teams will always overpay for shooting.

[Misteclipse]

I'd start him over Covington at this point.

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[Ericb5]

I'm glad to hear you express that sentiment. The man deserves to coach a healthy Ben Simmons at the very least. I give him the entire season, and summer, and if we get off to a bad start again next year then you make a change.

The only reason that I would fire him this summer is if he has a poor season and a star coach is available.

My first cut would be Thompson, and my second one would be TJ.

I think that, at least until Simmons comes back, that we need TJ as a point guard. He is on thin ice though.

He also is the type of fringe NBA player that could probably have a large role overseas.


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Why would you cut Hollis? He's been good this year and has shown measured improvement. He's getting to the rim significantly more often than in the past, getting to the free throw line slightly more, and has significantly decreased his turnover rate (a rate that's declined each year since he entered the league). His 3 point shooting is slightly down (yet still significantly above average) but his 2 point percentage is significantly up. He's looked like a solid NBA player this season and has earned more minutes if anything.

There is no good reason to cut Holis Thompson. He's a useful piece off the bench. Makes no sense. Even if you wanted him off the team, other teams will always overpay for shooting.

I think that both of them are not sure nba players, and big parts of our problems. Neither one of them are likely to be on the team this time next year.

I think that we could use a scrub point guard more than a scrub shooter is what it comes down to.


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[SelfishPlayer]

The man deserves to coach a healthy Ben Simmons at the very least.

He doesn't deserve anything but the money left on his contract extension. He has Richaun Holmes fighting for minutes when he is one of the 3 best NBA players on the team.

[TTP]

Why would you cut Hollis? He's been good this year and has shown measured improvement. He's getting to the rim significantly more often than in the past, getting to the free throw line slightly more, and has significantly decreased his turnover rate (a rate that's declined each year since he entered the league). His 3 point shooting is slightly down (yet still significantly above average) but his 2 point percentage is significantly up. He's looked like a solid NBA player this season and has earned more minutes if anything.

There is no good reason to cut Holis Thompson. He's a useful piece off the bench. Makes no sense. Even if you wanted him off the team, other teams will always overpay for shooting.

I think that both of them are not sure nba players, and big parts of our problems. Neither one of them are likely to be on the team this time next year.

I think that we could use a scrub point guard more than a scrub shooter is what it comes down to.


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Why do you think Hollis is not an NBA player - especially considering what he's done this year?