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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#221 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed May 14, 2025 7:49 pm

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ProcessDoctor wrote:1. Draft Ace Bailey

2. Trade:

NOP gets: Poetl, RJ, Dick, #9
PHI gets: Zion, Olynyk
TOR gets: Embiid, Oubre

Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Edwards/Gordon
George/Bailey/Council
Zion/(TMLE)/#35
Olynyk/Bona/Drummond


I don't think there's any way in the world TOR trades 9 for Embiid.

I don't think there's any way in the world Morey trades Embiid for 9.


Every move Toronto has made recently suggests they want to win now. I can’t see them trading for Quickley and Ingram, signing them both to large deals and then waiting for the #9 pick to develop. This is another Kawhi opportunity for them.

As for Morey, this is trading Embiid for Zion.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#222 » by Arsenal » Wed May 14, 2025 7:57 pm

I just do not see us getting *anything* for Embiid until he proves he can stay on the court. Trading value for him now is a fireable offense for any GM if he can't get healthy.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#223 » by zaz102 » Wed May 14, 2025 8:05 pm

Arsenal wrote:I just do not see us getting *anything* for Embiid until he proves he can stay on the court. Trading value for him now is a fireable offense for any GM if he can't get healthy.
The real question is if Embiid was playing very well next season, do you/Morey trade him by the deadline for assets/lesser players?
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#224 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed May 14, 2025 8:05 pm

I think us (and NBA fans in general) are more down on Embiids value than front offices are. Think of all the significantly worse contracts that garnered 1st in return (Wall, Westbrook, post-prime Shaq, CP3 when he looked cooked).

You’re telling me that a 31-year-old who won MVP 2 years ago doesn’t even warrant one lotto pick? I just don’t buy it. This is a star driven league, and teams are desperate to get said player at calculated risks. Embiid for a group of role players and a lotto pick is an example of said calculated risk that I think a handful of GMs would take for a chance at star upside.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#225 » by Arsenal » Wed May 14, 2025 8:07 pm

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Arsenal wrote:I just do not see us getting *anything* for Embiid until he proves he can stay on the court. Trading value for him now is a fireable offense for any GM if he can't get healthy.
The real question is if Embiid was playing very well next season, do you/Morey trade him by the deadline for assets/lesser players?


Just can't trust him to stay healthy so I'd pull the trigger on the first *good* offer. Doesn't need to be great, but not a mediocre one either.

Morey OTOH I think would let it ride for the year to take a shot if Embiid is healthy and available.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#226 » by Arsenal » Wed May 14, 2025 8:08 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:I think us (and NBA fans in general) are more down on Embiids value than front offices are. Think of all the significantly worse contracts that garnered 1st in return (Wall, Westbrook, post-prime Shaq, CP3 when he looked cooked).

You’re telling me that a 31-year-old who won MVP 2 years ago doesn’t even warrant one lotto pick? I just don’t buy it. This is a star driven league, and teams are desperate to get said player at calculated risks. Embiid for a group of role players and a lotto pick is an example of said calculated risk that I think a handful of GMs would take for a chance at star upside.


Maybe if there's a desperate GM on the verge of getting fired anyway they'd take the risk. Who fits the bill?
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#227 » by Negrodamus » Wed May 14, 2025 8:13 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:I think us (and NBA fans in general) are more down on Embiids value than front offices are. Think of all the significantly worse contracts that garnered 1st in return (Wall, Westbrook, post-prime Shaq, CP3 when he looked cooked).

You’re telling me that a 31-year-old who won MVP 2 years ago doesn’t even warrant one lotto pick? I just don’t buy it. This is a star driven league, and teams are desperate to get said player at calculated risks. Embiid for a group of role players and a lotto pick is an example of said calculated risk that I think a handful of GMs would take for a chance at star upside.


I think if FO believe in him, ours included, then ours will not give him up since he was an MVP 2 years ago. I think it's pretty binary: we are giving him away because his knee is beyond repair (which no one else will want) or we're keeping him because he's one of the best players in the NBA still and is recovering well from whatever this knee situation is.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#228 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed May 14, 2025 8:24 pm

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ProcessDoctor wrote:I think us (and NBA fans in general) are more down on Embiids value than front offices are. Think of all the significantly worse contracts that garnered 1st in return (Wall, Westbrook, post-prime Shaq, CP3 when he looked cooked).

You’re telling me that a 31-year-old who won MVP 2 years ago doesn’t even warrant one lotto pick? I just don’t buy it. This is a star driven league, and teams are desperate to get said player at calculated risks. Embiid for a group of role players and a lotto pick is an example of said calculated risk that I think a handful of GMs would take for a chance at star upside.


Maybe if there's a desperate GM on the verge of getting fired anyway they'd take the risk. Who fits the bill?


In terms of teams with lotto picks, I could see:

1. NOP (new leadership means making significant changes)
2. TOR (Masai is notorious for buying low, as he did with Kawhi and Ingram)
3. CHI (constantly craving star power, have resisted tanking)
4. ATL (have held on to Tre this long, most difficult team to find matching contracts though)

Beyond that, I wouldn't rule out:
5 - 9. The losers of the KD + Giannis sweepstakes (MIA, HOU, OKC, GSW, and maybe SAS)
10. ORL
11. PHX (would have to be a 3-teamer)
12. LAL

Even if 11 of those teams bow out or go other routes, all it takes is one. Star power is everything in the league. Even if front offices don't 100% believe in the medical or on-court product, they want to sell tickets and bring attention to the team. Tale as old as time. Think of the two big recent Morey trades:

1. Simmons - Sat out for a whole year, attached two 1sts to him and acquired late-prime Harden
2. Harden - Disgruntled, expiring contract with nowhere to go except LAC, and still acquired cap relief, an unprotected 1st, AND an unprotected 1st swap

I'm not buying that Embiid has lower value than either of those players at the time they were traded. Let's stop sounding like the general board with that unrealistic nonsense.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#229 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed May 14, 2025 8:28 pm

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ProcessDoctor wrote:I think us (and NBA fans in general) are more down on Embiids value than front offices are. Think of all the significantly worse contracts that garnered 1st in return (Wall, Westbrook, post-prime Shaq, CP3 when he looked cooked).

You’re telling me that a 31-year-old who won MVP 2 years ago doesn’t even warrant one lotto pick? I just don’t buy it. This is a star driven league, and teams are desperate to get said player at calculated risks. Embiid for a group of role players and a lotto pick is an example of said calculated risk that I think a handful of GMs would take for a chance at star upside.


I think if FO believe in him, ours included, then ours will not give him up since he was an MVP 2 years ago. I think it's pretty binary: we are giving him away because his knee is beyond repair (which no one else will want) or we're keeping him because he's one of the best players in the NBA still and is recovering well from whatever this knee situation is.


I'm not advocating trading Embiid for whatever we can get. I agree that we are also in a pool of teams looking for star upside with him. I'm saying IF we get the opportunity to convert him into Zion in a 2- or 3-team trade, then 100% take it and run. That would be my excuse to trade him, and to try something new with a younger, more explosive core.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#230 » by Arsenal » Wed May 14, 2025 8:30 pm

Zion is the one guy with star potential I could see being somewhat realistic for Embiid. If it's basically Jo plus minor assets for Zion I'm in.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#231 » by the_process » Wed May 14, 2025 10:03 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
the_process wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:1. Draft Ace Bailey

2. Trade:

NOP gets: Poetl, RJ, Dick, #9
PHI gets: Zion, Olynyk
TOR gets: Embiid, Oubre

Maxey/McCain/Butler
Grimes/Edwards/Gordon
George/Bailey/Council
Zion/(TMLE)/#35
Olynyk/Bona/Drummond


I don't think there's any way in the world TOR trades 9 for Embiid.

I don't think there's any way in the world Morey trades Embiid for 9.


Every move Toronto has made recently suggests they want to win now. I can’t see them trading for Quickley and Ingram, signing them both to large deals and then waiting for the #9 pick to develop. This is another Kawhi opportunity for them.

As for Morey, this is trading Embiid for Zion.


I'm all for dealing Embiid. I just don't think it's happening yet.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#232 » by PhillyFan11 » Thu May 15, 2025 2:00 am

Sixers out: Paul George, #3 & #35
Sixers in: Franz Wagner, Keldon Johnson, & #14

Spurs out: De’Aaron Fox, Jeremy Sochan, Keldon Johnson, & #14
Spurs in: Paul George, Goga Bitzade & #3

Magic out: Franz Wagner and Goga Bitzade
Magic in: DeAaron Fox, Jeremy Sochan, & #35
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#233 » by the_process » Thu May 15, 2025 2:49 am

Anthony, Drummond, and 7 to BKN
CJ and Gordon to ORL
Embiid and 3 to NOP
Zion, KCP, and 8' to PHI
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#234 » by 76ciology » Thu May 15, 2025 3:03 am

PhillyFan11 wrote:Sixers out: Paul George, #3 & #35
Sixers in: Franz Wagner, Keldon Johnson, & #14

Spurs out: De’Aaron Fox, Jeremy Sochan, Keldon Johnson, & #14
Spurs in: Paul George, Goga Bitzade & #3

Magic out: Franz Wagner and Goga Bitzade
Magic in: DeAaron Fox, Jeremy Sochan, & #35


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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#235 » by the_process » Thu May 15, 2025 10:03 am

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PhillyFan11 wrote:Sixers out: Paul George, #3 & #35
Sixers in: Franz Wagner, Keldon Johnson, & #14

Spurs out: De’Aaron Fox, Jeremy Sochan, Keldon Johnson, & #14
Spurs in: Paul George, Goga Bitzade & #3

Magic out: Franz Wagner and Goga Bitzade
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While I don’t see the Spurs trading Fox, I’m all in on George and 3 for Franz.

Hell, I’d add McCain to get that done. The Magic would have to add some salary to make it work. Maybe they throw in 16 and/or 25?

George, McCain, and 3 for Franz, Cole Anthony, and 16?

There would be a whole lot of people on the trade board eating a whole lot of crow if that went down.
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Post#236 » by mjkvol » Thu May 15, 2025 12:57 pm

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PhillyFan11 wrote:Sixers out: Paul George, #3 & #35
Sixers in: Franz Wagner, Keldon Johnson, & #14

Spurs out: De’Aaron Fox, Jeremy Sochan, Keldon Johnson, & #14
Spurs in: Paul George, Goga Bitzade & #3

Magic out: Franz Wagner and Goga Bitzade
Magic in: DeAaron Fox, Jeremy Sochan, & #35


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While I don’t see the Spurs trading Fox, I’m all in on George and 3 for Franz.

Hell, I’d add McCain to get that done. The Magic would have to add some salary to make it work. Maybe they throw in 16 and/or 25?

George, McCain, and 3 for Franz, Cole Anthony, and 16?

There would be a whole lot of people on the trade board eating a whole lot of crow if that went down.


I would go for that trade in a second, and Orlando gets a shooter and #3, so it's not the typical heist job we see on here.

I wish everyone would stop with these ridiculous trades sending Embiid or George to places like SA or HOU for valuable young pieces and picks. The last thing those teams need are aging, often hurt loads with max contracts that have 3+ years left. A deal like yours makes sense because Orlando actually gets something it desperately needs plus a premium pick. If George was able to stay relatively healthy he would give them an additional spacer in the frontcourt.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#237 » by PhillyFan11 » Thu May 15, 2025 2:04 pm

the_process wrote:
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PhillyFan11 wrote:Sixers out: Paul George, #3 & #35
Sixers in: Franz Wagner, Keldon Johnson, & #14

Spurs out: De’Aaron Fox, Jeremy Sochan, Keldon Johnson, & #14
Spurs in: Paul George, Goga Bitzade & #3

Magic out: Franz Wagner and Goga Bitzade
Magic in: DeAaron Fox, Jeremy Sochan, & #35


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While I don’t see the Spurs trading Fox, I’m all in on George and 3 for Franz.

Hell, I’d add McCain to get that done. The Magic would have to add some salary to make it work. Maybe they throw in 16 and/or 25?

George, McCain, and 3 for Franz, Cole Anthony, and 16?

There would be a whole lot of people on the trade board eating a whole lot of crow if that went down.


I’m assuming the Magic are looking for a lead guard to pair with Paolo…are they trading Franz unless it’s a guarantee they can get Harper?

That’s where Fox would come in…no idea if the Spurs would trade him or not, but they will be faced with the decision of maxing him out at age 28 after this year. Plus the idea of surrounding Wemby with Vassell, Castle, Harper and Bailey sounds pretty damn fun
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#238 » by the_process » Thu May 15, 2025 2:24 pm

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While I don’t see the Spurs trading Fox, I’m all in on George and 3 for Franz.

Hell, I’d add McCain to get that done. The Magic would have to add some salary to make it work. Maybe they throw in 16 and/or 25?

George, McCain, and 3 for Franz, Cole Anthony, and 16?

There would be a whole lot of people on the trade board eating a whole lot of crow if that went down.


I’m assuming the Magic are looking for a lead guard to pair with Paolo…are they trading Franz unless it’s a guarantee they can get Harper?

That’s where Fox would come in…no idea if the Spurs would trade him or not, but they will be faced with the decision of maxing him out at age 28 after this year. Plus the idea of surrounding Wemby with Vassell, Castle, Harper and Bailey sounds pretty damn fun


The Magic primarily need a shoot/score guard. McCain can do some PG stuff as is, and should continue to improve in that aspect.

I feel like this is a realistic package for Franz.

Also, selfishly, I really want to rub it in the trade board's face. They all think it requires multiple 1sts and taking back bad contracts to dump George. There's no way. He's a name player in a sports entertainment league driven by names.
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Re: 2025 Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#239 » by Negrodamus » Thu May 15, 2025 2:30 pm

Sixers trade:
Maxey
Council
3 pick

Pelicans trade:
Zion
7 pick

Pelicans starts over with their new FO and get the opportunity to draft poor man’s Ingram.

Sixers get the Williamson blessing/curse. Could draft a Fears at 7.
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Post#240 » by PhillyFan11 » Thu May 15, 2025 2:46 pm

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While I don’t see the Spurs trading Fox, I’m all in on George and 3 for Franz.

Hell, I’d add McCain to get that done. The Magic would have to add some salary to make it work. Maybe they throw in 16 and/or 25?

George, McCain, and 3 for Franz, Cole Anthony, and 16?

There would be a whole lot of people on the trade board eating a whole lot of crow if that went down.


I’m assuming the Magic are looking for a lead guard to pair with Paolo…are they trading Franz unless it’s a guarantee they can get Harper?

That’s where Fox would come in…no idea if the Spurs would trade him or not, but they will be faced with the decision of maxing him out at age 28 after this year. Plus the idea of surrounding Wemby with Vassell, Castle, Harper and Bailey sounds pretty damn fun


The Magic primarily need a shoot/score guard. McCain can do some PG stuff as is, and should continue to improve in that aspect.

I feel like this is a realistic package for Franz.

Also, selfishly, I really want to rub it in the trade board's face. They all think it requires multiple 1sts and taking back bad contracts to dump George. There's no way. He's a name player in a sports entertainment league driven by names.


Yeah I don’t know, I think PG probably has some negative value to him RIGHT NOW. Definitely not multiple 1st’s negative though, more like a trade down to offset the contract. But if PG is on the court the 1st 1/2 of next season and is relatively healthy and productive that will change quickly.

I would say the situation we are in with PG isn’t far off from the Zach LaVine situation from last year.

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