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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#241 » by KramerDSP » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:44 pm

the_process wrote:How in the world did it get to this point? We hired Glenn Rivers and Daryl Morey to get rid of the stench of the clown show. And it’s somehow gotten worse? How the **** did Maxey get dragged into this?? What the holy **** is going on???

This team is going to be Embiid and Harris and ****. There’s zero point to that.


Might as well do Tobias for CJ.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#242 » by Black Mage » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:45 pm

Mik317 wrote:we are going to **** this up

and Weak Boi is going to thrive elsewhere and Raptors and Ben Stans are going to flood the board.


I hate it here


Unless Ben is seeing a shrink, he ain't going to change.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#243 » by Tomjas » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:47 pm

KramerDSP wrote:
the_process wrote:How in the world did it get to this point? We hired Glenn Rivers and Daryl Morey to get rid of the stench of the clown show. And it’s somehow gotten worse? How the **** did Maxey get dragged into this?? What the holy **** is going on???

This team is going to be Embiid and Harris and ****. There’s zero point to that.


Might as well do Tobias for CJ.


Portland got Nance so don’t need Tobias
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#244 » by Black Mage » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:48 pm

IceManBK1 wrote:maxey, beasley, Reid, layman, okogie, two lotto protected 1sts and one 2nd to Toronto

Dragic and Siakam to Philly

Simmons to Min

I think you guys would be happy with Dragic and Siakam..Dragic can still play at a high level. And Siakam is an allstar level player that Morey craved. And he can stretch the floor for embiid. Maybe you guys can get some picks also.


I got a better idea.

Edwards, McDaniels and Beasley plus 3 firsts unprotected

Simmons and a new PS5 so he and KAT can play games all night long.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#245 » by KramerDSP » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:48 pm

Black Mage wrote:
Mik317 wrote:we are going to **** this up

and Weak Boi is going to thrive elsewhere and Raptors and Ben Stans are going to flood the board.


I hate it here


Unless Ben is seeing a shrink, he ain't going to change.


Trying to think of the instances where an all star whose mentality was questioned, and was traded and went on to make a leap into an all time great. Honestly, the first guys I think of regarding their mentality are Derrick Coleman and Chris Webber. Both of them were all time great talents, but not necessarily all time great players. The only way Simmons gets there is if he turns the entire city of Philadelphia into his own personal Ivan Drago. Otherwise, as soon as he starts missing freebies and the away/home crowds start chirping/murmuring loudly, he’s toast and cannot be played in the closing minutes of the playoff games when it counts.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#246 » by KramerDSP » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:52 pm

I was already pissed at him when he had an 8-11-8 line at the half and DIDNT END UP WITH THE TRIPLE DOUBLE!! How the he** did we lose that game?!?
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#247 » by Black Mage » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:52 pm

the_process wrote:How in the world did it get to this point? We hired Glenn Rivers and Daryl Morey to get rid of the stench of the clown show. And it’s somehow gotten worse? How the **** did Maxey get dragged into this?? What the holy **** is going on???

This team is going to be Embiid and Harris and ****. There’s zero point to that.


Because you forgot to get rid of the hall of mirrors and smoke machine known as Ben Simmons who has been the main reason we keep losing in the playoffs because his "skills" are all smoke and mirrors regular season stat padding.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#248 » by TYO23 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:53 pm

Main reason we ended up here is because 25 refused to improve offensively. Yet Rich and Klutch are making it like we did 25 dirty. The new NBA…
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#249 » by Black Mage » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:55 pm

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the_process wrote:How in the world did it get to this point? We hired Glenn Rivers and Daryl Morey to get rid of the stench of the clown show. And it’s somehow gotten worse? How the **** did Maxey get dragged into this?? What the holy **** is going on???

This team is going to be Embiid and Harris and ****. There’s zero point to that.


Morey has been trying to trade Ben since Harden became available and Paul has finally had enough

That’s how we got here

Read on Twitter


Give it a rest you freaking Ben Stan. Ben forced everyone's hand when he was scared to death to play the sport he gets paid $30+ million to play.

Ben's wittle feelings are as much hurt by Doc and Joel's post-game comments when all they did was admit the truth.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#250 » by Slick SickSir » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:57 pm

Those of you asking how we got here crack me up

Have you been asleep the last 5 years? EVERY SIGN pointed here for years. Morey is a clown as is this entire organization for not seeing the signs that a few of us saw a long time ago
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#251 » by Black Mage » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:57 pm

KramerDSP wrote:
Black Mage wrote:
Mik317 wrote:we are going to **** this up

and Weak Boi is going to thrive elsewhere and Raptors and Ben Stans are going to flood the board.


I hate it here


Unless Ben is seeing a shrink, he ain't going to change.


Trying to think of the instances where an all star whose mentality was questioned, and was traded and went on to make a leap into an all time great. Honestly, the first guys I think of regarding their mentality are Derrick Coleman and Chris Webber. Both of them were all time great talents, but not necessarily all time great players. The only way Simmons gets there is if he turns the entire city of Philadelphia into his own personal Ivan Drago. Otherwise, as soon as he starts missing freebies and the away/home crowds start chirping/murmuring loudly, he’s toast and cannot be played in the closing minutes of the playoff games when it counts.


Except Ben has already shown that once he thinks he's made a point once, he just reverts back to coast mode. Like when he feels snubbed by all-star vote so he actually visibly changed his style of play but once he made the team he reverted b/c he felt he "showed them."
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#252 » by Slick SickSir » Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:58 pm

This franchise and every single one of you that have ever defended ben deserve this

The few of us that clamored about this EXACT doomsday years ago do not deserve it
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#253 » by cool93 » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:00 am

Slick SickSir wrote:This franchise and every single one of you that have ever defended ben deserve this

The few of us that clamored about this EXACT doomsday years ago do not deserve it


You need to chill man
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#254 » by the_process » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:02 am

Black Mage wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:maxey, beasley, Reid, layman, okogie, two lotto protected 1sts and one 2nd to Toronto

Dragic and Siakam to Philly

Simmons to Min

I think you guys would be happy with Dragic and Siakam..Dragic can still play at a high level. And Siakam is an allstar level player that Morey craved. And he can stretch the floor for embiid. Maybe you guys can get some picks also.


I got a better idea.

Edwards, McDaniels and Beasley plus 3 firsts unprotected

Simmons and a new PS5 so he and KAT can play games all night long.


You’d be extremely lucky to get Edwards and Prince at this point from Minnesota. Of course Rich Paul will be lobbying against it.

I pray Klutch loses their lawsuit to Noel. Rich owes that man some cash.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#255 » by ensergiog » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:05 am

Slick SickSir wrote:This franchise and every single one of you that have ever defended ben deserve this

The few of us that clamored about this EXACT doomsday years ago do not deserve it


Damn, you're right.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#256 » by Stanford » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:08 am

If your premise is that Ben Simmons is a negative player, this is not doomsday.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#257 » by the_process » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:13 am

Mik317 wrote:Rivers and Morey have clownshoes tendencies too.

Rivers has had some pretty rocky locker rooms and Houston wasn't exactly paradise either.

Then there is the fact that many of the same dudes are still lurking in the shadows....and own the team.

we are **** regardless.


Might just be time to rebuild again. No one else is doing it, so you can certainly get ahead of the class on the 2022 draft.

Maybe you get Jo to agree to an injury? Go the Spurs route where Robinson was hurt for the year, tank it up and draft Duncan.

Or maybe you just trade him. After signing that extension, Morey can actually get one of those packages for Jo he was looking to deal Ben for.

There’s zero upside to this team if Simmons is traded for nothing and Maxey follows him out the door.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#258 » by Tomjas » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:14 am

Black Mage wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
the_process wrote:How in the world did it get to this point? We hired Glenn Rivers and Daryl Morey to get rid of the stench of the clown show. And it’s somehow gotten worse? How the **** did Maxey get dragged into this?? What the holy **** is going on???

This team is going to be Embiid and Harris and ****. There’s zero point to that.


Morey has been trying to trade Ben since Harden became available and Paul has finally had enough

That’s how we got here

Read on Twitter


Give it a rest you freaking Ben Stan. Ben forced everyone's hand when he was scared to death to play the sport he gets paid $30+ million to play.

Ben's wittle feelings are as much hurt by Doc and Joel's post-game comments when all they did was admit the truth.


Seems like you’re the one whose feelings are hurt

I have long predicted that Ben wouldn’t be back
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#259 » by Black Mage » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:20 am

Tomjas wrote:
Black Mage wrote:
Tomjas wrote:
Morey has been trying to trade Ben since Harden became available and Paul has finally had enough

That’s how we got here

Read on Twitter


Give it a rest you freaking Ben Stan. Ben forced everyone's hand when he was scared to death to play the sport he gets paid $30+ million to play.

Ben's wittle feelings are as much hurt by Doc and Joel's post-game comments when all they did was admit the truth.


Seems like you’re the one whose feelings are hurt

I have long predicted that Ben wouldn’t be back


Why wouldn't I be upset when I support my team and the player. I paid money for tix, I bought products and Simmons jerseys. I have every right to be ticked off when a self-entitled primadonna declares he won't play for my team when he hasn't given two s***s to actually work on his weaknesses and insulted all of us by claiming he didn't need to and then disappears the way he did killing our best shot at a title. Damn right I'm upset!

But that doesn't excuse your claims that Morey is somehow the impetus for this when it's pretty clear that Joel's and Doc's post-game comments played as much a part of this and that Ben really has no one to blame for his situation other than himself.
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Re: Ben Simmons Trade Thread Part 4 

Post#260 » by stormi » Wed Sep 1, 2021 12:30 am

the_process wrote:
Mik317 wrote:Rivers and Morey have clownshoes tendencies too.

Rivers has had some pretty rocky locker rooms and Houston wasn't exactly paradise either.

Then there is the fact that many of the same dudes are still lurking in the shadows....and own the team.

we are **** regardless.


Might just be time to rebuild again. No one else is doing it, so you can certainly get ahead of the class on the 2022 draft.

Maybe you get Jo to agree to an injury? Go the Spurs route where Robinson was hurt for the year, tank it up and draft Duncan.

Or maybe you just trade him. After signing that extension, Morey can actually get one of those packages for Jo he was looking to deal Ben for.

There’s zero upside to this team if Simmons is traded for nothing and Maxey follows him out the door.


I would support a one year tank. Claim Jo needs surgery, let Reed Maxey Springer Thybulle and Joe develop through trial by fire. Trade Ben off for futures or a core young player.

Come back for '22-'23 with a revitalized MVP Embiid + Banchero, Maxey, Springer, Thybulle, Ben assets, Reed + whatever happens with Curry & Harris.

Embiid wins his Dirk style chip in the next three years. We all live happily ever after.

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