Around the League - 2019-2020

[76ciology]

I’ve been following this team here and on social media. I dont hear the management blame others for their fault.

If you listen to EB he even admitted that he is “failing”.

And if im wrong, then both parties should look at themselves before they start blaming others. Because it’s not like Biid is free from faults. One of the reasons we struggled in the regular season because he missed a lot of games and he declined a lot on defense.

Then since the 2018 playoffs, even with Jimmy and JJ, he showed poor conditioning that lead to some crazy bad games. For the last 3 playoff runs, the common theme in losing games down the stretch has been Biid turning the ball over in crunch time.

Parting shots at Brett for not making the roster work and leaks placing blame on him for Jimmy leaving. Deflecting blame onto analytics and the collaborative effort. You must not be paying close enough attention if you've missed what's happened so far.

As for Embiid, he has pretty consistently taken responsibility for his own short comings as well as the team's when they don't perform. He's not out here blaming his trainer for his conditioning.

I might have missed the FO “parting shots at brett for not making the roster work”

Is there actual proof for the bolded part? Ive read this take before but i find it to be more of a speculation.

And again.. like I said there’s no need to blame others when you are part of the reason for the sinking ship.

[Mik317]

Biid legit constantly states that he has to be better after losses. Never throws his teammates under the bus even tho it would be super easy to do so.

AND in his exit interview said that he can't just "be Shaq": and will need to space the floor.

This idea that he avoids any responsibility is just not based in reality. the jimmy tweets are simple subtle shots at the FO. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[youngcrev]

I’ve been following this team here and on social media. I dont hear the management blame others for their fault.

If you listen to EB he even admitted that he is “failing”.

And if im wrong, then both parties should look at themselves before they start blaming others. Because it’s not like Biid is free from faults. One of the reasons we struggled in the regular season because he missed a lot of games and he declined a lot on defense.

Then since the 2018 playoffs, even with Jimmy and JJ, he showed poor conditioning that lead to some crazy bad games. For the last 3 playoff runs, the common theme in losing games down the stretch has been Biid turning the ball over in crunch time.

Parting shots at Brett for not making the roster work and leaks placing blame on him for Jimmy leaving. Deflecting blame onto analytics and the collaborative effort. You must not be paying close enough attention if you've missed what's happened so far.

As for Embiid, he has pretty consistently taken responsibility for his own short comings as well as the team's when they don't perform. He's not out here blaming his trainer for his conditioning.

I might have missed the FO “parting shots at brett for not making the roster work”

Is there actual proof for the bolded part? Ive read this take before but i find it to be more of a speculation.

And again.. like I said there’s no need to blame others when you are part of the reason for the sinking ship.

No, it's speculation based on the timing and who benefits from leaking the information. Regardless, the other part of deflecting blame from my next sentence came straight out of Elton Brand's mouth.

Where has Embiid deflected blame that wasn't speculation on your part?

[76ciology]

Read on Twitter

Pointed out here that Biid maybe the better perimeter shooter in the regular season. AD is just on a different level in the playoffs.

[VDT]

Lol, the sample size is tiny. You cant draw any conclusions from 5 games otherwise Murray and Mitchel are the GOATs.

[76ciology]

Biid legit constantly states that he has to be better after losses. Never throws his teammates under the bus even tho it would be super easy to do so.

AND in his exit interview said that he can't just "be Shaq": and will need to space the floor.

This idea that he avoids any responsibility is just not based in reality. the jimmy tweets are simple subtle shots at the FO. Nothing more. Nothing less.

My point is..

Both FO and Biid admitted their mistakes.


And if the FO makes “subtle shots” on others, then both Biid and the FO are acting wrongly and should stop it because they both underperformed this season.

While both of them should look on how to improve the team this upcoming season.

[76ciology]

Lol, the sample size is tiny. You cant draw any conclusions from 5 games otherwise Murray and Mitchel are the GOATs.

True. Like my post said.. “in the playoffs”.

[stormi]

Yannis will continue to be a nothing player until he develops a post game. Zero moves whatsoever. Time to beg for the Hakeem/Worthy bootcamp.

[stormi]

Lol, the sample size is tiny. You cant draw any conclusions from 5 games otherwise Murray and Mitchel are the GOATs.

True. Like my post said.. “in the playoffs”.

Bubble playoff stats aka an empty gym with no crowd pressure/influence should be taken with a grain of salt.

[Mik317]

Biid legit constantly states that he has to be better after losses. Never throws his teammates under the bus even tho it would be super easy to do so.

AND in his exit interview said that he can't just "be Shaq": and will need to space the floor.

This idea that he avoids any responsibility is just not based in reality. the jimmy tweets are simple subtle shots at the FO. Nothing more. Nothing less.

My point is..

Both FO and Biid admitted their mistakes.


And if the FO makes “subtle shots” on others, then both Biid and the FO are acting wrongly and should stop it because they both underperformed this season.

While both of them should look on how to improve the team this upcoming season.

One "underperformed" thanks to the other.

The other has no such excuse.

You constantly try to defend this FO via placing the blame on others. Embiid is a big fat child who needs to man up with goldbond and probably cannot be the first option on offense going forward. He has to do better and is running out of time to do so. I get that and I agree. Man be out there on qualudes faaaar too often consider himself da bes around. All of that is very much true. However, this FO decided in their grand wisdom that the best course of action was to get rid of all spacing, add another post player and just outhuge teams in 2020 despite the OBVIOUS facts in front of them that it wouldn't work and damn sure not with this team...and they did it via getting rid of their best player's favorite teammates. I am sorry regardless of any stupid macho "da bes player muss over come all odds" ****, that places waaaay more blame on the FO than anything.

I mean you are in here caping for AD when he legit gave up on his past franchise because they failed to put any real pieces around him and he is now enjoying his best life thanks to playing next to LeBron freaking James....

I don't want to be Mr. Defend the star at all cost guy. I **** on the Ben stans all the time for this but I swear some of yall constantly ignore all context to peddle whatever new theory you are on at the time lol. Embiid has to be better. Been saying it for years that he needs to cut back on the burgers before games and move to a more finesse and touch based game ala Tim Duncan rather than Icurus-ing himself to be the next Shaq (who people ignore fell off a cliff as he got older because he was too fat). But even if he did do all of that, that doesn't change the fact that the FO shat the bed with every single one of their moves this offseason. 1 or 2 extra games at the most IMO.

I don't get why this is somehow even an argument point

[76ciology]

Yeah. No point on arguing when both are wrong.

[Bum Adebayo]

Yeah, Embiid admits his responsability, good on him. The problem is that this doesn't make him a better player, he is not what we have in mind if we want a modern team that has a chance to contend for championships.
Yes FO is trash and made so many mistakes. Doesn't change the fact that Embiid is not the solution either, unless you can convince me we can find that on ball scorer that we desperately need while retaining both Embiid and Simmons, it's better to just move on.

[stormi]

What a game.

Genuinely wouldn't trade Tobi for Siakam. He's like a FIBA 40 overall Giannis.

[VDT]

Siakam plays defense at least and is a useful player. Harris is just not a useful player for good teams. Toronto just doesnt have any offensively gifted players so it is an uphill battle against Boston.

[the_process]

I don’t see how Embiid’s tweets are helping him any. They’re passive aggressive and make him look weak as a leader, riding the next man’s coattails. Jimmy’s the star of the Heat, and your team just got swept by our greatest rival. Just come out and say management needs to fix this mess, or trade me.

The way I see Embiid he needs someone to guide him. And he’s a hard person to guide because he only look up to a few people. One of which is Jimmy.

I had to say this but I think not having “veteran leadership” is biting out ass right now. It’s true in Keith Pompey’s article that our guys are treated like stars from day 1 and have lost the sense of accountability.

For instance Ben. When he’s asked to shoot he’ll respond that he’s an allstar.

I know this doesnt make that much sense as an outsider but these guys are living in a much different world than ours. There is a disconnect.

2x All-Star at that, can’t even tell him it was a fluke. Anyway, 100% agreed on this. There probably isn’t a coach that can get through to Ben now. It’s going to have to be another player.

[youngcrev]

I don’t see how Embiid’s tweets are helping him any. They’re passive aggressive and make him look weak as a leader, riding the next man’s coattails. Jimmy’s the star of the Heat, and your team just got swept by our greatest rival. Just come out and say management needs to fix this mess, or trade me.

The way I see Embiid he needs someone to guide him. And he’s a hard person to guide because he only look up to a few people. One of which is Jimmy.

I had to say this but I think not having “veteran leadership” is biting out ass right now. It’s true in Keith Pompey’s article that our guys are treated like stars from day 1 and have lost the sense of accountability.

For instance Ben. When he’s asked to shoot he’ll respond that he’s an allstar.

I know this doesnt make that much sense as an outsider but these guys are living in a much different world than ours. There is a disconnect.

On the contrary, it's one of the few things you've said that has made sense

[youngcrev]

I don’t see how Embiid’s tweets are helping him any. They’re passive aggressive and make him look weak as a leader, riding the next man’s coattails. Jimmy’s the star of the Heat, and your team just got swept by our greatest rival. Just come out and say management needs to fix this mess, or trade me.

The way I see Embiid he needs someone to guide him. And he’s a hard person to guide because he only look up to a few people. One of which is Jimmy.

I had to say this but I think not having “veteran leadership” is biting out ass right now. It’s true in Keith Pompey’s article that our guys are treated like stars from day 1 and have lost the sense of accountability.

For instance Ben. When he’s asked to shoot he’ll respond that he’s an allstar.

I know this doesnt make that much sense as an outsider but these guys are living in a much different world than ours. There is a disconnect.

2x All-Star at that, can’t even tell him it was a fluke. Anyway, 100% agreed on this. There probably isn’t a coach that can get through to Ben now. It’s going to have to be another player.

Yeah. Remember when Jimmy first showed up and Ben wanted to be headband brothers with him? Time to put out the point god signal again

[stormi]

Imagine Siakam trying to twerk on his defender down low with Ben and Jo on the floor. At least Harris can fake space by standing at the 3 point line (even if he won't shoot it when it gets into his hands)

[VDT]

it's not about veteran guidance which we had in the past.

They havent won anything and the organization and fans treated them like they were the next Shaq and kobe, Kareem and Magic etc. They are both spoiled to a degree.

Embiid is immature. At some point he needs to decide if he wants to win or simply to have fun. He is not wrong when he complains about the FO moves and how they fit with him but wasting this year because of that is bad. He is not a child anymore to behave like that.

Simmons is just not coachable at this point. The fact that there is all this discussion about whether he will shoot a three is ridiculous by itself. The fact that he threw his coach under the bus by refusing to do what he was told is even worse. He doesnt mind that he was reduced to roleplayer the last playoffs or that the team played better with TJ two years ago, but he cares whether he will look bad when he misses his 3s.

[Mik317]

Siakam works as a energy guy who works off of the main scorer. He worked better last year when teams didn't scheme for him and paid for it by trying to hide their weaker defenders on him.