The Playoffs Thread

Murray_17 · Post #221 » by **Murray_17** » Sun May 23, 2021 1:52 am

Blake is so done.

stormi · Post #222 » by **stormi** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:04 am

VDT wrote:
stormi wrote:Giannis might be a worse shooter than Ben. Everything about his mechanics are busted to oblivion.

He has probably put too much upper body mass. He was a better shooter as a rookie but the bigger he got the more his ft percentages dipped. It helped his overall game but his shooting became worse. I am pretty sure he works as hard as anyone to fix his shot but he appears to have no natural shooting touch.

He doesn't look like a basketball player at all. No feel for the game, no dribbling ability or bag of any sort. Just an athletic specimen with a relentless work ethic and a freakish desire to be the best player he can.

Not sure it's enough though and he isn't a championship level #1 option to me.

DCasey91 · Post #223 » by **DCasey91** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:08 am

We are going to run into the same trouble as the Bucks and they have way better iso/perimeter scoring threats to choose from (Middleton/Holiday).

Love Embiid just wished he doubled down on defense instead of scoring. Improved passing yes heck yes.

Milton
Curry
Green/Harris
Simmons
Embiid

This maybe is our best lineup we can muster.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #224 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:08 am

Murray_17 wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I'd like our chances against Brooklyn if we could just borrow Marcus Smart and Jayson Tatum for a few games.

We have a better perimeter defense than them, so i don't see why we need them.

The nets are gonna have problems in the playoffs. You can see they don't have sets or regular plays on offense and are just switching to get ISO.

They have 3 offensive monsters so maybe it can work out, but i don't see the point of having guys like Joe Harris out there if you can't exploit the space he offers.

Good point. Brooklyn does seem to be surviving on talent right now.

Sixersftw · Post #225 » by **Sixersftw** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:08 am

Timelord is kinda going nuts

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #226 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:12 am

DCasey91 wrote:We are going to run into the same trouble as the Bucks and they have way better iso/perimeter scoring threats to choose from (Middleton/Holiday).

Love Embiid just wished he doubled down on defense instead of scoring. Improved passing yes heck yes.

Milton
Curry
Green/Harris
Simmons
Embiid

This maybe is our best lineup we can muster.

Doc is not going to go with Milton and Curry together for very long. In fact, I look for Curry to get canceled completely out if we advance deep into the postseason. He can't defend anyone. You could possible hide him on a player like Joe Harris, but that is about it. Milton, I agree with you on. He's going to have to step up and play big minutes and produce if we're going to have a shot at this. I look for Green and Thybulle to play a ton of minutes as well. Doc is either going to have to lose defense by playing Curry, or shooting by playing Thybulle. It's a tough spot to be in. If Thybulle could knock down a consistent three, then it wouldn't be an issue.

DCasey91 · Post #227 » by **DCasey91** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:19 am

I reckon Lakers will eat the Nets alive. Lack so much size and their defense is lackluster. Missed shots they’ll punish them on the way back imo Celtics aren’t good enough to punish, they play the same iso heavy game but with one less and lesser caliber players.

Interesting that they are pass the parcelling it on iso plays between the big three. LBJ/Davis will love that with zero motion needed to to defend/cover.
I reckon it would look so much better if Irving was the moving player because he can be that. Harris might actually be useless down the stretch we got to attack both at every opportunity we can.

DCasey91 · Post #228 » by **DCasey91** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:23 am

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:We are going to run into the same trouble as the Bucks and they have way better iso/perimeter scoring threats to choose from (Middleton/Holiday).

Love Embiid just wished he doubled down on defense instead of scoring. Improved passing yes heck yes.

Milton
Curry
Green/Harris
Simmons
Embiid

This maybe is our best lineup we can muster.

Doc is not going to go with Milton and Curry together for very long. In fact, I look for Curry to get canceled completely out if we advance deep into the postseason. He can't defend anyone. You could possible hide him on a player like Joe Harris, but that is about it. Milton, I agree with you on. He's going to have to step up and play big minutes and produce if we're going to have a shot at this. I look for Green and Thybulle to play a ton of minutes as well. Doc is either going to have to lose defense by playing Curry, or shooting by playing Thybulle. It's a tough spot to be in. If Thybulle could knock down a consistent three, then it wouldn't be an issue.

I agree on the Curry front but it’s Doc and nepotism so we’d have to get burn repeatedly and even then the change might be too late. The setup is more or less 2 ballhandlers/scorers a wing and 4 shooters all up (one non being Ben).

Hill/Maxey could play that role. But having a spread offense is key for Embiid. Or alternatively a mix and match Harris/Embiid/Simmons in the post, pnr/roll man plays. I’m not a big fan of Embiid post play 5x in a row it’s too easy to scheme against as we’ve all seen so many times before.

Negrodamus · Post #229 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:28 am

Well, Kenna really showed up today. How many more years do they have with him?

Sixersftw · Post #230 » by **Sixersftw** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:28 am

Timelord can't win with these cats

Sixersftw · Post #231 » by **Sixersftw** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:29 am

Negrodamus wrote:Well, Kenna really showed up today. How many more years do they have with him?

2 more seasons. I'm sure he'll be better at 32.

kio80 · Post #232 » by **kio80** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:31 am

put a fork in it, there's no way our team can compete with the Nets, especially playing 4v5 on offense

DCasey91 · Post #233 » by **DCasey91** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:34 am

Durant 30+
Irving 25 or so
Harden 20/10

That’s pretty much how’s it going to be, it’s so easy for all three to get that.

Goddamn timelord is going nuts lol

Thing is ISO heavy stuff it’s a lot of man on man defending, I’m less worried with Durant/Harden than I am Irving.

Murray_17 · Post #234 » by **Murray_17** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:34 am

Boston is seriously stupid if they think they can outscore the Nets on isos.

DCasey91 · Post #235 » by **DCasey91** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:37 am

Murray_17 wrote:Boston is seriously stupid if they think they can outscore the Nets on isos.

It’s actually the way they played all year it’s kind of funny to watch atm, 2 vs 3 better ones doing the same thing. Though Harden doing PG duties is not fair at all lol. He can just chill and collect steals when everything slows down.

DCasey91 · Post #236 » by **DCasey91** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:43 am

I want to send like hours and hours of Irving footage to Maxey. As a scoring guard he’s brilliant.

Murray_17 · Post #237 » by **Murray_17** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:45 am

DCasey91 wrote:
Murray_17 wrote:Boston is seriously stupid if they think they can outscore the Nets on isos.

It’s actually the way they played all year it’s kind of funny to watch atm, 2 vs 3 better ones doing the same thing. Though Harden doing PG duties is not fair at all lol. He can just chill and collect steals when everything slows down.

He isn't doing too much as a PG either, just doing passes to create switches.

I think a good to great defensive team is gonna give them the nightmares, specially if you commit to not taking the switch. I don't know if that team is the Sixers because we're also kind of easy to defend.

I'm also curious to see what will happen when they're forced to stop playing small. Tristan was useless.

DCasey91 · Post #238 » by **DCasey91** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:52 am

Murray_17 wrote:
DCasey91 wrote:
Murray_17 wrote:Boston is seriously stupid if they think they can outscore the Nets on isos.

It’s actually the way they played all year it’s kind of funny to watch atm, 2 vs 3 better ones doing the same thing. Though Harden doing PG duties is not fair at all lol. He can just chill and collect steals when everything slows down.

He isn't doing too much as a PG either, just doing passes to create switches.

I think a good to great defensive team is gonna give them the nightmares, specially if you commit to not taking the switch. I don't know if that team is the Sixers because we're also kind of easy to defend.

I'm also curious to see what will happen when they're forced to stop playing small. Tristan was useless.

Yeah the facilitating job is pretty cruisey for an elite player when you have Durant/Irving/Harris as the open shot.

Lakers have the right balance of Offense/Defense where they can punish the Nets with size on both.
Unfortunately for us we can defense but that’s only good if your offense can score enough. And even then having three legit elite players doing what they do they are going to get theirs regardless it’s just how much bleeding can we stem.

As you rightly put we are easy to defend and the 3 is a such swing play.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #239 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sun May 23, 2021 2:56 am

Brooklyn will sweep this Boston team. I mean, they are dead to rights without Brown. They were dead anyway, but at least now they know how we felt last year without Simmons. Our only hope is Milwaukee roughs them up in the second round and makes that series go seven games. The road to the finals for us will not be easy at all. Heck, Washington is going to give us a problem as it is.

Murray_17 · Post #240 » by **Murray_17** » Sun May 23, 2021 3:01 am

I agree that the Lakers can hang with the nets because of their balance and length. But i think their biggest problem is actually the Bucks.

They don't have the size or interior presence to create a "wall" against Giannis. And is gonna be difficult to switch or get isos or play small against versatile defenders with length like Lopez/Giannis/Jrue/Middleton/Tucker, unless they constantly target Divicenzo.

The other problem for them against the Bucks is, their defense is gonna get exposed against a good 3 point team.

Hilariously, we match up better with the Bucks than the nets precissely because our size can stop Giannis and we have multiple options to put on him.