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Re: 2016 NBA Draft/College Basketball Thread 

Post#261 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Nov 3, 2015 3:56 am

Negrodamus wrote:
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Negrodamus wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taf3xUTzazM[/youtube]


Murray is a legit scoring talent. He would be a live savior for Oak and Noel.


I think we win it all this year because of Murray. He is the guard we needed last year. Near triple double today.


Nov 17th is going to be a fun game. You guys are stacked like every year. But ya Murray is a game changer, even more so than Skal
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Post#262 » by Kobblehead » Tue Nov 3, 2015 4:11 am

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Kobblehead wrote:I can't wait for this season to start. Gonna be another fun year of scouting talent knowing that we have so many 1st rounders.

I'm ready to actually have a good team to root for!

I'm excited to see if Melo Trimble has added to his game.
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Post#263 » by ImChillin01 » Tue Nov 3, 2015 8:58 am

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I know it sucks to hear, but if I was a 76ers fan, I would be hoping to tank this year and next. That should mean 3 top 10 draft picks probably over the next 2 years. Hopefully you guys can get two wing players and a point. Noel would only be 23 at the start of the 17 season, so you guys would still be very young

This should be final year of tank for 76ers. I know 2017 class is supposed to be special and 2016 class is supposed to be weak, which I find hilarious to hear people say this before they even play college game. But if 76ers are still bottom 5 team in 2016-17 ssn, then development of the team is failing. Cant be bad for that long or you end up like Early 00s Clippers or Mid 00s Bobcats. 76ers also got Kings pick next year, with the Kings you never know how good or bad they'll be. They can also still trade Cousins if someone gives them great offer


I think it would be worth it to be bad for one more year to get one of the top 5-7 guys in 17. And people say that 17 is the better draft class because the Sophomores were clearly better than the Juniors.

I dont think it'll be worth it at all. 76ers have Kings pick that could end up in top 5-8. Unless theres generational talent in 2017 draft class, then I dont see point. Get top 3 pick to hurt the development of team to get who? Harry Giles but already have Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric. Josh Jackson or Jayson Tatum? Could potentially draft Simmons, Ingram, Brown. Now I know draft is loaded with PGs, could be deepest PG class since 09. Smith, Fox, Fultz, Nitikila & Thorton and maybe 76ers find their PG with their own pick at #8-12. But 76ers could find PG in next year class with four 1sts.

I rather see team develop and let pieces fall where it may
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Post#264 » by tsmith » Tue Nov 3, 2015 9:16 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taf3xUTzazM[/youtube]


Murray is a legit scoring talent. He would be a live savior for Oak and Noel.

the gut on #32 or whatever ahahahaha
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Post#265 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Nov 3, 2015 10:31 am

ImChillin01 wrote:
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ImChillin01 wrote:This should be final year of tank for 76ers. I know 2017 class is supposed to be special and 2016 class is supposed to be weak, which I find hilarious to hear people say this before they even play college game. But if 76ers are still bottom 5 team in 2016-17 ssn, then development of the team is failing. Cant be bad for that long or you end up like Early 00s Clippers or Mid 00s Bobcats. 76ers also got Kings pick next year, with the Kings you never know how good or bad they'll be. They can also still trade Cousins if someone gives them great offer


I think it would be worth it to be bad for one more year to get one of the top 5-7 guys in 17. And people say that 17 is the better draft class because the Sophomores were clearly better than the Juniors.

I dont think it'll be worth it at all. 76ers have Kings pick that could end up in top 5-8. Unless theres generational talent in 2017 draft class, then I dont see point. Get top 3 pick to hurt the development of team to get who? Harry Giles but already have Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric. Josh Jackson or Jayson Tatum? Could potentially draft Simmons, Ingram, Brown. Now I know draft is loaded with PGs, could be deepest PG class since 09. Smith, Fox, Fultz, Nitikila & Thorton and maybe 76ers find their PG with their own pick at #8-12. But 76ers could find PG in next year class with four 1sts.

I rather see team develop and let pieces fall where it may


And I think there is generational talent in the 17 draft. Josh Jackson is a more skilled Andrew Wiggins but the dude has a killer mentality. The gap between Jayson Tatum and say Simmons or Ingram is huge. The gap between Dunn and say Dennis Smith jr is massive. Again Skal or Simmons wouldn't go top 5 if they went in the 17 draft. There are about 5 truly elite talents in the 17 draft
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Post#266 » by Ericb5 » Tue Nov 3, 2015 5:37 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
ImChillin01 wrote:
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I think it would be worth it to be bad for one more year to get one of the top 5-7 guys in 17. And people say that 17 is the better draft class because the Sophomores were clearly better than the Juniors.

I dont think it'll be worth it at all. 76ers have Kings pick that could end up in top 5-8. Unless theres generational talent in 2017 draft class, then I dont see point. Get top 3 pick to hurt the development of team to get who? Harry Giles but already have Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric. Josh Jackson or Jayson Tatum? Could potentially draft Simmons, Ingram, Brown. Now I know draft is loaded with PGs, could be deepest PG class since 09. Smith, Fox, Fultz, Nitikila & Thorton and maybe 76ers find their PG with their own pick at #8-12. But 76ers could find PG in next year class with four 1sts.

I rather see team develop and let pieces fall where it may


And I think there is generational talent in the 17 draft. Josh Jackson is a more skilled Andrew Wiggins but the dude has a killer mentality. The gap between Jayson Tatum and say Simmons or Ingram is huge. The gap between Dunn and say Dennis Smith jr is massive. Again Skal or Simmons wouldn't go top 5 if they went in the 17 draft. There are about 5 truly elite talents in the 17 draft



I don't know much about the guys in the 2017 draft class, but it is an established pattern for people to think that the players in highschool are going to be better than the current crop of freshmen.

2 years ago Cliff Alexander was supposed to be great, and then he fizzled in college. Andrew Harrison was supposed to be a high lottery pick. I'm not saying that this will happen to those guys you are mentioning, but I would wait to evaluate them as pro prospects until they have played in college. I've seen it too many times before.

It is REALLY early to say much about highschool kids that haven't even played their senior year yet.
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Post#267 » by SMH » Tue Nov 3, 2015 5:56 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
ImChillin01 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
I think it would be worth it to be bad for one more year to get one of the top 5-7 guys in 17. And people say that 17 is the better draft class because the Sophomores were clearly better than the Juniors.

I dont think it'll be worth it at all. 76ers have Kings pick that could end up in top 5-8. Unless theres generational talent in 2017 draft class, then I dont see point. Get top 3 pick to hurt the development of team to get who? Harry Giles but already have Noel, Okafor, Embiid, Saric. Josh Jackson or Jayson Tatum? Could potentially draft Simmons, Ingram, Brown. Now I know draft is loaded with PGs, could be deepest PG class since 09. Smith, Fox, Fultz, Nitikila & Thorton and maybe 76ers find their PG with their own pick at #8-12. But 76ers could find PG in next year class with four 1sts.

I rather see team develop and let pieces fall where it may


And I think there is generational talent in the 17 draft. Josh Jackson is a more skilled Andrew Wiggins but the dude has a killer mentality. The gap between Jayson Tatum and say Simmons or Ingram is huge. The gap between Dunn and say Dennis Smith jr is massive. Again Skal or Simmons wouldn't go top 5 if they went in the 17 draft. There are about 5 truly elite talents in the 17 draft

way way way too early for 2017 draft, even 2016 draft, this time last year Jah was first pick, KAT was late lotto, Dangelo was late 1st round, Stanley Johnson was top 3 pick.. Gotta see how these guys do in college before anything.
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Post#268 » by BullyKing » Thu Nov 5, 2015 4:24 pm

More like 2017 draft but Harry Giles tore his ACL (second time for him but different knee). Cue the welcome to the Sixers jokes.
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Post#269 » by Agnostifarian » Fri Nov 6, 2015 12:17 am

I can't wait to see some of these freshmen play! I have no preconceptions about who the top 5 "should" be. I think Murray is a lot like Russell in skill and bbiq but Murray looks stronger and more athletic. Murray and Sauce would make a nice backcourt. I'd like Ingram at the SF. I'm pretty sure I want to be in Vegas for Summer League.
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Post#270 » by SparksFly87 » Fri Nov 6, 2015 1:49 am

Murray and Ingram are the must targets in this draft for us . We must do whatever it takes to get them both. They are absolute perfect fits for our team.
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Post#271 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Nov 6, 2015 8:37 am

SparksFly87 wrote:Murray and Ingram are the must targets in this draft for us . We must do whatever it takes to get them both. They are absolute perfect fits for our team.


I agree 100% I have some doubts on Murray long term potential, but the dude can score. Add in Ingram who also can flat out score (he also may have the biggest upside out of anyone in the draft) and you guys would have a great core. Simmons and Skal may rank higher on draft boards, but they don't fit as well as Murray and Ingram. If you guys can get those two, the future will be looking very very bright
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Post#272 » by Agnostifarian » Fri Nov 6, 2015 11:26 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
SparksFly87 wrote:Murray and Ingram are the must targets in this draft for us . We must do whatever it takes to get them both. They are absolute perfect fits for our team.


I agree 100% I have some doubts on Murray long term potential, but the dude can score. Add in Ingram who also can flat out score (he also may have the biggest upside out of anyone in the draft) and you guys would have a great core. Simmons and Skal may rank higher on draft boards, but they don't fit as well as Murray and Ingram. If you guys can get those two, the future will be looking very very bright


I'd like to welcome the Duke fan to the board. I will credit your presence to Jah. Before long, I hope to see Jah recruiting other duke followers like Jabari Parker, Justice Winslow, etc. That will be a few years down the road but it could happen one day.
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Post#273 » by Wilfried » Fri Nov 6, 2015 2:52 pm

The draft seems very PF and Center-heav.

Just what we don't need! :banghead:
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Post#274 » by eagereyez » Fri Nov 6, 2015 3:07 pm

Just imagine a SL team rolling out Murray/Ingram/Saric/Embiid. Lol. In all honesty that lineup could potentially be better than the current starters.
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Post#275 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Nov 6, 2015 3:08 pm

Wilfried wrote:The draft seems very PF and Center-heav.

Just what we don't need! :banghead:


There are enough wing players and guards. I do like Dargan Bender though. He's a PF lol. He's like Porzingis but a better defender.
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Post#276 » by dbodner » Fri Nov 6, 2015 3:42 pm

SMH wrote:way way way too early for 2017 draft, even 2016 draft, this time last year Jah was first pick, KAT was late lotto, Dangelo was late 1st round, Stanley Johnson was top 3 pick.. Gotta see how these guys do in college before anything.


Say what? We had KAT as the #3 pick before he ever played a game for Kentucky. He was the #4 pick dating back to april of his senior year of high school.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Karl-Towns-61831/mock-draft-history/

D'Angelo Russell also wasn't a "late first round pick". He was 13th.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/D-Angelo-Russell-7175/mock-draft-history/

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Post#277 » by snoopdogg88 » Fri Nov 6, 2015 4:25 pm

it's a bit concerning. (it's obviously super early) but 2016 doesn't look like a particularly good/deep draft at first glance
it's nice we potentially have all these picks, but if it's a weak draft then....meh

Simmons is the clear cut #1. the rest will fall into place.
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Post#278 » by Unbreakable99 » Fri Nov 6, 2015 4:51 pm

snoopdogg88 wrote:it's a bit concerning. (it's obviously super early) but 2016 doesn't look like a particularly good/deep draft at first glance
it's nice we potentially have all these picks, but if it's a weak draft then....meh

Simmons is the clear cut #1. the rest will fall into place.


Disagree. Going into the season there are about the same number of high end players as last year and more than 2014 in my opinion.

I haven't watched any games yet but based off highlights and projections I think these players can be very good.

Simmons
Ingram
Brown
Bender
Skal
Murray
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Post#279 » by Agnostifarian » Fri Nov 6, 2015 6:03 pm

snoopdogg88 wrote:it's a bit concerning. (it's obviously super early) but 2016 doesn't look like a particularly good/deep draft at first glance
it's nice we potentially have all these picks, but if it's a weak draft then....meh

Simmons is the clear cut #1. the rest will fall into place.


Not to quibble... what makes him "clear cut" in your opinion?
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Post#280 » by Kobblehead » Fri Nov 6, 2015 6:16 pm

Can we just lock this thread and start a new one once the college season starts? This thread is loaded with definitive opinions and absolutes and we haven't even seen them on the floor yet.

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