Sixers Offseason thread/ sixerfan1976 updated to page 84

[76erStu]

as much as I am ready to see Iggy dealt... # 7 (Henson), D Wright for 1 yr and Jefferson's awful contract is not worth giving up Iggy.

[Mik317]

Krazy will personally kill the entire FO when they pick Henson over Drummond....lol.

I'm not high on Henson either bro.

But it sounds like they are....


lawl..

Rage incoming Thursday.

[JordanMars]

Krazy will personally kill the entire FO when they pick Henson over Drummond....lol.

I'm not high on Henson either bro.

But it sounds like they are....


lawl..

Rage incoming Thursday.

I as well will be heavily dissapointed if they trade up and pick Henson.

[KrazySixersD]

no i will seriously go krazy

i dont even understand how anyone can look at drummond, who is 2 probalby almost 3 years younger than henson, taller, longer, stronger.... and say naw... goin with henson....

i mean first off, unc is greatly coached, and had a lot of great players... uconn was a joke last year...

drummond translates SO MUCH BETTER... and at a position that you dont even have to have offense come from...

at PF you need some level of offense unless you are getting it from your center which we obviously dont have

hell i wouldnt be mad if they went drummond at 7 and moultrie at 15... we would be set in the post for a long time... moultrie seems like a really really raw version of amare stoudemire.... obviously hes 3 years older than amare was coming into the league, which is why he is not near as good as amare... but his game reminds me of him

im still drummond, lamb, pj3 in that order... we better come out with atleast one of those dudes

[Kova]

thanks for the update sf!

Ok, I like the initiative from our FO, they seem to be way more aggressive than in past years.. But I doubt the reasoning and approach..
Didn't they say that they are in the win now mode??
If Iggy to GSW or TOR goes through, we are obviously aiming to get 7/8 th pick and keep our 15th..

With young core of Holiday, Turner, Young, Allen, you then add 2 rookies at 7th and 15th, and you are basically in rebuilding mode again..

So that's kind of confusing to me.. If anyone cares to elaborate, please..

[corwin]

I really, really would not want Richard Jefferson's contract on the books. That would be the worst possible scenario.

me either really but i like dorell wright so i am torn

at least they are looking at creative ways to try and make an impact.

Why does his contract matter so much? He makes less than Iggy, matter fact if you add Jeffersons contract with the number 7 pick 1t would be about the same or slightly higher than Iggys.

I still see it as a win win. We can get a replacement for iggy at 7 and not lose him for nothing in a year. Oh and Jefferson expires in 2014, the same year as Iggys

Not sure where to weigh in on this thread so I thought this would be as good a place as any. I have no problem taking Jefferson or Biedrins for that matter if the player they want at 7 projects as a future starter. I think we can also get someone at 15 with that level of talent. Two more core pieces just about rebuilds this team. Jefferson still can play a little & wouldn't hurt this team. Biedrins I'm not so sure. I am sure that we won't be a championship team next year, so the salaries of either guy won't hurt us.

[BarkleyFan]

Here's the thing with John Henson - he is an elite rebounder and shot blocker. These two things will always translate to the NBA. Trading away your best defensive player, we will be replacing him with a great defensive player but at a different position. Henson led the ACC in both rebounding and blocked shots and was the ACC defensive player of the year twice. He also runs great and can guard smaller players. He does give up post position some because of his lack of strength but it still is hard to shoot over him even with great position.

As a freshman, he was horrible offensively, and has gotten better and better and will continue to do so as he gains weight and adds strength, which he eventually will.

Many people forget he was hurt during the NCAA tournament with a thumb injury. He basically couldn't shoot or catch the ball without pain. So if that's all you saw him play you are missing out. The Sixers and a lot of other teams apparently love him and with good reason. He COMPLETELY shut down CJ Leslie of NC State last year, who a lot of people think will be a lottery pick next season. By shut down I mean the kid could barely get a shot off. Go back and watch the UNC - Kentucky game. Anthony Davis is only slightly better than Henson on the defensive end, he is a good bit ahead of Henson offensively. He is not as good as Anthony Davis, but the point is many of the same reasons people love Anthony Davis are the same reasons NBA people have such high interest in John Henson.

You guys that want to take a gamble and try to get really good in the future, Henson will allow you to do that because he is such a good defender and rebounder you can add an Al Jefferson type in the future (I know you can't trade Iguodala for both Jefferson and Henson) because you have a difference maker protecting the rim so you can acquire more offensive oriented players moving forward.

[Chamberlainship]

Great to hear the interest in Andre is out there. Thanks to those with unc knowledge that have given the Henson scouting report. I'm liking what I'm reading. If they really want to trade iggy, i'd still rather get a guy we know can play at this level like millsap (and to a lesser extent al Jefferson, the knee scares me). Adding some sweetener is ok to get this deal right. A failure here would hurt the franchise.

Hard to believe that they'd pass on Drummond if they traded up and he was there (doubt he will be). Do they even plan to bring him in for a workout? You'd think if they got the 7th pick that'd be part of their due dilligence.

[Kobblehead]

Here's the thing with John Henson - he is an elite rebounder and shot blocker. These two things will always translate to the NBA. Trading away your best defensive player, we will be replacing him with a great defensive player but at a different position. Henson led the ACC in both rebounding and blocked shots and was the ACC defensive player of the year twice. He also runs great and can guard smaller players. He does give up post position some because of his lack of strength but it still is hard to shoot over him even with great position.

As a freshman, he was horrible offensively, and has gotten better and better and will continue to do so as he gains weight and adds strength, which he eventually will.

Many people forget he was hurt during the NCAA tournament with a thumb injury. He basically couldn't shoot or catch the ball without pain. So if that's all you saw him play you are missing out. The Sixers and a lot of other teams apparently love him and with good reason. He COMPLETELY shut down CJ Leslie of NC State last year, who a lot of people think will be a lottery pick next season. By shut down I mean the kid could barely get a shot off. Go back and watch the UNC - Kentucky game. Anthony Davis is only slightly better than Henson on the defensive end, he is a good bit ahead of Henson offensively. He is not as good as Anthony Davis, but the point is many of the same reasons people love Anthony Davis are the same reasons NBA people have such high interest in John Henson.

You guys that want to take a gamble and try to get really good in the future, Henson will allow you to do that because he is such a good defender and rebounder you can add an Al Jefferson type in the future (I know you can't trade Iguodala for both Jefferson and Henson) because you have a difference maker protecting the rim so you can acquire more offensive oriented players moving forward.

Appreciate the write-up, but John Henson is not an elite rebounder and his decent rebounding will most likely be downgraded to average or sub-par at the next level given his pathetic frame.

[Do the Jrue]

Would these trades not go completely against the grain as far Collins demand that he didn't wanna get younger and go through another rebuild type process? I've heard from people that he has insisted that he wants to win now since he won't be coaching much longer. He had the #2 pick in the draft ride the bench most of his first year, I don't think he's going to change his ways. If we're going completely young with an entire team of 19-24 year olds with a ton of potential than I don't think Collins is the man for this job and I could see him stepping down quickly to let Curry coach and Collins take over in the front office.

[BarkleyFan]

Here's the thing with John Henson - he is an elite rebounder and shot blocker. These two things will always translate to the NBA. Trading away your best defensive player, we will be replacing him with a great defensive player but at a different position. Henson led the ACC in both rebounding and blocked shots and was the ACC defensive player of the year twice. He also runs great and can guard smaller players. He does give up post position some because of his lack of strength but it still is hard to shoot over him even with great position.

As a freshman, he was horrible offensively, and has gotten better and better and will continue to do so as he gains weight and adds strength, which he eventually will.

Many people forget he was hurt during the NCAA tournament with a thumb injury. He basically couldn't shoot or catch the ball without pain. So if that's all you saw him play you are missing out. The Sixers and a lot of other teams apparently love him and with good reason. He COMPLETELY shut down CJ Leslie of NC State last year, who a lot of people think will be a lottery pick next season. By shut down I mean the kid could barely get a shot off. Go back and watch the UNC - Kentucky game. Anthony Davis is only slightly better than Henson on the defensive end, he is a good bit ahead of Henson offensively. He is not as good as Anthony Davis, but the point is many of the same reasons people love Anthony Davis are the same reasons NBA people have such high interest in John Henson.

You guys that want to take a gamble and try to get really good in the future, Henson will allow you to do that because he is such a good defender and rebounder you can add an Al Jefferson type in the future (I know you can't trade Iguodala for both Jefferson and Henson) because you have a difference maker protecting the rim so you can acquire more offensive oriented players moving forward.

Appreciate the write-up, but John Henson is not an elite rebounder and his decent rebounding will most likely be downgraded to average or sub-par at the next level given his pathetic frame.

Well he averaged over 10 rebounds a game, 3 offensive rebounds a game. You can argue excellent versus very good rebounder, but don't really see where he would be average to sub-par.

[Gsraider]

i dont even understand how anyone can look at drummond, who is 2 probalby almost 3 years younger than henson, taller, longer, stronger.... and say naw... goin with henson....

While you may kill yourself and others if they make a deal like this and take Henson, I'm still among the grouping that does not see Drummond falling to #7 anyway. I think PHI would have to trade with Sacramento to even have a chance for him and I'm not sure he'll be there at 5. You may go crazy, but I don't think it will be because PHI takes Henson instead of Drummond. That would drive me crazy too, but I doubt it will be an issue. Beyond that, it's in the hands of the FO and no one really cares what we think other than inside this forum.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Well i'm not high on Terrence Ross.. Henson and Ross would be a bust for me.
Henson and Perry Jones would be a hit
Drummond and Austin Rivers would be a home run
Henson and Rivers and i'm excited
Waiters and Perry Jones is a hit.

[JrueGrit11]

SixerFan,

Besides this board I have seen a couple other places online saying that the Sixers were very impressed with Henson's workout and are considering a move into top 10 (with GSW or TOR) to grab him. Where did this rumor originate, can't seem to find the source? And did the Sixers actually come out and say they were really impressed by Henson? Thanks.

[freshie2]

Henson's length and build has always reminded me of Sheed...Sheed is much more talented, and Henson much more athletic, but the thing that really impressed me was his interview...really seems to have a muture/global perspective on himself and the process. He's not as skilled as Sheed, but if his range starts @ 20 feet now, and can extend to the 3 point line, then he's a tremendous PF skillset. The attitude fits with what DC would seem to want, and his length/shotblocking/rebounding is something that would translate as well. Needs to get bigger, but I think he has added strength through his years @ UNC and should be fine in that regard moving forward.

[Mik317]

Yes his interview was pretty good.

Must have charmed Collins.


I guess he wants a guy who won't cut himself for once...lol.

[sixerfan1976]

Yeah i really feel like they are after henson more so than drummond. Gsw and toronto the targets in a tradeup. They want to keep fifteen in either scenario. Ross or rivers is the 15 target and would trade up again to nab one potentially. Gonna be active draft, i am excited

[JordanMars]

I just dont see us trading Iggy for a draft pick. Does Doug really wanto develop another player??

Dont understand why we would like Henson more than Drummond

[sixerfan1976]

cant see how good turner can be without andre somewhere else is the feeling i get. i still think they look at jefferson or gasol(if still avail) if a trade up doesnt occur. there are alot of teams that are luke warm on drummond. we werent at workouts yesterday...they saw something they like in henson........

[JordanMars]

cant see how good turner can be without andre somewhere else is the feeling i get. i still think they look at jefferson or gasol(if still avail) if a trade up doesnt occur. there are alot of teams that are luke warm on drummond. we werent at workouts yesterday...they saw something they like in henson........

If we get Henson, would we maybe keep Brand and keep him at center. There arent too many free agent options there.