Fantasy Trade Thread

[PhilasFinest]

Who says no?

Sixers trade Noel, Lakers 1st, Kings 1st, Rodriguez

Kings trade Middleton and Delly (negative value)


By the way, I love Noel, but I think a lot of you are overrating his value right now. I think some team will steal him away from us. He would be perfect with the Bucks or Warriors.

It doesn't make sense to give Noel away when you still control him. Either a team pays up, or you let him on the market to get his price and then just match the offer he gets. This team will have ~60M in cap room his summer and no shot at any big FA's yet.

Yea, but you also have Embiid who will be due a monster deal the following year. And then Simmons down the line, and so on. You can't just start handing out 20+Mil a year deals to guys to keep them when they ideally don't fit. Rookie deals end quickly and you've gotta be in a position to keep your core + add to it if possible.

[LloydFree]

Who says no?

Sixers trade Noel, Lakers 1st, Kings 1st, Rodriguez

Kings trade Middleton and Delly (negative value)


By the way, I love Noel, but I think a lot of you are overrating his value right now. I think some team will steal him away from us. He would be perfect with the Bucks or Warriors.

It doesn't make sense to give Noel away when you still control him. Either a team pays up, or you let him on the market to get his price and then just match the offer he gets. This team will have ~60M in cap room his summer and no shot at any big FA's yet.

Yea, but you also have Embiid who will be due a monster deal the following year. And then Simmons down the line, and so on. You can't just start handing out 20+Mil a year deals to guys to keep them when they ideally don't fit. Rookie deals end quickly and you've gotta be in a position to keep your core + add to it if possible.

Depends. Noel at 20 million per isn't the problem. Wasting 9-10 million on guys like Bayless could be a problem down the line. You won't be able to move Bayless easily if you want. If you believe Noel is truly a 20 million dollar player in the new salary cap, he would always be trade-able. It only becomes problem if you don't think anyone would take him off your hands at that salary. You should always attempt to retain players if they have value, you just can't pay well above their value, because that locks you in with the player. Right now, Centers like Noel are getting 18 mil in Free agency, so at 20 the 76ers don't get stuck if they want to get rid of their Embiid insurance.

[Sportfan73]

It doesn't make sense to give Noel away when you still control him. Either a team pays up, or you let him on the market to get his price and then just match the offer he gets. This team will have ~60M in cap room his summer and no shot at any big FA's yet.

Yea, but you also have Embiid who will be due a monster deal the following year. And then Simmons down the line, and so on. You can't just start handing out 20+Mil a year deals to guys to keep them when they ideally don't fit. Rookie deals end quickly and you've gotta be in a position to keep your core + add to it if possible.

Depends. Noel at 20 million per isn't the problem. Wasting 9-10 million on guys like Bayless could be a problem down the line. You won't be able to move Bayless easily if you want. If you believe Noel is truly a 20 million dollar player in the new salary cap, he would always be trade-able. It only becomes problem if you don't think anyone would take him off your hands at that salary. You should always attempt to retain players if they have value, you just can't pay well above their value, because that locks you in with the player. Right now, Centers like Noel are getting 18 mil in Free agency, so at 20 the 76ers don't get stuck if they want to get rid of their Embiid insurance.

Well Bayless's last year is not guaranteed. So if we get to that point we cut him. But I think these owners need to go far into the tax with how much money they have been saving the past 4 years. Biid max, Simmons max, max FA. Either jah/Nerlens deal, Cov deal, dario deal, and hopefully someone like Fultz max. If Cleveland can do it we can too.

[LloydFree]

Yea, but you also have Embiid who will be due a monster deal the following year. And then Simmons down the line, and so on. You can't just start handing out 20+Mil a year deals to guys to keep them when they ideally don't fit. Rookie deals end quickly and you've gotta be in a position to keep your core + add to it if possible.

Depends. Noel at 20 million per isn't the problem. Wasting 9-10 million on guys like Bayless could be a problem down the line. You won't be able to move Bayless easily if you want. If you believe Noel is truly a 20 million dollar player in the new salary cap, he would always be trade-able. It only becomes problem if you don't think anyone would take him off your hands at that salary. You should always attempt to retain players if they have value, you just can't pay well above their value, because that locks you in with the player. Right now, Centers like Noel are getting 18 mil in Free agency, so at 20 the 76ers don't get stuck if they want to get rid of their Embiid insurance.

Well Bayless's last year is not guaranteed. So if we get to that point we cut him. But I think these owners need to go far into the tax with how much money they have been saving the past 4 years. Biid max, Simmons max, max FA. Either jah/Nerlens deal, Cov deal, dario deal, and hopefully someone like Fultz max. If Cleveland can do it we can too.

Simmons (and the 2017 pick) shouldn't really be a consideration in regards to what we pay Noel. Noel would be in the last year of his deal, before those guys are up for their 2nd contract. The only important consideration the 76ers have is retaining flexibility to sign a Free agent in 2020, if they are paying Embiid 25, Noel 20 and Covington 15. The cap will be 110. If they don't waste a bunch of money on Bayless and Henderson types between now and then, 20 for Noel won't have a huge impact.

[eagereyez]

I wonder if the Wizards will match a max offer for Otto Porter. Harrison Barnes received $23M/year, so a max for Porter seems pretty likely. That would pretty much lock the Wizards into their current roster.

[OleSchool]

With Exum not getting a lot of run in Utah would anyone be willing to give up the LAL pick and say Hollis for him?

I don't know if Utah would do that but they are in a "make the playoff mode" I wasn't a big Exum fan, but he is young and I don't have a solid grip on the draft, outside the top 5 to project where Exum would fall in this draft (I'm assuming the LAL pick will fall between 8-12).

[Foshan]

With Exum not getting a lot of run in Utah would anyone be willing to give up the LAL pick and say Hollis for him?

I don't know if Utah would do that but they are in a "make the playoff mode" I wasn't a big Exum fan, but he is young and I don't have a solid grip on the draft, outside the top 5 to project where Exum would fall in this draft (I'm assuming the LAL pick will fall between 8-12).

Id have a very hard time giving a lotto pick for him. Maybe if at the deadline LA is looking border line playoffs I go for it.

[OleSchool]

With Exum not getting a lot of run in Utah would anyone be willing to give up the LAL pick and say Hollis for him?

I don't know if Utah would do that but they are in a "make the playoff mode" I wasn't a big Exum fan, but he is young and I don't have a solid grip on the draft, outside the top 5 to project where Exum would fall in this draft (I'm assuming the LAL pick will fall between 8-12).

Id have a very hard time giving a lotto pick for him. Maybe if at the deadline LA is looking border line playoffs I go for it.

Well like I said, I don't have an opinion on the players slated 8-12 (assuming that's where LAL lands) and how Exum would rate with them. Don't even know if Utah would do it. Heck, I don't even know I would do it

[the_process]

Who says no?

Sixers trade Noel, Lakers 1st, Kings 1st, Rodriguez

Kings trade Middleton and Delly (negative value)


By the way, I love Noel, but I think a lot of you are overrating his value right now. I think some team will steal him away from us. He would be perfect with the Bucks or Warriors.

It doesn't make sense to give Noel away when you still control him. Either a team pays up, or you let him on the market to get his price and then just match the offer he gets. This team will have ~60M in cap room his summer and no shot at any big FA's yet.

man, I don't know. Delly/Bayless orrrr maybe fultz (a man can dream)-Middleton-Covington-Simmons-Biid sounds **** good.

I was only responding to the last sentence where it was theorized that "some team will steal him away from us." I would trade Noel and the Laker pick for Middleton, however I don't think Milwaukee would make that deal.

[Kobblehead]

Why does everyone like Exum? He's a pretty skill-less basketball player with no actual position. He's definitely not a PG, IMO.

[Ericb5]

With Exum not getting a lot of run in Utah would anyone be willing to give up the LAL pick and say Hollis for him?

I don't know if Utah would do that but they are in a "make the playoff mode" I wasn't a big Exum fan, but he is young and I don't have a solid grip on the draft, outside the top 5 to project where Exum would fall in this draft (I'm assuming the LAL pick will fall between 8-12).

Id have a very hard time giving a lotto pick for him. Maybe if at the deadline LA is looking border line playoffs I go for it.

Well like I said, I don't have an opinion on the players slated 8-12 (assuming that's where LAL lands) and how Exum would rate with them. Don't even know if Utah would do it. Heck, I don't even know I would do it

I'm a big Exum fan, but the Lakers pick has so much variability, and this is shaping up to be such a deep lottery that I can't see me wanting to make that trade unless it was guaranteed to be the 13-14 pick.

If we are sitting at 8 or 9 though I think that I would prefer an Isaac or Monk to Exum.


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[76ciology]

After watching the Sixers-Nuggets I switched over to the Warriors-Pacers game. Man, that Warriors team is close to video game level on offense. They've probably reach the optimal strategy or close to it on how to play the game.

[the_process]

There is a thread on the T&T board where a WSH fan asked about a Bayless, Holmes, Stauskas, and Ilyasova for Beal, Nicholson, and McClellan trade.

By the new year everyone will be back healthy. (Although I'm guessing Bayless will be advised to have surgery soon, and just told to be ready for training camp.) BB has to optimize all of these guys somehow so BC can reshuffle the deck.

[spikeslovechild]

Basically the WAS fan is asking if we'd just take over his contract which I would be willing to do. Not sure if WAS is willing to give him up for nothing less then half a season giving him max money and extending him but the fit at PG is perfect. If we can convince him to abandon those long twos and he gets back to playing defense again he could easily be worth his deal.

The talent is there.

[Foshan]

I would like for us to look into buying low on guys like Dante Exum / Super Mario / Stanley Johnson

All guys who i don't think will drastically change our record for this year, but could have a profound impact if they can grow into their potential a bit. (Obviously without moving our picks)

[76ciology]

Hype aside..

Robert Covington + Nerlens Noel for Wiggins


Wolves:
Rubio
Lavine
RoCo
KAT
Nerlens

Sixers:
Sergio
Wiggins
Simmons
Saric
Embiid

or

Simmons
Henderson
Wiggins
Saric
Embiid

Wolves: Nerlens and Roco will be a great help for the Wolves on D.
Sixers: All things are possible with Embiid on D. Wiggins gives sixers a much needed scorer.

*not a big fan of this trade but I find it interesting

[Sportfan73]

Hype aside..

Robert Covington + Nerlens Noel for Wiggins


Wolves:
Rubio
Lavine
RoCo
KAT
Nerlens

Sixers:
Sergio
Wiggins
Simmons
Saric
Embiid

or

Simmons
Henderson
Wiggins
Saric
Embiid

Wolves: Nerlens and Roco will be a great help for the Wolves on D.
Sixers: All things are possible with Embiid on D. Wiggins gives sixers a much needed scorer.

*not a big fan of this trade but I find it interesting

Though wed have to add picks (just not our own) I'd do it

[Kobblehead]

I would like for us to look into buying low on guys like Dante Exum / Super Mario / Stanley Johnson

All guys who i don't think will drastically change our record for this year, but could have a profound impact if they can grow into their potential a bit. (Obviously without moving our picks)

I'd be interested in Stanley Johnson. He's the only of the three that I actually project as a starter.

Obviously what's holding Stanley back and making Detroit sour on him is his inability to hit shots. But like....he did shoot the ball well at Arizona so it's there in him.

I'm a little weary about Stan Van Gundy publicly slamming his work ethic and preparation, though. You usually just want to stay away from those types of players. If we're wondering why his jumpshot hasn't translated, maybe that's the answer right there.

[PhilasFinest]

I would like for us to look into buying low on guys like Dante Exum / Super Mario / Stanley Johnson

All guys who i don't think will drastically change our record for this year, but could have a profound impact if they can grow into their potential a bit. (Obviously without moving our picks)

Depending on the price, Id take Stanley or Hezonja in that order.

Exum just does not look good. He's getting somewhat consistent minutes, and even started a few games due to injuries and just doesn't do anything whatsovever on the floor.

IDK if he's struggling to get back from injury or what, but he looks lost out there.

[Unbreakable99]

Hype aside..

Robert Covington + Nerlens Noel for Wiggins


Wolves:
Rubio
Lavine
RoCo
KAT
Nerlens

Sixers:
Sergio
Wiggins
Simmons
Saric
Embiid

or

Simmons
Henderson
Wiggins
Saric
Embiid

Wolves: Nerlens and Roco will be a great help for the Wolves on D.
Sixers: All things are possible with Embiid on D. Wiggins gives sixers a much needed scorer.

*not a big fan of this trade but I find it interesting

I'd rather get LaVine in that deal than Wiggins.