Simmons Trade Thread - The Ocho

[Black Mage]

I’d be OK something like..

Wolves:
Ben Simmons

Pistons:
Tobias Harris
2022 Sixers Pick
Jaden Springer

Sixers:
DLo
Jerami Grant
Wolves 2022 Pick

Congrats, you managed to unload the 2 best players in the deal for garbage.

[sixers4real]

The fit between Ben and Zion is so bad, I don't see a way the Pels make a Ben-based Ingram deal.

You would have to hope they fire Griffin, hold Zion out for the year, and decide to tank it up so they become interested in a bunch of Minnesota picks.

I never said that Ben makes any sense for NO. Matter of fact, im saying everywhere that three team trade with Wolves Sixers and Pelicans make sense for everybody.

I am also on the Ingram train. To get him, it’s either the Kings or the Wolves as the third team. If we’re lucky, it becomes a bidding war and we squeeze a swap or something else that’s tangible out of it too. Kings with their talk of firing the coach, and Minnesota with the new owners and with Towns growing restless.

I’d throw in a lottery protected 1st to get Ingram, TBH.
The potential of Ingram, Embiid, Maxey is very intriguing to me. Harris is playing great this year. And with Morey’s ability to find exceptional role players on great deals (Curry, Drummond, Niang, Kork) we’ll be set.

[Foshan]

Same issue with Blazers and Dame

If I was the GM who moved Lillard, it’s definitely a reset with CJ following

Morey seems to know that & why the ask is so heavy with other teams

I thought they didn't own their pick this year? Could be wrong, seems like a great year to make the move for Simmons/Dame, see what happens, and then dump everyone in the offseason if it doesn't/when it doesn't work well. I think CJs value would increase post dame trade.

[Sixerscan]

Same issue with Blazers and Dame

If I was the GM who moved Lillard, it’s definitely a reset with CJ following

Morey seems to know that & why the ask is so heavy with other teams

I thought they didn't own their pick this year? Could be wrong, seems like a great year to make the move for Simmons/Dame, see what happens, and then dump everyone in the offseason if it doesn't/when it doesn't work well. I think CJs value would increase post dame trade.

Lotto protected for a long time.

[Tomjas]

Same issue with Blazers and Dame

If I was the GM who moved Lillard, it’s definitely a reset with CJ following

Morey seems to know that & why the ask is so heavy with other teams

I thought they didn't own their pick this year? Could be wrong, seems like a great year to make the move for Simmons/Dame, see what happens, and then dump everyone in the offseason if it doesn't/when it doesn't work well. I think CJs value would increase post dame trade.

Lotto protected for a long time.

Probably conveys this year unless something dramatic happens

Need to find 3rd team to get at least a decent 2022 first rounder for Ben

[Foshan]

Same issue with Blazers and Dame

If I was the GM who moved Lillard, it’s definitely a reset with CJ following

Morey seems to know that & why the ask is so heavy with other teams

I thought they didn't own their pick this year? Could be wrong, seems like a great year to make the move for Simmons/Dame, see what happens, and then dump everyone in the offseason if it doesn't/when it doesn't work well. I think CJs value would increase post dame trade.

Lotto protected for a long time.

Trade Dame for Ben, push for the playoffs, increase player value.

Off season, trade everyone at an increased value, and tank. Perfect.

[76ciology]

I’d be OK something like..

Wolves:
Ben Simmons

Pistons:
Tobias Harris
2022 Sixers Pick
Jaden Springer

Sixers:
DLo
Jerami Grant
Wolves 2022 Pick

Congrats, you managed to unload the 2 best players in the deal for garbage.

Im not even trying

[sixers4real]

So the Pelicans are the worst team in the West (Ingram)
And the Wolves are bottom 3 in the West (Edwards + salary or picks + salary)

Three team trade incoming with Simmons to Minnesota

[Tomjas]

Pelicans have no incentive to improve this season

[Tomjas]

So the Pelicans are the worst team in the West (Ingram)
And the Wolves are bottom 3 in the West (Edwards + salary or picks + salary)

Three team trade incoming with Simmons to Minnesota

Edwards is an amazing talent on a rookie deal

Pelicans have a lottery protected 1st & need to keep losing

Those dogs won’t hunt

[Iverson Armband]

So the Pelicans are the worst team in the West (Ingram)
And the Wolves are bottom 3 in the West (Edwards + salary or picks + salary)

Three team trade incoming with Simmons to Minnesota

Because why? You want it to happen? Lol

[Sixerscan]

Pelicans have no incentive to improve this season

So do a three way where they get picks from the Wolves or someone like that for Ingram. Now they're even worse, congrats.

[kuclas]

At this rate. I think Simmons sits out the entire season with no pay or very little pay. And Morey trades in June/July 2022

The reason I say this is because If Morey waits to nba tread deadline in feb. Teams like Sacramento Minnesota pelicans who all own their 2022 first round pick. Really don’t want to pickup a players like Simmons when they are so down in the standings.

Acquiring Simmons in feb 2022 may mean the team may win an extra 2-3 games. That could be the difference between being able to draft in the top 3 vs top 6/7. Just a couple of games won can affect draft status big time. Ask okc last season. They won a couple of games and shifted down to 6 in the draft.

[Sixerscan]

At this rate. I think Simmons sits out the entire season with no pay or very little pay. And Morey trades in June/July 2022

The reason I say this is because If Morey waits to nba tread deadline in feb. Teams like Sacramento Minnesota pelicans who all own their 2022 first round pick. Really don’t want to pickup a players like Simmons when they are so down in the standings.

Acquiring Simmons in feb 2022 may mean the team may win an extra 2-3 games. That could be the difference between being able to draft in the top 3 vs top 6/7. Just a couple of games won can affect draft status big time. Ask okc last season. They won a couple of games and shifted down to 6 in the draft.

The Bulls traded for Vuc at the deadline, Wolves traded for Russell the year before, these teams have haven't made the playoffs in a while sometimes make trades for guys to get some momentum going into the following year. Is that smart, maybe not, but there's a reason why they haven't made the playoffs in a while.

[kuclas]

At this rate. I think Simmons sits out the entire season with no pay or very little pay. And Morey trades in June/July 2022

The reason I say this is because If Morey waits to nba tread deadline in feb. Teams like Sacramento Minnesota pelicans who all own their 2022 first round pick. Really don’t want to pickup a players like Simmons when they are so down in the standings.

Acquiring Simmons in feb 2022 may mean the team may win an extra 2-3 games. That could be the difference between being able to draft in the top 3 vs top 6/7. Just a couple of games won can affect draft status big time. Ask okc last season. They won a couple of games and shifted down to 6 in the draft.

The Bulls traded for Vuc at the deadline, Wolves traded for Russell the year before, these teams have haven't made the playoffs in a while sometimes make trades for guys to get some momentum going. Is that smart, maybe not, but there's a reason why they haven't made the playoffs in a while.

You need to have willing trade partners. Orlando decided it was gonna to tank the rest of the season and started trading their core players. Chicago was in the 9/10th slot or something so was trying to compete for a playoff spot. Thus wanting to make the trade.

If Embiid goes down with season ending injury in the next 10-20 games, I can see Simmons getting traded for 30 cents on the dollar.

But sixres are trying to compete here. Other teams like Boston/Minnesota/Sacroment/Portland also are trying to compete. So none of those teams outside Porland want to give up any players of signifcant value to them. Portland is ok with giving up CJ because we all know Norm Powell does 90% of what CJ does offensively plus better defender. So Portland isnt' hurt by moving Powell.

[the_process]

NOP gets Fox and Thybulle
PHI gets Ingram, Barnes, and Hield
SAC gets Simmons, Harris, Curry, and PHI 1st

Maybe you can get this done without the 1st? But I wouldn't let that nitpick stop this deal.

[kuclas]

NOP gets Fox and Thybulle
PHI gets Ingram, Barnes, and Hield
SAC gets Simmons, Harris, Curry, and PHI 1st

Maybe you can get this done without the 1st? But I wouldn't let that nitpick stop this deal.

That seems like a fair trade...except teams want to rip every other team off these days.

So any logical trade like this makes sense to almost any outsider except the local team's fans who think they should have to give up Fox or Ingram in any trade.

[Tomjas]

Pelicans have no incentive to improve this season

So do a three way where they get picks from the Wolves or someone like that for Ingram. Now they're even worse, congrats.

Pels first is lottery protected this season

Keep going as they are, keep the pick and build around Zion, Ingram, Val and whoever they pick

Or trade the pick with Ingram for a top player

Etc

Lots of options but changes just for the sake of it & losing your pick would be dumb

[Embiid P]

You know it's gotten ugly when fans find Simmons more annoying than someone crashing into their car lol.

https://sports.yahoo.com/76-ers-fan-shrugs-off-car-crash-to-complain-about-ben-simmons-213024898.html?fr=sychp_catchall

[Sixerscan]

Pelicans have no incentive to improve this season

So do a three way where they get picks from the Wolves or someone like that for Ingram. Now they're even worse, congrats.

Pels first is lottery protected this season

Keep going as they are, keep the pick and build around Zion, Ingram, Val and whoever they pick

Or trade the pick with Ingram for a top player

Etc

Lots of options but changes just for the sake of it & losing your pick would be dumb

That's why I said they could trade Ingram for picks.

But like every year like half of the playoff teams lose their picks because they traded some protected pick away before the season started if not years prior, not sure why you are acting like it's some sort of crazy thing for a team to not do everything they can to keep their draft picks. Plenty of teams think losing a mid first round pick is well worth the millions of dollars you get from hosting playoff games, especially a small market like NOLA.