Knicks @ 76ers 11/12/2024

[Black Mage]

Not sure I get the anti-Morey hate right now. Martin's shot looks different, how is that Morey's fault if a player changes mechanics? PG13 is clearly going to be a massive upgrade at the wing. Maxey/George/McCain give us legitimate 3 point shooters. More than we've had in about 20 years.

The connective tissue pieces have had minimal practice time together and even less on court time to come together and gel. Martin showed tonight his value as a point of attack defender. OUbre just gives you length/athleticism and energy which will get focused better once Maxey comes back to the team.

Way too early to kill Morey. McCain good move; PG13 good move; Yabu good move. Martin/Oubre are still TBD.

Never, ever sign a player that Spo doesn’t want

Except the Heat tried to keep Martin, so your theory fails.

[MikRay]

At least McCain is a bright spot

Embiid = washed just just doesn’t have what it takes inside to be a champion

Paul George is a good guy, but hurt all the time and curls up in the fetal position In crunch time throughout his career.

Start over …

[ivysixer2000]

We have been asking for a spark off the bench for like forever, plus having length around Max. Now we have both.

McCain is a rookie, maybe start him while Max is out but when Max is back its nice to have length and McCain off the bench.

As for the rest of the team, I didn't expect to start this slow so we have alot of haters right now. This is going to take a while to gel, but we are deeper than we have ever been around Embiid. There are alot of positives, we just have to be patient and hope its not too late.

[FireMorey]

McCain is a guy who no one counted on to remotely be a contributor of significance this season. And not only has he, but he's probably the best role player on the entire roster.

And with that the depth has still been terrible. That tells you how bad the depth guys have been this season. That they're getting major contributions from a guy no one expected and it's still been awful. Every player signed during the summer not named PG has been pretty awful. Except maybe Lowry, but he just kind of is who he is.

[phifans]

I think we will be just fine to start over around Maxey McCain and whoever we will get with our top 4 pick next year. At least It's much much better than most teams who starts their tank mode. Not to mention we still have Joel and Paul either as players or assets.

[M2J]

Just got back from watching these basketball games with friends... Was excited to share my excitement of watching Jared.... Only for so many of you to ruin that for me.


You know who you are

[Stanford]

2-9

[elchengue20]

I told you about Embiid a couple of years now.

Great player but just too stupid and soft to lead you to a championship. And that's without talking about injuries.

Also told ya the window to contend with him was very short, aint no way he's still going to be a Superstar in 2 or 3 years.

[Peak Brunson]

I wouldn't worry about Embiid too much, he is still rusty, in a week or so he will be alright.

[Black Mage]

Just got back from watching these basketball games with friends... Was excited to share my excitement of watching Jared.... Only for so many of you to ruin that for me.


You know who you are

I'm all in for hearing your McCain excitement; kid has been great for us.

If my frustrations with Joel brought ya down; sorry about that, but I'm just aggravated b/c the team continues to lie to us. The supposed reason we're 10 games in with no Joel was to "ramp" up. Yet, Joel shows up tonight clearly out of condition and was already begging out within the first 5 minutes of a game. Worse, his mindset was classic garbage Joel. Pouting and sulking when plays didn't go his way. I'm not even talking about foul calls, I'm talking about him openly displaying frustration at teammates and those frustrations leading to multiple Knick buckets. It was about as bad of a first impression the "new" Joel could have made.

So bring me back up and give some McCain love.

[Negrodamus]

McCain is a guy who no one counted on to remotely be a contributor of significance this season. And not only has he, but he's probably the best role player on the entire roster.

And with that the depth has still been terrible. That tells you how bad the depth guys have been this season. That they're getting major contributions from a guy no one expected and it's still been awful. Every player signed during the summer not named PG has been pretty awful. Except maybe Lowry, but he just kind of is who he is.

I, and I think a few others on here (Mik possibly?), thought he'd be a good player off the bench for when Maxey needed a breather and we still wanted a dynamic scorer with Embiid. It's hard to predict all of our stars being injured at random times and we'd need to lean on him more than that though.

[the_process]

I think we will be just fine to start over around Maxey McCain and whoever we will get with our top 4 pick next year. At least It's much much better than most teams who starts their tank mode. Not to mention we still have Joel and Paul either as players or assets.

Maxey and McCain is not a long term backcourt.

Also still not buying McCain. But hopefully he keeps moving his trade value up.

3 years after this of this same damn roster.

[MikRay]

Just got back from watching these basketball games with friends... Was excited to share my excitement of watching Jared.... Only for so many of you to ruin that for me.


You know who you are

I'm all in for hearing your McCain excitement; kid has been great for us.

If my frustrations with Joel brought ya down; sorry about that, but I'm just aggravated b/c the team continues to lie to us. The supposed reason we're 10 games in with no Joel was to "ramp" up. Yet, Joel shows up tonight clearly out of condition and was already begging out within the first 5 minutes of a game. Worse, his mindset was classic garbage Joel. Pouting and sulking when plays didn't go his way. I'm not even talking about foul calls, I'm talking about him openly displaying frustration at teammates and those frustrations leading to multiple Knick buckets. It was about as bad of a first impression the "new" Joel could have made.

So bring me back up and give some McCain love.

Spot on with Joel we should have unloaded the child last year now we’ll get nothing for him if we try to move him next summer.!

[Mik317]

you'd think so many so called Sixers fans would be used to Ramp Up Embiid games by now lol. I thought despite the numbers he played fine. Didn't really force anything, was simply short on shots which is generally a not having legs thing, still deterred at the rim by just being there and actually kept the ball moving for the most part and yeah he was gassed early...as should anyone who hasn't played NBA basketball for months lol.

He is a low key terrible rebounder tho and that needs to be fixed big time. I don't think he likes jumping in crowded spaces and thus just attempts to paw at the ball which probably works against our ass rebounders in practice lol.

as for the calls for trading him, again regardless of your feelings on him it was NEVER going to happen. No one trades a MVP without said MVP wanting out. You go down with the ship every time....if only on the off chance of a fluke run out of nowhere. I am tired of people whining about something that was NEVER going to happen and won't happen unless Biid asks out. So find a new thing to whine about on your 13th alt account for once.

[ankle420breaker]

Embiid is who he is, and unfortunately he's a soft player. Giannis, for example, wouldn't show up totally unconditioned with statue body language (albeit at home against the team that eliminated us). He also wouldn't settle for contested jumpers, opt out of rebounding, or play lazy defense.

We may be used to it by now, but that doesn't mean it's excusable. Shaq was totally warranted in calling him out and I'm glad he did.

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[WentzerWuver]

you'd think so many so called Sixers fans would be used to Ramp Up Embiid games by now lol. I thought despite the numbers he played fine. Didn't really force anything, was simply short on shots which is generally a not having legs thing, still deterred at the rim by just being there and actually kept the ball moving for the most part and yeah he was gassed early...as should anyone who hasn't played NBA basketball for months lol.

He is a low key terrible rebounder tho and that needs to be fixed big time. I don't think he likes jumping in crowded spaces and thus just attempts to paw at the ball which probably works against our ass rebounders in practice lol.

as for the calls for trading him, again regardless of your feelings on him it was NEVER going to happen. No one trades a MVP without said MVP wanting out. You go down with the ship every time....if only on the off chance of a fluke run out of nowhere. I am tired of people whining about something that was NEVER going to happen and won't happen unless Biid asks out. So find a new thing to whine about on your 13th alt account for once.

I agree on Joel playing well in his first game back but it seems like most who comment the hate were just basing it off his box score stat instead. And his presence alllow PG to have one of his best performances on the team. It was a better game than the last game where we were very fortunate to win due to so many mistakes. This game was much as we just lost a close game to a better team, so no harm in that.

[Mik317]

we lost because we missed wide open shots

sometimes its really that simple

[WentzerWuver]

we lost because we missed wide open shots

sometimes its really that simple

If we didn't miss open shots, we would be undefeated and so would every other team who can achieve that feat. Missing them are just part of the game.

[WentzerWuver]

I think we will be just fine to start over around Maxey McCain and whoever we will get with our top 4 pick next year. At least It's much much better than most teams who starts their tank mode. Not to mention we still have Joel and Paul either as players or assets.

Maxey and McCain is not a long term backcourt.

Also still not buying McCain. But hopefully he keeps moving his trade value up.

3 years after this of this same damn roster.

Well I wouldn't start him as he should continue to be our spark off the bench. Having the 5 best scorers as our starters makes no sense as defense win games in the end which the Knicks was much better at yesterday. Oubre Jr needs to step up defensively. I know its old news but still wish we'd never traded Mikal on draft night.

[Black Mage]

you'd think so many so called Sixers fans would be used to Ramp Up Embiid games by now lol. I thought despite the numbers he played fine. Didn't really force anything, was simply short on shots which is generally a not having legs thing, still deterred at the rim by just being there and actually kept the ball moving for the most part and yeah he was gassed early...as should anyone who hasn't played NBA basketball for months lol.

He is a low key terrible rebounder tho and that needs to be fixed big time. I don't think he likes jumping in crowded spaces and thus just attempts to paw at the ball which probably works against our ass rebounders in practice lol.

as for the calls for trading him, again regardless of your feelings on him it was NEVER going to happen. No one trades a MVP without said MVP wanting out. You go down with the ship every time....if only on the off chance of a fluke run out of nowhere. I am tired of people whining about something that was NEVER going to happen and won't happen unless Biid asks out. So find a new thing to whine about on your 13th alt account for once.

I agree on Joel playing well in his first game back but it seems like most who comment the hate were just basing it off his box score stat instead. And his presence alllow PG to have one of his best performances on the team. It was a better game than the last game where we were very fortunate to win due to so many mistakes. This game was much as we just lost a close game to a better team, so no harm in that.

To Mik317 - for me it's the lies from the organization. They lied about him being ready at camp; they lied about the plan; they lied that he was "ramping" up these extra 2 weeks so he would be "in game shape and condition to avoid risk of injury." Joel showed up out of condition. It's been nothing but lies and I'm sick of it from the organization. Second, Joel's mindset wasn't great, it's an awful look when you needed 2 extra weeks to show up out of condition and then make demonstrable flailings and stand pouting in the paint while KAT waltzes in for a 2nd O-board and scores. Wasn't the Olympics supposed to give Joel a taste of "winning" mindsets and attitudes?

To Wentz: I watched the whole game. His presence did help the team, no questions about that; but he could have helped more simply by remaining mentally focused. Mental focus and controlling his emotions isn't a conditioning issue, it's been a Joel issue his entire career. Shaq was right, Joel needs to get that mental part straightened out.