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** Official 2024 Make or Break Offseason Thread **

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Re: ** Official 2024 Make or Break Offseason Thread ** 

Post#221 » by Arsenal » Fri May 3, 2024 1:36 pm

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76ciology wrote:Would you guys want to re-sign Hield? Hopefully we can replace Reed’s contract with him.


For Reed's money, I would resign Hield. Finding microwave shooters like that is never easy, and we got a glimpse of his potential impact last night. He is a perfect 6th-8th type of player, and a full off season and training camp will only help.


This. Hield is well worth around $8m/yr. Would like him back for that amount, which leaves room to add several other pieces also.

A full year together with Jo and Maxey and he should be more effective.
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Post#222 » by NYSixersFan » Fri May 3, 2024 1:49 pm

I would not bring back any of the UFA's for any real money. 1 year deals at a low cost? fine. Batum, 1 year, 5 mil. Lowry on the vet minimum.

I would not bring back Oubre.
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Post#223 » by 76ciology » Fri May 3, 2024 1:50 pm

Im leaning towards signing Jimmy with that money he’s asking for just two years, it’s perfect to Embiid’s 2 year window.
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Post#224 » by NYSixersFan » Fri May 3, 2024 1:51 pm

I would keep Council.
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Post#225 » by Sixersftw » Fri May 3, 2024 1:51 pm

76ciology wrote:Im leaning towards signing Jimmy with that money he’s asking for just two years, it’s perfect to Embiid’s 2 year window.

Isn't Jimmy under contract? We'd have to deal for him right?
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Post#226 » by youngcrev » Fri May 3, 2024 1:52 pm

I get the thought process of wanting to spread the free agent money out to build depth, but middle class of the NBA tends to provide bad value per dollar, and there just aren't many guys in this market that are worth more than MLE money.

Guys in that MLE to 20M range this summer:

Malik Monk, Bruce Brown, Caleb Martin, Tobias Harris, Buddy Hield, De Anthony Melton, Gary Trent Jr, Sadiq Bey, Miles Bridges, Kelly Oubre

Klay is likely above this range (Monk and Tobias might get more too...)

Maybe there's trades to be made that leverage cap space for a contributor. Maybe I'm missing some guys.

Personally, if I can get a guy like Paul George, LeBron or Pascal to sign, I think it's an easy decision.

Hopefully that leaves you enough left to sign a guy in the 10-15M range, someone with room exception, and you can get contributors in the draft and with vet minimums.

Something like:

Maxey
Oubre (remaining cap)
George (max-type deal)
Batum (room)
Embiid

Looks like a really good lineup with a lot of length, shooting and creation.

Hopefully you can get an immediate bench contributor in the draft (or 2 with an early 2nd). Throw in some vet mins (Lowry? Payne? Drummond? Cov? Dinwiddie?). Re-sign KMart Jr with his low cap hold as either a bench guy or future trade fodder.

I prefer the "trade for a 3rd star in his prime" route, but I don't think they have enough to get that done.
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Re: ** Official 2024 Make or Break Offseason Thread ** 

Post#227 » by Arsenal » Fri May 3, 2024 1:53 pm

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76ciology wrote:Im leaning towards signing Jimmy with that money he’s asking for just two years, it’s perfect to Embiid’s 2 year window.

Isn't Jimmy under contract? We'd have to deal for him right?


Yeah we'd have to trade for him plus pay $50m+ per year. Not sure how we fill the rest of the roster if we get him as almost all the cap will be gone.
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Post#229 » by youngcrev » Fri May 3, 2024 2:00 pm

Playing out the Lauri Markkanen thing, I get that him having a low cap number is part of the appeal since you could still go after free agents, but I wonder if part of the appeal to him would be us using that cap space to renegotiate and extend his deal?

A renegotiated MAX for Lauri would be around 42M (I think), which would still give you some wiggle room to make a move or 2.
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Post#230 » by zaz102 » Fri May 3, 2024 2:05 pm

youngcrev wrote:Playing out the Lauri Markkanen thing, I get that him having a low cap number is part of the appeal since you could still go after free agents, but I wonder if part of the appeal to him would be us using that cap space to renegotiate and extend his deal?

A renegotiated MAX for Lauri would be around 42M (I think), which would still give you some wiggle room to make a move or 2.
That's a huge plus for me. Another reason why Bridges is such an attractive option.

I'm all for PG13, but if we sign him, will the rest of our roster be dog water.
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Post#231 » by Arsenal » Fri May 3, 2024 2:08 pm

There's a $8m difference between the MAX for PG ($50m) vs for Siakam or Lauri or another younger guy ($42m) which equals one more decent rotation player.

Prefer Siakam because of that and because he's younger so we're more likely to get value throughout the contract.
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Post#232 » by FireMorey » Fri May 3, 2024 2:11 pm

Once the Sixers get rid of Reed’s contract they’ll have over 70m in space. So that’s like a max contract and a half. Or a little more depending on the player. I really don’t want Paul George. They better sign a player though and make a trade. Signing Paul George and just keeping all their free agents would be a terrible plan. Something like Siakam and trading for Butler.
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Post#233 » by Arsenal » Fri May 3, 2024 2:12 pm

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youngcrev wrote:Playing out the Lauri Markkanen thing, I get that him having a low cap number is part of the appeal since you could still go after free agents, but I wonder if part of the appeal to him would be us using that cap space to renegotiate and extend his deal?

A renegotiated MAX for Lauri would be around 42M (I think), which would still give you some wiggle room to make a move or 2.
That's a huge plus for me. Another reason why Bridges is such an attractive option.

I'm all for PG13, but if we sign him, will the rest of our roster be dog water.


Yeah Lauri and Mikal are a major value for us due to their relatively low current salaries, which allow us to fill the cap with some additional pieces. For that reason I'd be willing to burn several picks to trade for either, since we'd be able to sign 2-3 rotation pieces alongside them that we couldn't do if we sign a MAX guy like Siakam or PG.
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Post#234 » by FireMorey » Fri May 3, 2024 2:18 pm

Bridges isn’t getting traded. Lauri very well could.
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Post#235 » by Tony Franciosa » Fri May 3, 2024 2:24 pm

Lauri looks very good as a fit on paper. I'm afraid of the Ainge tax though.
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Post#236 » by Arsenal » Fri May 3, 2024 2:26 pm

Per Bobby Marks we have $65m in cap room if we waive Paul Reed and trade away our 1st round pick. If we keep the pick then we're around $61m I believe.

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Post#237 » by 76ciology » Fri May 3, 2024 2:28 pm

The Sixers are putting Paul George “at the top of their list” for players to acquire this offseason, Windhorst said on Get Up.

“I think that Philly is gonna come out with a max offer to Paul George, and the Clippers are gonna have to decide max or not. And Paul George is gonna have to decide, ‘Do I want to stay here or not?’”
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Post#238 » by Iscull » Fri May 3, 2024 2:28 pm

If we sign PG13 to a max we’re screwed
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Post#239 » by FireMorey » Fri May 3, 2024 2:29 pm

Do they have the ability cap wise to sign a max player and trade for a guy like Butler?
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Post#240 » by youngcrev » Fri May 3, 2024 2:31 pm

FireMorey wrote:Once the Sixers get rid of Reed’s contract they’ll have over 70m in space. So that’s like a max contract and a half. Or a little more depending on the player. I really don’t want Paul George. They better sign a player though and make a trade. Signing Paul George and just keeping all their free agents would be a terrible plan. Something like Siakam and trading for Butler.


I think it's somewhere in the mid-60s if they get rid of Reed once you factor in their pick and minimum salary cap holds.

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