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Post#2421 » by freshie2 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:14 am

Who are the three first round picks? Anyone in particular?
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Post#2422 » by Rnd Mnd of Rbnd » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:25 am

freshie2 wrote:Who are the three first round picks? Anyone in particular?


Eh, it's hard to say without knowing how the other teams pick, but ideally #24 would be Doron Lamb or John Jenkins. And between #8 and #15, one would be a wing and the other a PF/C.
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Post#2423 » by sixerswillrule » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:38 am

I like Doron Lamb as a Lou/Meeks replacement, if we acquire a late 1st.
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Post#2424 » by Mik317 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:14 am

FO probably would be against 3 first round contracts. Doug would be against 3 rookies. Too many to hate.
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Post#2425 » by Rnd Mnd of Rbnd » Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:52 am

eliasrapp98 wrote:What if I just take out Ibaka completely, and replace him with Thabo?


It's better, but I just think it's unrealistic. And I don't even think I like it from the Sixers' standpoint. I don't want to see our two best players suiting up for Celts next season, and a Westbrook/Turner backcourt makes me shudder.
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Post#2426 » by KrazySixersD » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:41 pm

eliasrapp98 wrote:One quick note: This trade relies on the Celtics wanting to rebuild around players other than Rondo and the Thunder wanting to save a little bit of cap and get a better fit than Westbrook and Durant.

THE TRADE

BOS:
IN: Andre Igoudala (14), Jrue Holliday (2.6), Serge Ibaka (2.2)
OUT: Rajon Rondo (11) and #22

CAP: +7.8

OKC:
IN: Rajon Rondo (11), Nic Vucevic (1.7), #22
OUT: Russell Westbrook (15) and Serge Ibaka (2.2)

CAP: -4.5

PHL:
IN: Russell Westbrook (15)
OUT: Andre Igoudala (14), Jrue Holliday (2.6), and Nic Vucevic (1.7)

CAP: -2.7

THE REASONS

BOSTON: If Boston really wants to get rid of Rajon Rondo for young players (and one vet) than this works out well for them. Boston gets a young PG who showed lots of promise the year before, also on a cheap contract, one of the best young PFs in the league who is a shot block specialist and is also on a cheap deal, and veteran Andre Igoudala who's perimeter defense is second to none. They would have a good young core with two old veterans leading the way in Andre Igoudala and Paul Pierce. If they resigned Bass, they would not only have a great front court, but a strong backcourt to go with it too.

THUNDER: Like Boston, the Thunder might decide to part ways with their young PG. The reason being, Westbrook last year took more shots than the second best player in the league, Kevin Durant. The Thunder have a very complete team right now, but are facing salary cap troubles. Since they must resign James Harden and Serge Ibaka, one or two players have to go. As much as parting ways with Ibaka sucks, it is a necessary evil. This way the Thunder save cap space and can extend James Harden to a lengthy, rich contract. They are also getting back, arguably, the best PG in the league. Rondo is a true PG. He nearly averages a double-double every game! He is the kind of player that can score with layups and of course, dish the ball out to Durant. They are also getting a second year center that looked really good when Spencer Hawes went down. The Thunder instantly become a better team in my opinion.

SIXERS: The Sixers probably make out the best from this deal, but that doesn't mean the deal doesn't make sense. Every team gets what they want, just the Sixers give up seemingly less. The Sixers are trading Iggy, Holliday, and Vuc for a top notch, young PG. There really is not much to it. They instantly become better and save cap space (not much). If they were to now let Lou walk and Amnesty Brand, then they would have lots of cap space. The Sixers are only left with Thad Young, Evan Turner, and Russell Westbrook after this deal, meaning they must go on a FA spree.

FREE AGENCY AFTER TRADE

BOSTON: They now have around 20 million in cap space to dish out. They have their PG, SG, SF, and PF, but no center. I believe they resign Brandon Bass to 4 years/28 million (2012: 6 million, 2013: 7 million, 2014: 7 million, 2015: 8 million). Now they have 14 million. I do not think that they would resign Ray Allen or Kevin Garnett. I actually think they would sign Lou WIlliams to 4 years/32 million (2012: 7 million, 2013: 8 million, 2014: 8 million, 2015: 9 million). Because they no longer have a great shooter, besides the aging Paul Pierce, they must find a pure shooter. Who better than the long time Sixer, Lou Williams. He may not play good defense... at all... but he provides scoring off the bench, something every team wants, and what's better than taking a player from you rival. Nothing. At this point I believe they sign minimal contracts to fill in depth.

OKC: The Thunder really would not have too much money after this to make a splash in FA, but they could use all their savings to resign James Harden. They basically only have 4.5 million in cap, but I predict they trade away a collection of Thabo and Aldrich for picks to save money. Now that they have Rondo, Thabo does not need to start, because they have less shooters. That makes him a little more expendable. They would then save 6 million. Add that to 4.5 and that is 10.5 million. Enough to extend James Harden to a 5 year/75 million dollar deal (2012: 13 million, 2013: 14 million, 2014: 15 million, 2015: 16 million, 2016: 17 million). That basically wipes out their whole cap.

SIXERS: The Sixers would be the most interesting team to watch in this deal, because they would have 32 million to spend after this deal. I foresee them signing a whole bunch of players. First, I see them signing Steve Nash to a 3 year/30 million dollar deal (2012: 9 million, 2013: 10 million, 2014: 11 million). The reason being, he can play point and push Westbrook out to SG. He is great distributer, like Rondo and is a savvy veteran. He would want to play for us, because we would now have a star. While I think that signing Roy Hibbert is next to imposible, I can see them snatching Brook Lopez and putting him on a 4 year/40 million dollar deal (2012: 9 million, 2013: 10 million, 2014: 10 million, 2015: 11 million). He provides scoring in the low post. The Sixers still have 14 million to spend now. I see them first getting a PF. What better than snatching up the Celtic's PF, Kevin Garnett. He will not be making the insane 21 million that he made in 2012. I can see him making around 11 million though. I would offer him a 3 year/33 million dollar deal (2012: 10 million, 2013: 11 million, 2014: 12 million). He would want to play on a winning team. Why not play for the Sixers? Now with 4 million dollars left, resign Lavoy Allen (2 million) and Jodie Meeks (500,000) and sign Kirk Hinrich (2 million). Also sign the #15 pick.

THE ROSTERS

BOSTON:

PG: Jrue Holliday, Lou WIlliams
SG: Andre Igoudala, Avery Bradley
SF: Paul Pierce, Andre Igoudala
PF: Serge Ibaka, Greg Steisma
C: Brandon Bass, #21

OKC:

PG: Rajon Rondo, Royal Ivy
SG: James Harden, Daquan Cook
SF: Kevin Durant, Lazar Hayward
PF: Nick Collison, #22
C: Kendrick Perkins, Nic Vucevic

PHL:

PG: Steve Nash, Kirk Hinrich
SG: Russell Westbrook, Jodie Meeks
SF: Evan Turner, #15
PF: Kevin Garnett, Thad Young
C: Brook Lopez, Lavoy Allen


you cant possibly think rondo is worth that much?
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Post#2427 » by Kobblehead » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:54 pm

Knux-Future wrote:FO probably would be against 3 first round contracts. Doug would be against 3 rookies. Too many to hate.


He's going to have to get used to it because with only a handful and players under contract and 2 2nd round picks this year, he's going to have multiple rookies anyway.
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Re: Fantasy trade thread: new trade threads merged to here 

Post#2428 » by Mik317 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:10 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Knux-Future wrote:FO probably would be against 3 first round contracts. Doug would be against 3 rookies. Too many to hate.


He's going to have to get used to it because with only a handful and players under contract and 2 2nd round picks this year, he's going to have multiple rookies anyway.


Then he's gonna have to train on getting more hatred then...lol.


But 2nd rounders is fine from the FO POV as they aren't guaranteed.

3 1st rounders isn't as lkely...
besides I doubt they want to blow it up. Adding that much youth to an already young team is basically saying that...even if that's probably the best option.
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