Joel Embiid -- The Process is now Live

[Ericb5]

Apparently Embiid had a CT scan on Monday and the foot looked great.

That's the kind of news that I have been waiting for.


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[XDevilBoiX]

Apparently Embiid had a CT scan on Monday and the foot looked great.

That's the kind of news that I have been waiting for.


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Where you read that?

[Ericb5]

Apparently Embiid had a CT scan on Monday and the foot looked great.

That's the kind of news that I have been waiting for.


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Where you read that?

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2016/11/sixers-notes-embiid-okafor-noel-simmons.html

I should have posted the link yesterday, but I was on my phone and too lazy.

[76ers]

That's fantastic news. He still scares me with how much he falls down, but might as well get used to it.

[CoreyGallagher]

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[Los5782]

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[Sixerscan]

First game with 0 turnovers! Oh and that whole 25/10/4 plus having a positive +/- in a game his team lost by 17 thing.

[TTP]

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[Unbreakable99]

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I love all the excuses for why Okafor looked so bad last year. Some said it was because he had bad teammates. Lol. Embiid is playing with many of the same players this year and is light years better. Okafor still is bad this year. He's even playing on the second unit which is supposed to be against lesser talent. Remember las year some people said other said other players on the team have better +/- than Okafor because they were on the second unit and going up against lesser talent? Yeah. Now that Okafor is on the second unit you don't hear that excuse anymore.

[CoreyGallagher]

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I love all the excuses for why Okafor looked so bad last year. Some said it was because he had bad teammates. Lol. Embiid is playing with many of the same players this year and is light years better. Okafor still is bad this year. He's even playing on the second unit which is supposed to be against lesser talent. Remember las year some people said other said other players on the team have better +/- than Okafor because they were on the second unit and going up against lesser talent? Yeah. Now that Okafor is on the second unit you don't hear that excuse anymore.

It hasn't simply been Embiid playing against starters then Okafor exclusively playing against the backups due to minute restrictions. Embiid had usually been playing in 4 minute increments until last night, that means both of them were playing against starters and bench players throughout the games, Okafor would usually even start the second halves. That's not an indictment of what Embiid is capable of as it's apparent, just a statement of fact.

I think the differentials are a matter of comparing young/bad defenders in Okafor and Holmes with a bad team defense to two generational defenders in Embiid and Noel. Okafor, as well as most others, are not players that can anchor/elevate a defense, but could still be effective w/ some help on defense, imo.

It's also strange to me that most will admit how bad our perimeter defense is and defenders are individually in just about every game thread, yet it's not viewed as a cause for our defensive lapses while Okafor is usually specifically criticized and viewed as the only player conversely responsible. Okafor's defensive rating this season, so with him, is 109.6 in 387 minutes, without him it's 104.5. With Holmes our defensive rating is 112.5 in 235 minutes, without him it's 104.6.

What we have had and what Embiid and Noel provide on defense isn't normal, yet some hold all of our bigs to their standard. Compare their impact to other bigs from Okafor's and Holmes draft class, as well - Timberwolves defensive rating with Towns 111.6, without him it's 93.3. The Knicks DRtg with Porzingis is 109.3, without him it's 104.6. Eerily similar and when they're coming off the court an Embiid or Noel isn't going onto it.

[TTP]

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I love all the excuses for why Okafor looked so bad last year. Some said it was because he had bad teammates. Lol. Embiid is playing with many of the same players this year and is light years better. Okafor still is bad this year. He's even playing on the second unit which is supposed to be against lesser talent. Remember las year some people said other said other players on the team have better +/- than Okafor because they were on the second unit and going up against lesser talent? Yeah. Now that Okafor is on the second unit you don't hear that excuse anymore.

It hasn't simply been Embiid playing against starters then Okafor exclusively playing against the backups due to minute restrictions. Embiid had usually been playing in 4 minute increments until last night, that means both of them were playing against starters and bench players throughout the games, Okafor would usually even start the second halves. That's not an indictment of what Embiid is capable of as it's apparent, just a statement of fact.

I think the differentials are a matter of comparing young/bad defenders in Okafor and Holmes with a bad team defense to two generational defenders in Embiid and Noel. Okafor, as well as most others, are not players that can anchor/elevate a defense, but could still be effective w/ some help on defense, imo.

It's also strange to me that most will admit how bad our perimeter defense is and defenders are individually in just about every game thread, yet it's not viewed as a cause for our defensive lapses while Okafor is usually specifically criticized and viewed as the only player conversely responsible. Okafor's defensive rating this season, so with him, is 109.6 in 387 minutes, without him it's 104.5. With Holmes our defensive rating is 112.5 in 235 minutes, without him it's 104.6.

What we have had and what Embiid and Noel provide on defense isn't normal, yet some hold all of our bigs to their standard. Compare their impact to other bigs from Okafor's and Holmes draft class, as well - Timberwolves defensive rating with Towns 111.6, without him it's 93.3. The Knicks DRtg with Porzingis is 109.3, without him it's 104.6. Eerily similar and when they're coming off the court an Embiid or Noel isn't going onto it.

Except those guys are crushing on offense and Okafor has been garbage offensively.

[CoreyGallagher]

Except those guys are crushing on offense and Okafor has been garbage offensively.

Yeah, I was referring to specifically their defense as that's what I typically read about in game threads and on twitter and that's what the tweet mentioned.

[LloydFree]

After watching the 76ers have the 12th best defense in 2015, with this coach, Noel at Center and a bunch of "D-leaguer" teammates and having the 30th ranked defense in 2016, with this coach, Okafor at Center and a bunch of "D-leaguer teammates", now we have this:

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It is stupifying that we have to still read these ridiculous comments and excuses about Okafor's effect on this team's defense. "It's the perimeter players fault..." "No, it's the coaches fault..." "No, he was terrible, but the team was almost as terrible when he was on the DL..."
It's to the point it's not even irritating to read anymore. I'm embarrassed for the guys that feel the need to come up with this stuff.

[Unbreakable99]

After watching the 76ers have the 12th best defense in 2015, with this coach, Noel at Center and a bunch of "D-leaguer" teammates and having the 30th ranked defense in 2016, with this coach, Okafor at Center and a bunch of "D-leaguer teammates", now we have this:

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It is stupifying that we have to still read these ridiculous comments and excuses about Okafor's effect on this team's defense. "It's the perimeter players fault..." "No, it's the coaches fault..." "No, he was terrible, but the team was almost as terrible when he was on the DL..."
It's to the point it's not even irritating to read anymore. I'm embarrassed for the guys that feel the need to come up with this stuff.

I take it you're not a Prokafor lol.

[CoreyGallagher]

After watching the 76ers have the 12th best defense in 2015, with this coach, Noel at Center and a bunch of "D-leaguer" teammates and having the 30th ranked defense in 2016, with this coach, Okafor at Center and a bunch of "D-leaguer teammates", now we have this

Team was much worse with only Noel in 2016 (104.0 DRtg) than it was with only Noel in 2015 (100.4). Explain that to me since nothing else seemed to change - according to you, that is.

I'm not even blaming Noel for it, it's just that a lot did actually change besides just drafting Okafor.

It is stupifying that we have to still read these ridiculous comments and excuses about Okafor's effect on this team's defense. "It's the perimeter players fault..." "No, it's the coaches fault..." "No, he was terrible, but the team was almost as terrible when he was on the DL..."
It's to the point it's not even irritating to read anymore. I'm embarrassed for the guys that feel the need to come up with this stuff.

You don't reply to posts specifically so you can vaguely refer to and in some cases distort what was actually said. That is irritating.

[Ericb5]

I don't see any surprises, nor do I see anyone praising Okafor's defense. He is ok at some defensive things, and he has improved a bit, but he is still a poor defender.

On the flip side, Embiid is one of the best defenders in the league.



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[Embiid P]

IDK if someone mentioned this already but what is the minimum number of games that Embiid has to play this season in order to be eligible for ROY consideration? My fear is that he'll miss too many games which would disqualify him.

[CoreyGallagher]

IDK if someone mentioned this already but what is the minimum number of games that Embiid has to play this season in order to be eligible for ROY consideration?

He only has to step on the court to be eligible.

[Embiid P]

IDK if someone mentioned this already but what is the minimum number of games that Embiid has to play this season in order to be eligible for ROY consideration?

He only has to step on the court to be eligible.

I hear you but doesn't he have to have a minimum amount of shots taken, points, rebounds, blocks, etc. to be considered?

[CoreyGallagher]

IDK if someone mentioned this already but what is the minimum number of games that Embiid has to play this season in order to be eligible for ROY consideration?

He only has to step on the court to be eligible.

I hear you but doesn't he have to have a minimum amount of shots taken, points, rebounds, blocks, etc. to be considered?

Perhaps to typically be considered, but that's not the case currently since this draft class has been unprecedentedly awful to this point.

The least amount of minutes a winner has played in per game was 29.1, that was Mike Miller, however he had played in all 82 games that season. The fewest amount of games played in was by Patrick Ewing and Vince Carter, they each played in 50, but averaged 35 mpg, Kyrie played in 51 while averaging 30.5 mpg.

However, consider that nobody else comes close to points, rebounds, assists, blocks, etc. of past winners when considering positional expectations.