2018 Pick Watch (Philly, LAL 1 or 6-30, etc)

[Att]

The first pick of the draft should be the best player. If you're trading up and in that process lose a valuable asset, that means you firmly believe it. If he ends up being just a very nice player, you lost the trade, big time.

lmao at you ignoring the post of you getting obliterated.

I noticed that as well.

You mean about the Lakers?
They did an amazing tank job. I admit I didn't expect that.
Doesn't mean I'm wrong about the other stuff, though.

[smittybanton]

Lakers sign Briante Weber. I like Weber. Stopper. As good as he will be all around (eventually), Lonzo is going to get torched on one-on-one defense until he gets stronger. Clarkson's d is not dope either.

[OT: Trade was not a disaster. Nor was it an efficient use of assets. Paid a lot for fit, when there was equal talent available. The fact that Fultz wants to play off the ball matters (versus Ball, Fox or DSJ). He is good enough that the trade will be forgotten/forgiven over time. At least by me. Nobody disses the Penny for Chris Webber trade either way, and that cost three first round draft picks to move from #3 to #1... Part of a pattern though.]

[OT2: Now that he's a Celtic, eff Jayson Tatum! Jonah Bolden ripped him clean then went coast to coast and finished over Jaylen Brown, kneeing him in the thigh on the layup, sending him to the locker room. Seeing that live made the whole trip worth it.]

[OT3: Korkmaz >>>>> TLC. Korkmaz, Bolden and Pasecniks. Also part of BC's patterns. Solid.]

[HotelVitale]

Not gonna lie, that Porter-Bagley-Ayton-Doncic top 4 has got me tense, real salty to give a pick to the Celts that's used on one of them. So I'm now on the go-Lakers-go tip again. Great.

[Chris76]

Lakers sign Briante Weber. I like Weber. Stopper. As good as he will be all around (eventually), Lonzo is going to get torched on one-on-one defense until he gets stronger. Clarkson's d is not dope either.

[OT: Trade was not a disaster. Nor was it an efficient use of assets. Paid a lot for fit, when there was equal talent available. The fact that Fultz wants to play off the ball matters (versus Ball, Fox or DSJ). He is good enough that the trade will be forgotten/forgiven over time. At least by me. Nobody disses the Penny for Chris Webber trade either way, and that cost three first round draft picks to move from #3 to #1... Part of a pattern though.]

[OT2: Now that he's a Celtic, eff Jayson Tatum! Jonah Bolden ripped him clean then went coast to coast and finished over Jaylen Brown, kneeing him in the thigh on the layup, sending him to the locker room. Seeing that live made the whole trip worth it.]

[OT3: Korkmaz >>>>> TLC. Korkmaz, Bolden and Pasecniks. Also part of BC's patterns. Solid.]

Good summary. Fultz's play making skills should be very good and he looks to be a sharp shooter with range. A unique skill set to add to our young prospects. Anyway, a few 30pt games more people will start liking him.

Korkmaz is a very promising prospect. He looks to have solid fundamentals and a high bb IQ. His rotations and team defense looked good. A 6'8 SG with good range would be very valuable.

TLC, Stauskus, and Korkmaz should provide depth at the SG spot. It will be beneficial having good guards for a change.

[Mrcrockpots]

I know its way too early, but it's a little concerning thinking about Ayton, Bamba, Bagley or Porter on the Celtics next year. Watched a video clip of Bamba playing for Texas yesterday. Looks great.

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[Unbreakable99]

I know its way too early, but it's a little concerning thinking about Ayton, Bamba, Bagley or Porter on the Celtics next year. Watched a video clip of Bamba playing for Texas yesterday. Looks great.

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Blame BC for allowing Ainge to get an extra pick if the Lakers finish 2-5. Ridiculous. We could have had Fultz at 3 and still have that Lakers pick no matter what. We just have to hope the Nets somehow do something this year and finish outside the top 8. And we have to hope that Lakers pick doesn't land from 2-5.

[Wilfried]

Or we just prepare for worst case

Porter + Bagley/Ayton (don't see Bamba as potential top 2 pick).

That gives them Tatum + Brown + Porter + Ayton (probably, because they need a big) as their core.

Would give nice future match-ups against our core of Fultz + Simmons + Embiid + Saric.

As long as Embiid is healthy, we have the advantage!

[the_process]

Fultz would've been gone at 2 had Boston passed on him. So then BC either takes Lonzo or Josh Jackson.

I know there are plenty on the board who would've been way happier with that, but I'll take Fultz along with the chance that the Laker pick doesn't convey 8 days a week.

[Unbreakable99]

Fultz would've been gone at 2 had Boston passed on him. So then BC either takes Lonzo or Josh Jackson.

I know there are plenty on the board who would've been way happier with that, but I'll take Fultz along with the chance that the Laker pick doesn't convey 8 days a week.

The Lakers were not going to take Fultz over Ball. Come on.

[Mrcrockpots]

From what it seems like- only 2 of the projected top 10 players in the 2018 draft are guards and wings. Could you imagine sitting at 4 or 5, praying no one takes one of Doncic/Sexton, and we get stuck with taking another big man? I'm good with Fultz.

[Wilfried]

Fultz would've been gone at 2 had Boston passed on him. So then BC either takes Lonzo or Josh Jackson.

I know there are plenty on the board who would've been way happier with that, but I'll take Fultz along with the chance that the Laker pick doesn't convey 8 days a week.

Ainge really would not have drafted anyone besides Fultz at #1

He's a gambler, but he's not insane.

[europeanfan]

Only 2 players feel really complementary to the sixers big 3 : Bridges and Doncic. But at this moment it feels like there's a clear path to getting Doncic who is the better player.

He's starting at 4 on draftexpress mock, mostly around 4-5 on other mocks, meaning if they get 1 they can easily trade down and if they get 6-8 it shouldn't be impossible to trade up.

Doncic can't really defend but having 3 players with PG skills would be insane offensively (if the defense proves to be ok with Reddick that would be a good sign that Doncic can be a great fit long term).

Also if they want to make a real run in the POs next year starting a rookie may not be in the cards, Doncic would be great in the Ginobili role to start his career. Obviously the issue is his foot speed on defense but if he projected to be a good defender he would go number 1.

[Eyeamok]

Fultz would've been gone at 2 had Boston passed on him. So then BC either takes Lonzo or Josh Jackson.

I know there are plenty on the board who would've been way happier with that, but I'll take Fultz along with the chance that the Laker pick doesn't convey 8 days a week.

The Lakers were not going to take Fultz over Ball. Come on.

So you really believe Boston would have taken Tatum at #1?

[Unbreakable99]

Fultz would've been gone at 2 had Boston passed on him. So then BC either takes Lonzo or Josh Jackson.

I know there are plenty on the board who would've been way happier with that, but I'll take Fultz along with the chance that the Laker pick doesn't convey 8 days a week.

The Lakers were not going to take Fultz over Ball. Come on.

So you really believe Boston would have taken Tatum at #1?

Yes. It was clear Ainge did not value Fultz as the top player. It was clear he didn't want him at 1. That's why he traded. He would not have traded out of the top spot if Ben Simmons or Karl Towns was sitting at one. He would not have traded out if Kyrie was sitting at one. BC should have called his bluff and made Ainge make a pick and BC just takes whoever is left at 3. Do you honestly believe the Lakers would have taken Fultz over Ball if Fultz was there at 2?

[Mrcrockpots]

Can't wait for Tatum to play 15 minutes per game with under 40% shooting and terrible defense.

[Unbreakable99]

Can't wait for Tatum to play 15 minutes per game with under 40% shooting and terrible defense.

That's pretty unlikely. He plays good defense. I think he will be pretty good. He has already improved his distance on shots so he should be a decent 3 point shooter. But even if he does look like trash I don't care. I mean I would love that but we still gave Ainge another lottery ball to get Ayton or Bamba or Doncic or Bagley or Porter Jr. That trade still makes my blood boil.

[Mrcrockpots]

Can't wait for Tatum to play 15 minutes per game with under 40% shooting and terrible defense.

That's pretty unlikely. He plays good defense. I think he will be pretty good. He has already improved his distance on shots so he should be a decent 3 point shooter. But even if he does look like trash I don't care. I mean I would love that but we still gave Ainge another lottery ball to get Ayton or Bamba or Doncic or Bagley or Porter Jr. That trade still makes my blood boil.

Yea man I guess we should just agree to disagree on that one. I loved the trade.

Lets see how it plays out first. I wasn't impressed with Porter from what I saw. Doncic is crafty but will it translate to the NBA? Bamba looks massive out there but is pretty raw. Bagley is raw as well. Long way to go til the nba draft.

How would you rank that top 4? I think I'd go 1) Bamba 2) Porter 3) Doncic 4) Bagley

[Unbreakable99]

Can't wait for Tatum to play 15 minutes per game with under 40% shooting and terrible defense.

That's pretty unlikely. He plays good defense. I think he will be pretty good. He has already improved his distance on shots so he should be a decent 3 point shooter. But even if he does look like trash I don't care. I mean I would love that but we still gave Ainge another lottery ball to get Ayton or Bamba or Doncic or Bagley or Porter Jr. That trade still makes my blood boil.

Yea man I guess we should just agree to disagree on that one. I loved the trade.

Lets see how it plays out first. I wasn't impressed with Porter from what I saw. Doncic is crafty but will it translate to the NBA? Bamba looks massive out there but is pretty raw. Bagley is raw as well. Long way to go til the nba draft.

How would you rank that top 4? I think I'd go 1) Bamba 2) Porter 3) Doncic 4) Bagley

I have no clue. I have to watch them play some college games first. I don't care what they did in high school. I know they are highly sought after but I need to see how they look on a bigger stage against better players.

[Ericb5]

From what it seems like- only 2 of the projected top 10 players in the 2018 draft are guards and wings. Could you imagine sitting at 4 or 5, praying no one takes one of Doncic/Sexton, and we get stuck with taking another big man? I'm good with Fultz.

I think that we treat the Lakers pick if we get it, as either a pure long term talent acquisition, or we think of it as trade bait.

With a little luck with our big 3, the actual player selected with the Lakers pick won't be expected to help us on the court. You just take BPA, and move on.


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[Mrcrockpots]

That's pretty unlikely. He plays good defense. I think he will be pretty good. He has already improved his distance on shots so he should be a decent 3 point shooter. But even if he does look like trash I don't care. I mean I would love that but we still gave Ainge another lottery ball to get Ayton or Bamba or Doncic or Bagley or Porter Jr. That trade still makes my blood boil.

Yea man I guess we should just agree to disagree on that one. I loved the trade.

Lets see how it plays out first. I wasn't impressed with Porter from what I saw. Doncic is crafty but will it translate to the NBA? Bamba looks massive out there but is pretty raw. Bagley is raw as well. Long way to go til the nba draft.

How would you rank that top 4? I think I'd go 1) Bamba 2) Porter 3) Doncic 4) Bagley

I have no clue. I have to watch them play some college games first. I don't care what they did in high school. I know they are highly sought after but I need to see how they look on a bigger stage against better players.

Exactly. College bball is my fav sport. The nba big man is definitely on its comeback tour.