Fantasy Trade Thread: 2020 Offseason

[76ciology]

Let’s say we enter the “James Harden Sweepstakes”.

Do we have the best offer with Ben?

[76ciology]

I think the biggest obstacle to trading Harden might be Morey and his relation with the Rockets ownership.

Otherwise, the team has clearly peaked and is declining, they dont have much assets and the architects of the team have left. Even if the ownership wants to keep Harden i think that he will clearly see that they are wasting his last prime years for no real reason and ask for a trade sooner or later. The only difference is the amount of assets the Rockets will get.

On the other hand if the Sixers want to win with Embiid a trade like that is probably their best chance, as was, in hindsight, trading for Kawhi. The odds of getting a star without trading Embiid or Simmons are basically zero given the Horford and Harris contracts. It is possible that if they refuse to make the Simmons-Harden trade (if it is available), the Sixers will be in the Rockets position with having to trade either Embiid or Simmons as it will be hard to justify (primarily to the players) this pairing. And next year there might not be a similar trade available.

Im crossing my fingers that Harden asks a trade to our team because of Morey.

Those two are way too close IMO.

[ProcessDoctor]

NOP out: Holiday, Ball
NOP in: Hield, Richardson, Smith, #21

PHI out: Horford, Richardson, Smith, #21, 2021 NYK 2nd
PHI in: Holiday, Joseph

SAC out: Hield, Joseph
SAC in: Horford, Ball, 2021 NYK 2nd


Simmons(20)/Joseph(24)/Milton(4)
Holiday(32)/Milton(16)
Thybulle(30)/Korkmaz(18)
Harris(34)/Simmons(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Simmons/Joseph/#36
Holiday/Milton/#49
Thybulle/Korkmaz/Shayok
Harris/Scott/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

[phillynative]

NOP out: Holiday, Ball
NOP in: Hield, Richardson, Smith, #21

PHI out: Horford, Richardson, Smith, #21, 2021 NYK 2nd
PHI in: Holiday, Joseph

SAC out: Hield, Joseph
SAC in: Horford, Ball, 2021 NYK 2nd


Simmons(20)/Joseph(24)/Milton(4)
Holiday(32)/Milton(16)
Thybulle(30)/Korkmaz(18)
Harris(34)/Simmons(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Simmons/Joseph/#36
Holiday/Milton/#49
Thybulle/Korkmaz/Shayok
Harris/Scott/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

Are we going all out defensively? Where is the shooting going to come from in that starting lineup? We would probably have to start shake there.

[ProcessDoctor]

NOP out: Holiday, Ball
NOP in: Hield, Richardson, Smith, #21

PHI out: Horford, Richardson, Smith, #21, 2021 NYK 2nd
PHI in: Holiday, Joseph

SAC out: Hield, Joseph
SAC in: Horford, Ball, 2021 NYK 2nd


Simmons(20)/Joseph(24)/Milton(4)
Holiday(32)/Milton(16)
Thybulle(30)/Korkmaz(18)
Harris(34)/Simmons(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Simmons/Joseph/#36
Holiday/Milton/#49
Thybulle/Korkmaz/Shayok
Harris/Scott/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

Are we going all out defensively? Where is the shooting going to come from in that starting lineup? We would probably have to start shake there.

Could easily re-arrange and start Milton instead of Thybulle.

Holiday(32)/Joseph(16)
Milton(24)/Korkmaz(16)/Joseph(8)
Harris(20)/Thybulle(28)
Simmons(34)/Harris(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Holiday/Joseph/#49
Milton/Korkmaz/#36
Harris/Thybulle/Shayok
Simmons/Scott/#34
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

[76ciology]

Bobcats:
Al Horford

Bulls:
Tobias Harris

What they have right now (rozier and lavine), what they will have after the draft (top 3&4) and Tobi and Al would make them confident to do the trade.

Sixers:
Batum (expiring)
Otto Porter (expiring)
Bulls and Bobcats 1st round picks with the ff. conditions

Top 10 Protected 2021, Pick swap in 2022, unprotected in 2023.

Starting 5:
Josh Rich
Batum
Otto Porter
Ben
Biid

By trade deadline
Batum
Porter
Bulls protected 1st rounder
Bobcats protected 1st rounder
Sixers 2021 1st rounder
Sixers 2023 1st rounder

For

Harden and Gordon
Or
Devin Booker
Or
Bradley Beal


Fertita will get a lot of cap relief and a lot of 1st round picks

[the_process]

Bobcats:
Al Horford

Bulls:
Tobias Harris

Sixers:
Batum (expiring)
Otto Porter (expiring)
Bulls and Bobcats 1st round picks with the ff. conditions

Top 10 Protected 2021, Pick swap in 2022, unprotected in 2023.

Starting 5:
Josh Rich
Batum
Otto Porter
Ben
Biid

By trade deadline
Batum
Porter
Bulls protected 1st rounder
Bobcats protected 1st rounder
Sixers 2021 1st rounder
Sixers 2023 1st rounder

For

Harden and Gordon

Fertita will get a lot of cap relief and a lot of 1st round picks

Except the Hornets aren’t trading an expiring and a 1st for Horford. I don’t think the Bulls would trade an expiring and a 1st for Harris, either.

[ProcessDoctor]

Horford/Richardson/Smith/#21/2022 1st (lotto protected) for LaVine/Porter


Simmons(34)/Milton(14)
LaVine(34)/Korkmaz(10)/Milton(6)
Thybulle(28)/Porter(14)/Korkmaz(6)
Harris(34)/Porter(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Simmons/Milton/#49
LaVine/Korkmaz/#34
Thybulle/#36/Shayok
Harris/Porter/Scott
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

[the_process]

I'd be calling Phoenix about Devin Booker.

[76ciology]

Horford/Richardson/Smith/#21/2022 1st (lotto protected) for LaVine/Porter


Simmons(34)/Milton(14)
LaVine(34)/Korkmaz(10)/Milton(6)
Thybulle(28)/Porter(14)/Korkmaz(6)
Harris(34)/Porter(14)
Embiid(30)/MLE(18)


Simmons/Milton/#49
LaVine/Korkmaz/#34
Thybulle/#36/Shayok
Harris/Porter/Scott
Embiid/MLE/Pelle

I think that’s too straightforward.

The way to go is to find one of those teams that are just happy to make the playoffs. Once you find one of those teams, you trade one of Al and Tobi for a lottery pick and fillers.

Bundle two lottery picks or you can use a lottery pick and Tobi or Al and our picks this year to move unto a higher pick.

Then you trade all that for Lavine or Booker.

That’s kind of how Morey would do it.

[freshie2]

Porter is intriguing as a buy low option. May be a more effective SF/PF player than Tobias. Looked great at time in Washington, but didn’t thrive in Chicago with lesser talent. May thrive with Ben and JoJo.

[ankle420breaker]

I think Morey will aim for the 2nd tier guard options like CP3, Dipo, Holiday, or CJ without parting with Ben or Joel.

I'd hope he'd look to make a supplementary move with Memphis to acquire Anderson and Winslow and anchor our perimeter defense.

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[LloydFree]

I could see an Al Horford + pick for Dwayne Dedmond move in the future.

[skulky]

I'd be calling Phoenix about Devin Booker.

I think it would take a lot more public demanding of a trade by booker for Phoenix to even consider moving him. They played great in the bubble and especially booker. I definitely think it would be something both teams would consider in season if they struggle.

[the_process]

I could see an Al Horford + pick for Dwayne Dedmond move in the future.

Atlanta fans would hate that, apparently he had bad things to say about them on his way out the door to Boston a few years ago.

[76ciology]

I could see an Al Horford + pick for Dwayne Dedmond move in the future.

Atlanta fans would hate that, apparently he had bad things to say about them on his way out the door to Boston a few years ago.

He means in the future. Like when we eventually invent the time machine and we can send a peak Al Horford.

[Phillyboy]

I'd be calling Phoenix about Devin Booker.

I think it would take a lot more public demanding of a trade by booker for Phoenix to even consider moving him. They played great in the bubble and especially booker. I definitely think it would be something both teams would consider in season if they struggle.

As good as Booker is he is not the fan or TV draw that Simmons is. For teams like Phoenix who are unlikely to draw big name FAs they need to consider adding a big name through trade if they can. There is the business of business that could enter any Simmons trade as it would with any player with draw power. Time to make the doughnuts.

If it were me, I don't do the deal straight up (I would need at least one more asset from them, Oubre would also a nice addition) but I would do the deal if they met the general terms. I believe Simmons will show up without a jump shot again and Booker IMO fits so much better with Embiid.

[darmani]

I'd be calling Phoenix about Devin Booker.

I think it would take a lot more public demanding of a trade by booker for Phoenix to even consider moving him. They played great in the bubble and especially booker. I definitely think it would be something both teams would consider in season if they struggle.

As good as Booker is he is not the fan or TV draw that Simmons is. For teams like Phoenix who are unlikely to draw big name FAs they need to consider adding a big name through trade if they can. There is the business of business that could enter any Simmons trade as it would with any player with draw power. Time to make the doughnuts.

If it were me, I don't do the deal straight up (I would need at least one more asset from them, Oubre would also a nice addition) but I would do the deal if they met the general terms. I believe Simmons will show up without a jump shot again and Booker IMO fits so much better with Embiid.

That's absurd. Simmons is not a bigger name than Booker, especially in Phoenix. There's a reason why the 76ers fans are overall much more interested in a Simmons for Booker swap than the Suns fans.

[stormi]

I think it would take a lot more public demanding of a trade by booker for Phoenix to even consider moving him. They played great in the bubble and especially booker. I definitely think it would be something both teams would consider in season if they struggle.

As good as Booker is he is not the fan or TV draw that Simmons is. For teams like Phoenix who are unlikely to draw big name FAs they need to consider adding a big name through trade if they can. There is the business of business that could enter any Simmons trade as it would with any player with draw power. Time to make the doughnuts.

If it were me, I don't do the deal straight up (I would need at least one more asset from them, Oubre would also a nice addition) but I would do the deal if they met the general terms. I believe Simmons will show up without a jump shot again and Booker IMO fits so much better with Embiid.

That's absurd. Simmons is not a bigger name than Booker, especially in Phoenix. There's a reason why the 76ers fans are overall much more interested in a Simmons for Booker swap than the Suns fans.

Definitely the much bigger name and talent. More globally recognized, plays in a much bigger market that has garners more national coverage than Phoenix. Has nearly double Bookers ig followers, over 200k more twitter followers, more decorated professionally. Was Lebron's protégé coming out of college and gets shouted out by him all the time. Booker is pretty much only known for being the guy to drop 70 and lose. Also you're on this board snooping. Says enough

[Phillyboy]

I think it would take a lot more public demanding of a trade by booker for Phoenix to even consider moving him. They played great in the bubble and especially booker. I definitely think it would be something both teams would consider in season if they struggle.

As good as Booker is he is not the fan or TV draw that Simmons is. For teams like Phoenix who are unlikely to draw big name FAs they need to consider adding a big name through trade if they can. There is the business of business that could enter any Simmons trade as it would with any player with draw power. Time to make the doughnuts.

If it were me, I don't do the deal straight up (I would need at least one more asset from them, Oubre would also a nice addition) but I would do the deal if they met the general terms. I believe Simmons will show up without a jump shot again and Booker IMO fits so much better with Embiid.

That's absurd. Simmons is not a bigger name than Booker, especially in Phoenix. There's a reason why the 76ers fans are overall much more interested in a Simmons for Booker swap than the Suns fans.

Absurd that Simmons is a bigger gate draw than Booker? Really?

I agree with you sir that one of our posts here is indeed absurd.